Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

hue

(4,949 posts)
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 07:52 PM Apr 2014

Koch Brothers' New Obamacare Attack: An Arkansas Trucker Is Confused

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/01/arkansas-senate-koch-brothers_n_5070330.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

Jerry's ObamaCare Story by Americans For Prosperity





After a number of ads run by the Koch brothers-backed Americans for Prosperity have been hammered for making false charges against Obamacare, the outfit has a new spot in Arkansas that offers a less-daring claim: A truck driver is confused about his insurance.

"It's like living in a haze," says Jerry Buckley in the ad, which AFP will spend $540,000 to run. "You don't know whether you're going to have insurance or whether you're going to be able to afford your insurance. It was taken away from us. Or it was given back to us," says Buckley, adding in apparent frustration, "We don't know what it's been now."
17 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Koch Brothers' New Obamacare Attack: An Arkansas Trucker Is Confused (Original Post) hue Apr 2014 OP
That is the dumbest ad I've ever seen. louis-t Apr 2014 #1
Obama isn't doing anything to help us with this. Is he going to do anything in 4 years? Or 2 years?" DesertDiamond Apr 2014 #2
Arkansas has their own exchange. louis-t Apr 2014 #4
... WhoIsNumberNone Apr 2014 #3
Ackshully.... louis-t Apr 2014 #5
You are telling me that everyone in the household has to have a commercial daybranch Apr 2014 #6
I signed up for Obamacare, it wasn't confusing at all. louis-t Apr 2014 #13
Awesome..... cynzke Apr 2014 #7
That's actually a good point- KrazyinKS Apr 2014 #8
They must read. maddiemom Apr 2014 #11
Disagree Grins Apr 2014 #10
Comedy Gold. They_Live Apr 2014 #9
Is this the latest from the guys that did spinal tap? Theyletmeeatcake2 Apr 2014 #14
Wonder how much ol' Jerry and his wife got paid Plucketeer Apr 2014 #12
Or maybe he was just too dumb to spend 30 minutes to figure it out himself LynneSin Apr 2014 #15
I'm a trucker, thinking is hard! sherihah Apr 2014 #16
Kicking to watch later! arcane1 Apr 2014 #17

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
1. That is the dumbest ad I've ever seen.
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 07:56 PM
Apr 2014

"It's confusing so I'm confused about not knowing whether to be confused or not!1!!1!!"

JEEZ!

DesertDiamond

(1,616 posts)
2. Obama isn't doing anything to help us with this. Is he going to do anything in 4 years? Or 2 years?"
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 07:57 PM
Apr 2014

Um, dunno. He won't be president anymore by then.

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
4. Arkansas has their own exchange.
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 08:07 PM
Apr 2014

He should be calling his repug governor's office for help. Oh, wait.....

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
6. You are telling me that everyone in the household has to have a commercial
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 07:12 AM
Apr 2014

And what is this bull that driving a truck is a lot like farming. Could they not find a farmer to lie for them? Boy, the Koch brothers and/or Karl Rove sure must be having a hard time finding real people, if these are even real and not actors. Obama care is confusing, hell my Government supported Blue Cross and Blue Shield is confusing but a lot less so since Obamacare came in.
While I am not on it, I think the Medicaid expansion may turn out to be the most important part of Obamacare for the country. It makes me proud that the Democrats implemented a program which helps the poor and the working man.

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
13. I signed up for Obamacare, it wasn't confusing at all.
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 11:18 AM
Apr 2014

Took me about 25 minutes to choose a plan and sign up for it online. I got a letter in the mail and sent a check. Done. The hardest thing about it was cancelling my BCBS plan. They tried to force me into a more expensive plan. I had to call on the phone to cancel. They wouldn't let me do it online. I called at least 4 times and a recording told me wait times were over an hour and then I was hung up on. I finally got it cancelled but BCBS was still billing me. I just ignored them and finally they went away.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
7. Awesome.....
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 08:04 AM
Apr 2014

Lets show that the people we choose are ignorant about insurance....PERIOD.

Worked for an insurance company for eleven years. Customers expect to be spoon fed info, rather that look for it in the policy booklets. Yes, its tedious to have to open a booklet and READ.

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
8. That's actually a good point-
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 08:27 AM
Apr 2014

Can these people read? Or are they just too lazy to do any research, they just let the AFP spoon feed them info?

Grins

(7,228 posts)
10. Disagree
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:08 AM
Apr 2014

They need to be "spoon fed" because those information booklets - all written by lawyers - are so damned difficult to find anything!

Right now I have three new coverages; my dental plan "information" booklet is 58 pages long, the drug plan is 47 pages (plus attachments), and my medical plan is so long it takes up several pages on its website; all of them filled with preferred this or that or not, in network, out of network, per-approved, exclusions, generics, non-generics, etc., etc. All those packets are written by lawyers to protect the insurer's butt, while I just want quick information to cover mine!

Years ago there was an effort by companies across the board to make the fine print more readable. Looks like that has passed us by.

That said - at the least - the guy in the ad should know the most basic issue - Do I have insurance?

They_Live

(3,240 posts)
9. Comedy Gold.
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 09:27 AM
Apr 2014

Are these people just now starting to ask questions? Were they happy with soaring premiums rates and limited coverage prior to any reform? Insurance rates have always been climbing and out of our control. Hopefully this will begin to change.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
12. Wonder how much ol' Jerry and his wife got paid
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 11:05 AM
Apr 2014

to make these lie-mercials? I lived in Little Rock for a few months. Most of the folks there didn't seem this gullible to me!

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
15. Or maybe he was just too dumb to spend 30 minutes to figure it out himself
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 03:02 PM
Apr 2014

That's the message I got from this ad.

They found some actor to sound like a red-state no-nothing whose all 'I'm so confused no one is telling me anything'.

Why are the Koch brothers spending billions of dollars to fight this. That seems like a waste of their money.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Video & Multimedia»Koch Brothers' New Obamac...