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lees1975

(3,866 posts)
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 01:44 AM Dec 2022

Don't miss the significance of President Zelenskyy's visit to the US like most Republicans did.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2022/12/who-believes-in-american-idealism-and.html

Republican reaction to this visit, which I think was very disturbing and very telling about their position on democracy, individual freedom and the constitution, is going to hurt them politically, far more than they think or now realize.

So I'm having trouble understanding the Republican party's cool response and subtle opposition to providing assistance to help Ukrainians preserve their national sovereignty, democracy and freedom against Russia, one of the world's perpetual enemies of individual freedom and democratic reform, led by one of the most virulent opponents of that kind of idealism. This is the political party that was willing to bankrupt the United States treasury to preserve what passed for democracy in South Vietnam, that approved meddling in the internal affairs of Nicaragua to prop up a dictator because he wasn't a Marxist, though he was far from a freedom loving idealist. This was the party that spent trillions trying to impose democratic reforms on a divided, hostile Iraq, a country created by British imperial interference after World War I, and a culture hostile to the kind of equality required to have democratic values in a government.

And it was the party that invested trillions of dollars in "nation building" in Afghanistan, in yet another country hostile to democratic values and idealism and incapable of sustaining either a democratically elected government or a military force capable of defending it. And in every case, the motivation behind American involvement in every single one of those places, even Nicaragua, was to get a step ahead of the Russians, and preserve a military and political advantage against them. This was particularly intense in the days when Russia was a communist country, but it is still a foreign relations priority now.

My hope is that all of this adds up to their stunning defeat in a massive landslide for Democrats in 2024.

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Don't miss the significance of President Zelenskyy's visit to the US like most Republicans did. (Original Post) lees1975 Dec 2022 OP
I doubt this will be an issue in 2024. Haggard Celine Dec 2022 #1
What sad truths you tell. Depressing, but realistic. nt Biophilic Dec 2022 #2
Always short-term thinking. calimary Dec 2022 #3
I'm thinking all those retired military who fought for democracy may not be happy with the GOP. ratchiweenie Dec 2022 #4

Haggard Celine

(16,847 posts)
1. I doubt this will be an issue in 2024.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 02:06 AM
Dec 2022

Americans can have very short memories. I don't think most will even remember this. I think that if Ukraine is able to end this war on their terms, it will be good for Biden, but there will be other issues that people will be stirred up over by then. And don't forget the ever-important price of gas.

calimary

(81,344 posts)
3. Always short-term thinking.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 12:41 PM
Dec 2022

Few seem interested in anything like long-range planning or strategy. It’s gotta be instant relief. The kind we’ve long heard and known about as “fast, fast, fast!”

ratchiweenie

(7,754 posts)
4. I'm thinking all those retired military who fought for democracy may not be happy with the GOP.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 01:55 PM
Dec 2022

Let's hope it's enough disgust to make them vote Dem or not vote at all.

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