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appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 08:13 PM Sep 2022

Iranian Woman Dies After Beating By 'Morality Police' over Hijab Law, Crackdown on Womens' Dress

- The Guardian, Sept.16, 2022. Rights & Freedom, IRAN. - Mahsa Amini, a 22-year-old Kurd, dies after ‘violent arrest’ for infringing hijab rules amid Iranian crackdown on women’s dress. -

A 22-year-old woman has died in an Iranian hospital days after being detained by the regime’s morality police for allegedly not complying with the country’s hijab regulations.Mahsa Amini was travelling with her family from Iran’s western province of Kurdistan to the capital, Tehran, to visit relatives when she was reportedly arrested for failing to meet the country’s strict rules on women’s dress.

Witnesses reported that Amini was beaten in the police van, an allegation the police deny.

The news comes weeks after Iran’s hardline president, Ebrahim Raisi, ordered a crackdown on women’s rights and called for stricter enforcement of the country’s mandatory dress code, which has required all women to wear the hijab head-covering since the 1979 Islamic revolution. Amini’s family were notified that she had been taken to hospital hours after her arrest. She was transferred to an intensive-care unit at Kasra hospital.

According to Hrana, an Iranian human rights organisation, Amini’s family were told during her arrest that she would be released after a “re-education session”.

The police later said that Amini had suffered a heart attack. Amini’s family disputed this, however, and said she was healthy and had not been experiencing any health problems. Amini was in a coma after arriving at the hospital, her family said, adding that they were told by hospital staff that she was brain dead. Photographs of Amini lying in the hospital bed in a coma with bandages around her head and breathing tubes have circulated on social media.

Her hospitalisation and death drew condemnation from Iranian celebrities and politicians. Mahmoud Sadeghi, a reformist politician and former MP, called on the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, to speak out over Amini’s case. “What does the supreme leader, who rightfully denounced US police over the death of George Floyd, say about the Iranian police’s treatment of Mahsa Amini?” Sadeghi tweeted on Friday...
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/sep/16/iranian-woman-dies-after-being-beaten-by-morality-police-over-hijab-law

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Iranian Woman Dies After Beating By 'Morality Police' over Hijab Law, Crackdown on Womens' Dress (Original Post) appalachiablue Sep 2022 OP
Men not able to regulate their own sexual impulses so blame women. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #1
The typical Republican male is not a whole lot different than their Islamic brethren OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #3
The American variation on the theme is that men here love to see women scantily attired. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #4
amen appalachiablue Sep 2022 #6
++ More, BBC: 'morality police' aka 'Guidance Patrols,' # 'Murder Patrols' appalachiablue Sep 2022 #5
Do Iranian men tolerate being told what to wear? Or murdered for not wearing the correct clothing? Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #8
Oh hell no.. scarletlib Sep 2022 #15
I know, that is what makes me so mad. The men are comfortable. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #18
Ahhh, religion at it's best Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #2
Yup, there it is. appalachiablue Sep 2022 #7
It has nothing to do with religion. Males use any excuse to subjugate women. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #9
Not all males Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #10
Females have not been known to subjugate large groups of males for thousands of years Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #12
"Subjugated classes .. develop a trauma bond .." stopdiggin Sep 2022 #14
Societal expectations and conditioning. scarletlib Sep 2022 #16
I wouldn't argue that at all stopdiggin Sep 2022 #22
If only a small group of men subjugate women, why do the other males let it happen? Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #13
"What... say about the Iranian police's treatment of Mahsa Amini?" Sadeghi tweeted on Friday... keithbvadu2 Sep 2022 #11
Kick dalton99a Sep 2022 #17
Thanks, horror and loss of innocent life by a wicked regime. appalachiablue Sep 2022 #21
Mahsa Amini: Women take headscarves off in protest at funeral Eugene Sep 2022 #19
Tx, impt. info on protesters & mourners of this brutal killing, appalachiablue Sep 2022 #20

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
1. Men not able to regulate their own sexual impulses so blame women.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 08:16 PM
Sep 2022

And force women to wear clothing to make them asexual.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
3. The typical Republican male is not a whole lot different than their Islamic brethren
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 08:19 PM
Sep 2022

when it comes to human sexuality.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
4. The American variation on the theme is that men here love to see women scantily attired.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 08:24 PM
Sep 2022

American males love to see the female body, and are fine with it on view in public.

The same issue of subjugation, blame and punishment comes into play once a female gets pregnant.
Then the GOP is the same as the Islamic males.

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
5. ++ More, BBC: 'morality police' aka 'Guidance Patrols,' # 'Murder Patrols'
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 08:56 PM
Sep 2022

- Fury in Iran as young woman dies following morality police arrest, BBC News, Sept. 16, '22.

.. Her death comes in the wake of growing reports of repressive acts against women, including those judged not to be complying with Islamic dress code being barred from entering government offices and banks.

> Many Iranians, including pro-government individuals, are expressing their outrage on social media platforms regarding the very existence of the morality police, also known as Guidance Patrols, and are using hashtags that translate as Murder Patrols.

Videos have emerged on social media appearing to show officers detaining women, dragging them on the ground, and forcefully whisking them away.

Many Iranians blame the Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei, directly. An old speech of his is being reshared on social media in which he justifies the role of the morality police and insists that under Islamic rule, women must be forced to observe the Islamic dress code.

The latest episode will only deepen the divide between a large part of Iran's young and vibrant society and its radical rulers, a rift that seems ever harder to mend. https://www.democraticunderground.com/113814005#post3

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
8. Do Iranian men tolerate being told what to wear? Or murdered for not wearing the correct clothing?
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 08:58 PM
Sep 2022

The subjugation of women must stop.

scarletlib

(3,412 posts)
15. Oh hell no..
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 08:01 AM
Sep 2022

I have been to Disney World many times in the summer. In case you don’t know, the heat is sweltering with high temperatures and humidity.

I can drink water all day and never visit the restroom. I literally sweat it out of my body.

I have frequently seem fundamentalist Muslims there. The men are all in t-shirts and shorts. The women are swathed in black from head to toe. It’s insane.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
18. I know, that is what makes me so mad. The men are comfortable.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 12:47 PM
Sep 2022

Women are smothered in restrictive clothing to designate their subjugated status.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
9. It has nothing to do with religion. Males use any excuse to subjugate women.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 08:59 PM
Sep 2022

It is about power and control.
They use religion as an excuse.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
10. Not all males
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 09:08 PM
Sep 2022

And there are plenty of women who agree with this abusive behavior towards other women.

Without religion would the abusive people have such free reign to abuse? They manipulate and con people into thinking god really wants this.

American theoretical physicist and Nobel laureate, Steven Weinberg once famously said, "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion."

https://m.economictimes.com/opinion/vedanta/two-good-reasons/articleshow/11299834.cms

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
12. Females have not been known to subjugate large groups of males for thousands of years
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 09:23 PM
Sep 2022

of human history.

Women are not the ones who for most of human history have raped, murdered, abused males.

Men do not fear for their lives and well being at the hands of women.

Yes of course, some men do not subjugate and abuse women.

Subjugated classes like women often develop a trauma bond with the abusers.
As a way to feel safe and protected from violence.

Of course, without religion, men would still subjugate women.

Religion is a just a powerful tool, they would find something else if need be.

It is about power and control.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
14. "Subjugated classes .. develop a trauma bond .."
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 10:29 PM
Sep 2022

while undoubtedly true - it doesn't come close to covering the entirety of women on women (or underclass on underclass) abuse. Human beings have been being consistently ugly and abusive to each other - for a lot of different reasons - for a long, long time. There's a more complicated dynamic going on here than can be covered by either religion, or patriarchy

If you don't think women have long been pillars of religious orthodoxy (and still are in fact) ... Catholic church (and all those fervent mothers and grandmothers) ring a bell? And anyone that has ever spent a speck of time in the middle east - will tell you it's every bit as prominent, and women driven, there.

scarletlib

(3,412 posts)
16. Societal expectations and conditioning.
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 08:06 AM
Sep 2022

Much of behavior that we think is normal is a result of the above. It has been carried on for generations as ‘normal’. It is learned behavior and deeply ingrained in society.

What is learned can be unlearned.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
22. I wouldn't argue that at all
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 08:26 PM
Sep 2022

We have also been 'social' animals from the ground up. and social animals often have - 'dynamics' (for lack of a better word) - that are very ingrained and fundamental. And that is not to say that we should allow those forces to define us - or be given free rein or social acceptance.

We've made strides in recognizing certain things (bullying, hazing, physical abuse, mental and emotional abuse, trauma, vulnerable position and status ..) Much of which saw absolute acceptance as the 'natural order of things' a very short time ago. The awareness and recognition that it's not - needs to be reinforced and built upon, through strong social messaging and condemnation.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
13. If only a small group of men subjugate women, why do the other males let it happen?
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 09:49 PM
Sep 2022

Any aren't the innocent males standing up for females?

keithbvadu2

(36,827 posts)
11. "What... say about the Iranian police's treatment of Mahsa Amini?" Sadeghi tweeted on Friday...
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 09:17 PM
Sep 2022

But, that's different.

Eugene

(61,900 posts)
19. Mahsa Amini: Women take headscarves off in protest at funeral
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 07:12 PM
Sep 2022
Mahsa Amini: Women take headscarves off in protest at funeral (BBC)

Protests have broken out at the funeral of a woman who died after being arrested by Iran's morality police.

Mahsa Amini, 22, died on Friday, days after eyewitnesses said she was beaten in a police van in Tehran - allegations denied by police.

Some women at the ceremony reportedly removed their headscarves in protest at the compulsory wearing of hijabs.

Mourners chanted "death to the dictator", with videos showing police later firing on a crowd.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-62940907
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