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(6,052 posts)
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 08:36 PM Aug 2022

LIV Golf lawsuit shatters friendly facade among PGA Tour players. Now it's personal Opinion

If evidence is required of just how fraught emotions have become in the battle between the PGA Tour and LIV Golf — or, more accurately, between Tour players and LIV's patsy plaintiffs — then consider the example of Davis Love III. Throughout his almost 40-year career, Love has been the epitome of a genteel professional golfer, unfailingly polite toward colleagues and so buttoned-down that his idea of a revolutionary act is wearing pants of an off-khaki hue.

Suddenly, the establishment's ideal of a company man has morphed into Davis le rouge, an Ocasio-Cortez in Ralph Lauren pinstripes, encouraging boycotts from a constituency that usually only cares about slow play and high taxes, while insisting that no LIV player will darken the door of his Presidents Cup team room, even if declared eligible by fait of the court.

And he's not even the angriest guy out there.

Finally, we've reached the inevitable point at which the PGA Tour's carefully-constructed tapestry of collegiality comes apart at the seams. That image was always less organic than enforced, with disciplinary actions against players who spoke ill publicly of a fellow member. The intent was to create a commercially attractive impression of golf as being free of jerks, cheats, cokeheads, wife-beaters and other blackguards.

That façade held through the early defections to LIV, as Tour loyalists insisted they'd remain friends with the departed. But in the wake of Wednesday's legal filings by LIV players — one an injunction request that would force three of them into the PGA Tour's FedEx Cup Playoffs, the other an antitrust claim that challenges the Tour's supposed monopoly — the fissures are expanding rapidly.

"Their vision is cherry-picking what events they want to play on the PGA Tour. Obviously, that would be the higher world ranking events and bigger purses," said a visibly irked Billy Horschel. "It's frustrating. They made a decision to leave and they should go follow their employer. I know there are guys a lot more angry and frustrated about it than me."

"What they're doing by going over there is detrimental to our Tour. You can't have it both ways," said Will Zalatoris. "A lot of guys will be pretty frustrated if they're allowed to do both."

"Please stay away in your fantasy land," Joel Dahmen tweeted.

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A very sad time for Golf in America. I still can't believe a bunch of golfers sold out to a tyrannical govt with an atrocious record on human rights.

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LIV Golf lawsuit shatters friendly facade among PGA Tour players. Now it's personal Opinion (Original Post) SouthernDem4ever Aug 2022 OP
Saudis' 2billion to Trump-Kushner keeps popping into my head. blm Aug 2022 #1
I'm not the least bit surprised. They had no problem playing Phoenix61 Aug 2022 #2
They certainly do suck! SouthernDem4ever Aug 2022 #4
Monopolies are not broken easily. Sneederbunk Aug 2022 #3
no only by oil-soaked beheading regimes. SouthernDem4ever Aug 2022 #5
LIV is backed by Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund Sneederbunk Aug 2022 #6
Thanks for the info SouthernDem4ever Aug 2022 #13
The Saudis paid huge signing bonuses PJMcK Aug 2022 #7
Imagine DeChambeau.... SergeStorms Aug 2022 #8
Same here. You cant play in MLB and Japan at the same time ZonkerHarris Aug 2022 #9
Exactly. SergeStorms Aug 2022 #14
That's almost enough to afford to be able to wash the blood off the money ZonkerHarris Aug 2022 #10
The money is an obvious bribe PJMcK Aug 2022 #12
When bashing LIV assholes let us not forget Sharksaw Norman. twodogsbarking Aug 2022 #11
Never liked Norman. SergeStorms Aug 2022 #15


(16,883 posts)
2. I'm not the least bit surprised. They had no problem playing
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 08:55 PM
Aug 2022

courses that refused African-American membership. That they are self serving jerks shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone.


(14,115 posts)
6. LIV is backed by Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 09:17 PM
Aug 2022

PIF has stakes in Starbucks, Bank of America, Berkshire Hathaway, Qualcomm and Uber. Feel free to boycott.


(6,052 posts)
13. Thanks for the info
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:48 AM
Aug 2022

Great country this is where a citizen can be dismembered for no reason but money always wins.


(21,721 posts)
7. The Saudis paid huge signing bonuses
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 09:21 PM
Aug 2022

Bonesaw Phil got $200M.

Dustin the wind got $150M.

Tiger was offered something north of $700M. Impressively, he turned it down.


(18,565 posts)
8. Imagine DeChambeau....
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 10:38 PM
Aug 2022

was lured with big bucks as well, but I haven't heard any figures bounced around.

I used to like watching Mickelson and Johnson play, but they're off my radar screen completely now.

I actually hope the PGA prevails here. These guys made their choices, so live with them.


(24,032 posts)
9. Same here. You cant play in MLB and Japan at the same time
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 04:23 AM
Aug 2022

So why should you get to pick and choose which golf league you play in on a week to week basis


(24,032 posts)
10. That's almost enough to afford to be able to wash the blood off the money
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 04:25 AM
Aug 2022

That’s almost enough to afford to be able to wash the blood off the money



(21,721 posts)
12. The money is an obvious bribe
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:57 AM
Aug 2022

The players who accepted it are greedy and unsportsmanlike-like. They're also unethical, in my opinion, for going into business with such odious people.


(18,565 posts)
15. Never liked Norman.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 03:36 PM
Aug 2022

Even when he was at the height of his popularity something about him irked me. Maybe it was the way he treated the people around him.

I appreciated his skill as a player and the time he sacrificed to be the best at his sport, but that skill is most often born of privilege and exclusivity. These guys never had to work as teenagers. Their wealthy parents took care of their every need, the best instructors and equipment.

There are very few in that sport who had it tough when they were young. Lee Trevino comes to mind. Lee was a hoot,, and I loved watching him interacting with all the rich white boys. Natural ability only goes so far in golf. Sooner or later it takes money to propel you to the top, and it isn't their money.

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