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(147,167 posts)
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 07:31 PM Mar 2021

Opinion: Don't believe conservative fearmongering over vaccine passports

As of now, multiple private and nonprofit organizations and coalitions are working to develop standards that a passport could use. The administration is trying to coordinate these efforts, but if a passport comes to fruition it “will be driven by the private sector,” said White House press secretary Jen Psaki. “Ours will more be focused on guidelines that can be used as a basis.”

That in itself makes it a challenge, since the utility of a passport would depend on its being simple and universally available. If there were a dozen different kinds of passports, it would make it harder for businesses to use them to screen customers.....

But this is coercive, some will say. There are places I wouldn’t be able to go unless I were vaccinated! That’s true — although in many cases, it would probably mean you wouldn’t be able to go there unless you put on a mask, which is exactly what you have to do now.

And we coerce people all the time, especially when we’ve decided it’s necessary to keep them from hurting others. Forcing you to take a driving test before you get a license — and forcing you to carry that license in case a law enforcement official wants to see it — is coercive. But we do it. We force children to get a range of vaccines before they’re allowed to attend school with other children.

Conservatives, furthermore, are happy to require people to show a very specific ID before they’re allowed to vote. They would also like to see every employer use a federal government database known as E-Verify to check your citizenship status before they’ll hire you; Republican hero Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill mandating just that in Florida.
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Opinion: Don't believe conservative fearmongering over vaccine passports (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 OP
one would think that the card we received when we were vaccinated would yellowdogintexas Mar 2021 #1
Take pictures of it and save them on your phone, too. Haggard Celine Mar 2021 #3
Has to be more than that RussBLib Apr 2021 #9
I don't know if all of the vaccination sites are doing this, Haggard Celine Mar 2021 #2
There will be a third booster shot for sure Shermann Mar 2021 #4
I want the sixes right on my forehead, Haggard Celine Mar 2021 #5
So OldBaldy1701E Mar 2021 #7
Lol! Haggard Celine Mar 2021 #8
They had QR code for second shot LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #6


(22,367 posts)
1. one would think that the card we received when we were vaccinated would
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 07:36 PM
Mar 2021

suffice. It has the dates of both injections, the brand and the patient's name.

Office Depot will laminate them for free.


(9,116 posts)
9. Has to be more than that
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 12:00 AM
Apr 2021

There is no guarantee that, even if fully vaccinated, you will not catch Covid again. Maybe a lighter effect, but maybe enough to shed viruses to others.

And how long will antibodies last? Unknown. I reckon we'll need periodic antibody tests to ensure we are "clean."

And some countries insist on a negative test to gain entry, no matter when you got vaccinated.

Haggard Celine

(16,894 posts)
2. I don't know if all of the vaccination sites are doing this,
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 07:45 PM
Mar 2021

but I went through a major drive-thru site and they took my paperwork and put me in their computer. When I came back to get my second shot, they looked me up, checked my appointment time and said, "thank you for coming, Mr. C----." I wonder how many sites are entering this information into computers. Hopefully all of them. Here comes the Mark of the Beast! Bring it on.


(7,659 posts)
4. There will be a third booster shot for sure
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 08:05 PM
Mar 2021

With each shot, you get another '6' on your card.

Or tattooed on your neck, or implanted as a chip, whatever you prefer.


(5,331 posts)
7. So
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 07:30 AM
Mar 2021

Way back when (1987) I had moved into an apartment complex that was regularly blanketed by Jehovah's Witnesses on a monthly basis. I was not keen on dealing with them, because I am not one to hide in my own home. If I don't answer the door, then leave. But, these guys listen at the door and they are relentless at times. So, after being there a month or so, I saw them arrive in their minivan and start their rounds. I brainstormed on how I could nip this in the bud before it started. I suddenly had it. I ran to the kitchen and grabbed my biggest butcher knife, then snagged the ketchup out of the fridge, and coated the knife and my hand up past my wrist with it. I then grabbed my old apron that is clean, but doesn't look it due to using it for a number of things, and smear it as well. I then waited. The doorbell rang. I waited a moment, then flung the door open and exclaimed, "Well hey there you two! You are just in time for the sacrifice!" (Bear in mind that, as someone who is into fantasy and horror, my place was decorated in kind. No coffins as tables or anything, just some great posters, statues, and so on.) The look on their faces as they stood there staring at me with a big, ketchup covered smile on my face, holding this dripping knife. They decided to stammer an excuse and get out of there. I immediately did a clean up and tossed the apron in the wash, just in case they decided to go to the authorities. I wanted to look completely normal in case they did show up. No one did, but I can tell you that, after that, those people never knocked on my door again. (It might have been the gargoyle door knocker I put on the door for a while. Who can say?)

Haggard Celine

(16,894 posts)
8. Lol!
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 10:31 AM
Mar 2021

That is wonderful! I think the next time they come to my door, I'm going to put on a dog collar, A cowboy hat, and strip down to my boxers and a t-shirt and fling the door open and say yeehaw, y'all come on in, and snap my riding crop a couple of times. That should do it. Thank you for helping me think of a way to deal with those fuckers!

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