Trump Allies Eye Long-Shot Election Reversal in Congress, Testing Pence
Source: New York Times
Trump Allies Eye Long-Shot Election Reversal in Congress, Testing Pence
Some House Republicans plan to try to use Congresss tallying of electoral results on Jan. 6 to tip the election to President Trump. The attempt will put Republicans in a pinch.
By Nicholas Fandos and Michael S. Schmidt
Dec. 13, 2020
Updated 11:36 a.m. ET
President Trump lost key swing states by clear margins. His barrage of lawsuits claiming widespread voting fraud has been almost universally dismissed, most recently by the Supreme Court. And on Monday, the Electoral College will formally cast a majority of its votes for President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.
But as the president continues to refuse to concede, a small group of his most loyal backers in Congress is plotting a final-stage challenge on the floor of the House of Representatives in early January to try to reverse Mr. Bidens victory.
Constitutional scholars and even members of the presidents own party say the effort is all but certain to fail. But the looming battle on Jan. 6 is likely to culminate in a messy and deeply divisive spectacle that could thrust Vice President Mike Pence into the excruciating position of having to declare once and for all that Mr. Trump has indeed lost the election.
The fight promises to shape how Mr. Trumps base views the election for years to come, and to pose yet another awkward test of allegiance for Republicans who have privately hoped that the Electoral College vote this week will be the final word on the election result.
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We have a superior role under the Constitution than the Supreme Court does, than any federal court judge does, than any state court judge does, Mr. Brooks said in an interview. What we say, goes. Thats the final verdict.
Under rules laid out in the Constitution and the Electoral Count Act of 1887, their challenges must be submitted in writing with a senators signature also affixed. No Republican senator has yet stepped forward to say he or she will back such an effort, though a handful of reliable allies of Mr. Trump, including Senators Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Rand Paul of Kentucky, have signaled they would be open to doing so.
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Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/13/us/politics/trump-allies-election-overturn-congress-pence.html
Blue Owl
(50,532 posts)It's really quite breathtaking.
magicarpet
(14,187 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)What we say, goes. Thats the final verdict. (Who gives a f*ck what the voters decide?)
Girard442
(6,086 posts)There's no search for a just and legitimate outcome here -- just a bunch of dirtbag punks trying one door after another to see if one was accidentally left unlocked.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,916 posts)Certainly not in the numbers needed to switch the results.
Keep in mind that each party selects its own electors. Which means party faithfuls, behind the scenes workers who deserve a small reward. They are not chosen randomly, and there is not just one group of electors in each state.
Even those running as some kind of third party candidate are supposed to have their electors in place for each state whose ballot they are on. Which is one of the things Kanye West couldn't get right.
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)There are consequences even if that were to happen
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/07/14/supreme-courts-faithless-electors-decision-validates-case-for-the-national-popular-vote-interstate-compact/
dhill926
(16,373 posts)from the rubes...
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)Heres how it works
A senator would have to join a House member in objecting to a states slate of votes, and the narrow Republican majority in the Senate would have to stick together to approve the objection. But even if both of those things occurred, the Democratic-held House would not go along, and because both chambers must agree to an objection, the effort would fail.
More at the link
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/dec/10/casting-and-counting-electoral-votes-roadmap/
Nitram
(22,913 posts)I expect it's all about fund-raising. Which means "getting the rubes to donate money towards a lost cause and fill the pockets of corrupt (I know, that's redundant) Republicans."