Tue Dec 8, 2020, 06:26 AM
Judi Lynn (157,183 posts)
'A nightmare': why were an elderly black couple targeted in a shocking Texas police raid?Forth Worth police have still not said why Nelda Price and her husband John, who died weeks later, were restrained in their pajamas Alexandra Villarreal Tue 8 Dec 2020 02.00 EST While the police in Fort Worth, Texas, ransacked Nelda Price’s home, an officer directed her to put her hands together – as if she were praying – so he could restrain her with zip ties. “I told him, ‘I am praying. Because I don’t understand why you’re here, and I don’t know what this is about,’” Nelda told the Guardian. On 11 March, she and her husband John, both Black and in their late 60s, had been chatting in the dining room, dressed for bed, when a noise interrupted them. Nelda’s first instinct was to get up and investigate, but after John thought he heard gunshots, he pushed her to the floor. By the time they looked up, Fort Worth police had already broken through their iron gate and were storming the front door, guns drawn. Without any explanation, the officers demanded that John and Nelda put their hands up, then took them outside for questioning. More: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/08/fort-worth-texas-police-elderly-black-couple
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Judi Lynn | Dec 2020 | OP |
murielm99 | Dec 2020 | #1 | |
TreasonousBastard | Dec 2020 | #3 | |
safeinOhio | Dec 2020 | #2 | |
TreasonousBastard | Dec 2020 | #4 | |
druidity33 | Dec 2020 | #5 | |
AmyStrange | Dec 2020 | #12 | |
druidity33 | Dec 2020 | #13 | |
AmyStrange | Dec 2020 | #14 | |
safeinOhio | Dec 2020 | #6 | |
UpInArms | Dec 2020 | #7 | |
3Hotdogs | Dec 2020 | #8 | |
obamanut2012 | Dec 2020 | #10 | |
AmyStrange | Dec 2020 | #11 | |
Hoyt | Dec 2020 | #9 | |
dalton99a | Dec 2020 | #15 |
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 06:29 AM
murielm99 (29,855 posts)
1. What a terrible story!
Response to murielm99 (Reply #1)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 07:00 AM
TreasonousBastard (42,442 posts)
3. Horrible! Does look like the wrong house.
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 06:56 AM
safeinOhio (30,362 posts)
2. We need to change the language of "Defund Police" to
"Reward quality Policing".
Department that have few if any Civil Rights and Human Rights cases against them should be rewarded with funding for the department and pay raised for officers. On the other hand, violations of Civil and Human Rights should cost the department funds and a reduction in pay for all officers. I think we would quickly see improvements to every department. Cops and unions would not find any benefit in protecting bad cops. |
Response to safeinOhio (Reply #2)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 07:02 AM
TreasonousBastard (42,442 posts)
4. Sounds like a plan.
Response to safeinOhio (Reply #2)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 07:25 AM
druidity33 (6,219 posts)
5. No thanks...
Nobody else gets an award when they are just doing their job right. Cops already get tons of awards... beyond getting paid REALLY well. I AM ok with "cutting department funds and a reduction in pay for all officers" when they suffer violations. It'll never happen though. Police Unions and entrenched ideology. Again, you're talking about rewarding cops that don't kill people or violate their rights... which honestly is sad, that that's what we've come to.
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Response to druidity33 (Reply #5)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 12:21 PM
AmyStrange (7,989 posts)
12. You're probably right, but...
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I've worked at many places where your pay increases are determined by how good your annual review is. =========== |
Response to AmyStrange (Reply #12)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 12:28 PM
druidity33 (6,219 posts)
13. in a Union shop? nt.
Response to druidity33 (Reply #13)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 12:34 PM
AmyStrange (7,989 posts)
14. I've only worked at one place that was a Union shop, and...
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THAT was over 40 years ago. =========== |
Response to safeinOhio (Reply #2)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 07:42 AM
safeinOhio (30,362 posts)
6. What works?
How we frame a question. Republicans were able to limit Unions by calling anti-union laws "Right to Work" laws and got away with it. We got no where and lost ground in the last election by the negative term, De-fund the police.
Using the same tactics of using language to do the opposite. "Reward Good Police" we might come up with policies that can remove bad cops and encourage other cops to report the bad ones because of the rewards of getting rid of those that cause Civil Rights awards by the courts. |
Response to safeinOhio (Reply #6)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 08:08 AM
UpInArms (50,755 posts)
7. I like that
Call it the Clean Streets Act ...
And use it to clean up their funding |
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 08:30 AM
3Hotdogs (10,431 posts)
8. Furthering the idea..... Cop has to agree to open public records of personnel file at beginning
of hire, or on an annual basis. If so, officer is eligible for annual, compounded bonus if record shows no violations. Fine tune this as necessary/
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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #8)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 09:45 AM
obamanut2012 (24,253 posts)
10. in what other job are you rewarded for NOT breaking the law???
No bonus for cops just because they didn't act like a psychopath. Good lord.
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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #10)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 12:16 PM
AmyStrange (7,989 posts)
11. People get paid more for doing a good job all the time...
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I've worked at many places where your pay increases are determined by how good your annual review is. =========== |
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 09:18 AM
Hoyt (54,770 posts)
9. Another case of shoddy work by those who initiate, process, and approve search warrants.
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 08:10 PM
dalton99a (75,642 posts)
15. Nelda and John Price, who were then 68 and 69
![]() ![]() Nelda Price and the estate of her late husband filed a lawsuit on Oct. 20, 2020, that alleges that the City of Fort Worth mishandled the execution of a search warrant at the Prices’ house. /Van Wey, Presby & Williams |