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Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 01:36 AM Dec 2011

Oakland Police Department Investigation Opened Into Officer Conduct During Occupy Protests

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/22/oakland-police-department-investigation-occupy-protests_n_1166368.html?ref=san-francisco

The investigation is likely in response to a recent lawsuit filed against the department by the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Lawyers Guild alleging that:

On two recent occasions (Oct. 25 and Nov. 2) the OPD and cooperating police agencies under their direction indiscriminately shot flash-bang grenades and other projectiles into crowds of Occupy Oakland protesters. These actions clearly violate the Fourth Amendment by subjecting protesters who posed no safety concerns to unnecessary and excessive force, and the First Amendment by interfering with demonstrators' rights to assemble and demonstrate.


Both Quan and the OPD have become major targets of late owing to their handling of Occupy Oakland. Quan is current the subject of two separate recall campaigns working to get her removed from office.
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Oakland Police Department Investigation Opened Into Officer Conduct During Occupy Protests (Original Post) Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 OP
Mayor Quan is toast. This much is certain. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #1
It is infuriating that in 2011... Kalidurga Dec 2011 #2
Well sadly, it is predictable nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #3
"but now that we are occupying the courts" WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2011 #9
Then those words from JFK might come back to hunt us nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #10
unless they happened to hear what newt has to say to them PatrynXX Dec 2011 #11
Quan's response? "... there were exceptions on both sides." AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2011 #4
Never forget that they LIED publicly, lied lied lied! Please read this and NEVER FORGET: Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #6
Their problem is that there are too many video cameras. And youtube. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2011 #7
+1 Sherman A1 Dec 2011 #8
maybe.. PatrynXX Dec 2011 #12
If I ever break the law, I want the right to investigate myself, yes I do! dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #5
+1 Bozita Dec 2011 #13

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
2. It is infuriating that in 2011...
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 02:10 AM
Dec 2011

we have to fight for our first amendment rights. OWS and it's sister Occupies have through necessity have had to not just fight for the original reason for gathering at Zuccotti Park, the lawlessness of Wall Street and their cozy relationship with DC, but also for our first amendment rights.

If we lose the later fight we have no hope of winning the former.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. Well sadly, it is predictable
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 02:23 AM
Dec 2011

Some folks LOVE the status quo. and the Occupiers are a real irritant... It does help to understand the dynamic at play. None of this has surprised me or shocked me... but now that we are occupying the courts... we enter into the next stage of this.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
9. "but now that we are occupying the courts"
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 07:46 PM
Dec 2011

I fear that most judges will look at Occupy as a disruptive force to order and to the status quo as well.
Those folks that love the status quo have been told by Fox News and others, what a threat Occupy is to their capitalistic system that they worship.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
11. unless they happened to hear what newt has to say to them
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 09:34 PM
Dec 2011

your fired or in jail. then they might think otherwise.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
6. Never forget that they LIED publicly, lied lied lied! Please read this and NEVER FORGET:
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 05:59 PM
Dec 2011

Last edited Sun Dec 25, 2011, 11:26 PM - Edit history (1)

This PDF is of course no longer at their website.

Page 2: "Did police use rubber bullets or flash-bang grenades...?"
Answer: "No, the loud noises were protestors throwing M-80s at police".

Also: "No injuries". See: Scott Olsen and others.





No rubber bullets:



No flash-bangs, especially not at someone (Scott Olsen) who is lying in a heap, and those who seek to help him (video):



No injuries...everyone has now seen the pic of Scott Olsen lying bloodied, so forgive me for not over-using it.
Especially as there are other injuries during that attack. Including a woman in dead power chair left by police to sit in a cloud of teargas:





How did they intend to cover their lies? By ordering the two news copters to shut off their live feeds moments before police attacked:



Lose Quan, but don't forget about Jordan:



They LIED LIED LIED. Never forget! And this is only about the first of FOUR attacks. In other attacks, one photojournalist was shot on livestream with a rubber bullet after asking if his distance from police was okay, and another Veteran was beaten into the hospital for attempting to leave his business for the night and go home.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
12. maybe..
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 09:34 PM
Dec 2011

except the real reason for the melee doesn't exist. got bottles. what bottles. no evidence of bottle throwing.

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