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appalachiablue

(41,192 posts)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 05:05 AM Feb 2019

ANDREW YANG 2020: Warns of Robots 'Coming For Your Jobs,' UBI Advocate

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"Andrew Yang: The 2020 Candidate Warning Of The Rise Of Robots," The entrepreneur says Trump won the 2016 election because the US automated away jobs- so he wants to become president to do something about it. David Smith, The Guardian, Feb. 24, 2019. *EXCERPTS:

Donald Trump won 2,584 counties in the 2016 presidential election; Hillary Clinton carried only 472. But the Democratic nominee’s accounted for nearly two-thirds of America’s economic output, according to a study by the Brookings Institution. This is one vivid illustration of America’s great divide. Glittering coastal cities such as Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York and Washington are becoming richer and more influential, attracting more jobs, better hospitals and schools, and technology. Small towns and rural communities are falling further behind, feeding a sense that, to paraphrase LP Hartley, the coasts are a foreign country – they do things differently there.



Andrew Yang is a New York and Silicon Valley entrepreneur and in the Democratic race for the White House in 2020. The two historical time periods that are comparable to where we are now in terms of polarisation and division are the French Revolution before the revolution and the United States before the civil war,” he said. So far Yang has raised $250,000 from 14,000 donors and has chapters in more than 35 states. He has no doubts about the gravity of his mission. Life expectancy in the US has declined for the past three years for the first time since the flu pandemic of 1918 because of a surge in suicides and drug overdoses, both of which are at record highs, Yang notes.

And like a time traveller from the future, Yang has a warning about more to come: the rise of the machines – robots that will put millions of more people out of work. As it happens, it is an army of automatons conceived and created by tech firms on the coasts and unleashed on middle America, potentially spurring a deepening us versus them mentality. Yang has written: “I am writing from inside the tech bubble to let you know that we are coming for your jobs.” Yang wants to become president so he can do something about it.

He asserts that Trump won the election because the country automated away 4m manufacturing jobs in the critical swing states of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Missouri and Iowa. “Now we’re about to do the same thing to millions of retail jobs, call centre jobs, fast food jobs and, most destructively, trucking jobs in the coming years … "

“So the hollowing out of the interior of the country is going to be amplified many times over by the automation of freight. It’s going to be disastrous for many Americans and many communities.” No one could accuse Yang of lacking big ideas. Under his administration, the government would provide a universal basic income of $1,000 a month, or $12,000 a year, for all US citizens between the ages of 18 and 64, paid for by a new tax on automation.
Before you suggest he is mad, Yang contends that Thomas Paine, Martin Luther King, Richard Nixon and Milton Friedman all endorsed similar ideas, and oil-rich Alaska has paid an annual dividend to citizens for the past 37 years with great success...

MORE, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/24/andrew-yang-2020-candidate-robots-machines

Website *ANDREW YANG 2020* https://www.yang2020.com/what-is-ubi/



(3 mins) "A Campaign of Ideas | Andrew Yang for President." Well done video.
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ANDREW YANG 2020: Warns of Robots 'Coming For Your Jobs,' UBI Advocate (Original Post) appalachiablue Feb 2019 OP
That's a compelling video... Tiggeroshii Feb 2019 #1
The American and other world Oligarchs failed to calculate democratisphere Feb 2019 #2
+1 DetlefK Feb 2019 #4
Really. Note to self, 'don't eat your horse.' appalachiablue Feb 2019 #5
Yep, who's gonna buy their cheap labor over priced and STB robotic SammyWinstonJack Feb 2019 #7
In 10 or 20 years, Yes, but not in the near future. DetlefK Feb 2019 #3
To some, that is the near future. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2019 #6
You've likely seen news of Waymo/Google Taxis in Chander, AZ. appalachiablue Feb 2019 #10
Google's 'Waymo' Self- Driving Cars Attacked in Arizona appalachiablue Feb 2019 #13
I saw my first robots in Stop and Shop this weekend hack89 Feb 2019 #8
Robots are already providing security as security guards. democratisphere Feb 2019 #9
That is wild! Great if posted in the Video Section. I can post, appalachiablue Feb 2019 #11
Go right ahead. The robot replacement of human workers is now democratisphere Feb 2019 #12
Locking. Skinner Feb 2019 #14
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
1. That's a compelling video...
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:36 AM
Feb 2019

Wow.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
2. The American and other world Oligarchs failed to calculate
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:50 AM
Feb 2019

the impact of automation and robotics on their precious 70% consumer based economies. In their quest of amassing more greedy wealth, they failed to realize that robotics and automation don't buy sh't, where people with decent paying jobs do. Idiots.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
4. +1
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 07:27 AM
Feb 2019

There is a sci-fi novel that indirectly deals with that problem. "Master of All Things" (or something like that).

The novel proposes that corporations that automate too much get punished with a special tax. That money then goes to the people are unemployed because of the robots.
So the money goes from the company to taxes to people to the economy and back to the company.

appalachiablue

(41,192 posts)
5. Really. Note to self, 'don't eat your horse.'
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 07:35 AM
Feb 2019

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
7. Yep, who's gonna buy their cheap labor over priced and STB robotic
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 07:54 AM
Feb 2019

produced crap on a $1000/mo UBI?

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
3. In 10 or 20 years, Yes, but not in the near future.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 07:22 AM
Feb 2019

It will be one or two more decades before robotic slaves are so sophisticated that they can replace human workers on a large scale.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,377 posts)
6. To some, that is the near future.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 07:46 AM
Feb 2019

In terms of jobs, the "near future" is any time prior to retirement. Especially when companies don't provide defined retirement benefits, and health insurance is so expensive until Medicare age.

The robot I want is one that will drive my car, and I want it before I'm too old to drive. I want to just get in the car and say "Gort, take me to bingo", or wherever my ancient brain wants to go.

Manufacturing robots are already replacing many workers. Some of the automotive industry parking lots are mostly empty, few workers needed today. Robots do the spot-welding, undercoating, painting, cylinder head bolt torquing, etc, etc.

appalachiablue

(41,192 posts)
10. You've likely seen news of Waymo/Google Taxis in Chander, AZ.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:49 PM
Feb 2019

Like FL, AZ is targeted for the senior population and flat, level terrain.

More, https://www.cbsnews.com/news/waymos-self-driving-cars-road-rage-arizona/

appalachiablue

(41,192 posts)
13. Google's 'Waymo' Self- Driving Cars Attacked in Arizona
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 01:01 PM
Feb 2019


Dec. 21, '18, NBC News, (CHANDLER, AZ)- The introduction of Google's Waymo self-driving cars in the test city of Chandler, AZ has sparked a new kind road rage: human versus robot. In the past 2 years, there have been at least 21 instances documented by local police involving people harassing Waymo vehicles in the Phoenix suburb of 240,000.
Those instances include a man waving a pistol at a Waymo vehicle as it passed his driveway, tires slashed while idling in traffic, thrown rocks, and a Jeep that ran a Waymo car off the road 6 times. Waymo, the self-driving car division that spun out from Google X, has been in Chandler since 2016.

“I drive by them. They don’t bother me,” said Sarah Miranda. But other local residents say the cars make them uncomfortable. Kevin Ridley, a retired technical writer in Tempe prefers not to drive next to Waymo cars and does his best to avoid being stuck next to or behind one in traffic. “They scare me,” he said. “I don’t think any amount of technology can replace the human decision-making process. How many people will be hurt or killed as we learn the limitations or missed parameters of the programming for self-driving cars as they are released to the public?” https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/innovation/humans-harass-attack-self-driving-waymo-cars-n950971

hack89

(39,171 posts)
8. I saw my first robots in Stop and Shop this weekend
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:37 AM
Feb 2019

Big, tall (at least 7 feet) wheeled devices autonomously driving around the store. They say that they are used to spot and report spills but I think they are really testing the technology and acclimating customers to seeing robots. I bet in a couple of years they will be stocking shelves.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
9. Robots are already providing security as security guards.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:38 PM
Feb 2019

The "future" for some is already here with rapid robot implementation right now.

Check out this link:

appalachiablue

(41,192 posts)
11. That is wild! Great if posted in the Video Section. I can post,
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:54 PM
Feb 2019

unless you would like to do it.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
12. Go right ahead. The robot replacement of human workers is now
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:58 PM
Feb 2019

and will be even more so in the immediate future.

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
14. Locking.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 01:10 PM
Feb 2019

Feel free to re-post in the Democratic Primaries forum.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1287

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