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Thu Dec 27, 2018, 08:47 PM

Black Voters Will Reject Any 2020 Democratic Candidate Who Trashes Obama to Appease the Far Left

https://www.theroot.com/word-to-the-unwise-black-voters-will-reject-any-2020-d-1831339154


Some people don’t learn, even after losing the hard way in 2016. Despite not being able to convince black voters that Sen. Bernie Sanders was the ideal, perfect, pure-as-driven-snow candidate during the 2016 Democratic primaries, despite arguing that black people were essentially voting against their own interests because we weren’t choosing the senator from Vermont over Hillary Clinton, many on the far left are back at it again.

Instead of recalibrating their thinking or their message, those on the far left seem poised to double down on the same strategy that led to their favorite candidate, Sanders, getting his ass whopped in 2016. They are deluding themselves, believing Sanders’ ability to (barely) beat Hillary Clinton two years ago among young black voters will trump the enormous gap that existed between Sanders and Clinton among all black voters.

They’re even further deluding themselves by going after President Barack Obama for being a “bad president”:

There's no honest debate among 2020 candidates without voters acknowledging Obama was a bad President. They have not done so. I'm going to keep hitting this point because it's simple but unacknowledged. Obama ruined the Democratic Party.
— Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller) December 27, 2018


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Reply Black Voters Will Reject Any 2020 Democratic Candidate Who Trashes Obama to Appease the Far Left (Original post)
friendly_iconoclast Dec 2018 OP
hlthe2b Dec 2018 #1
friendly_iconoclast Dec 2018 #2
JHan Dec 2018 #6
The Polack MSgt Dec 2018 #21
Gothmog Dec 2018 #10
The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #3
YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #4
dubyadiprecession Dec 2018 #5
murielm99 Dec 2018 #15
RDANGELO Dec 2018 #7
Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #17
greatauntoftriplets Dec 2018 #8
Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #9
Gothmog Dec 2018 #11
Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #12
Gothmog Dec 2018 #13
Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #14
Gothmog Dec 2018 #22
sinkingfeeling Dec 2018 #16
Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #18
JI7 Dec 2018 #19
Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #20
question everything Dec 2018 #23

Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 08:49 PM

1. Not only "black" voters will reject candidates who do that...

Who the hell is Matt Stoller and why should we care?

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 08:55 PM

2. I've heard similar sentiments from younger white self-proclaimed leftists.

All I can think is: "You fools helped enable Trump"

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 09:08 PM

6. he once said that Romney is more liberal than Obama ( essentially)

this idiocy

his writings should be avoided unless you want your brain to hurt.

He even critiqued Nancy Pelosi's framing of healthcare in terms of human lives , instead arguing that she should have framed it as a problem with bureaucracy. And the greatest is his belief that politics only became problematically corrupt in the 70's I have bad news for him, either he doesn't read history books or his understanding of history is really selective. He writes bad takes as if his life depended on it. I don't know why he gets quoted by ANYONE.

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Response to JHan (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 01:54 PM

21. Thank You JHan...

I was looking for that Romney thing.

Stoller is a whataboutist troll and RWNJ apologist who doesn't deserve to even smell an honest man's shit

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:03 PM

10. Agreed, I will not support any candidate who attacks President Obama

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 08:56 PM

3. Not just black voters.

This white voter won't tolerate any trashing of Obama, either.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 08:56 PM

4. Same here.

Why the hell would anybody trash Obama?

He was awesome.

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Response to YessirAtsaFact (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 09:00 PM

5. Your right...

What would doing that accomplish???

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Response to YessirAtsaFact (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 12:12 AM

15. You've been here since 2001?

I have seen plenty of DU members trash Obama. Surely you have seen the same thing.

I was not thrilled that we had to have a special forum for Obama if we wanted to discuss his Presidency without a lot of gratuitous criticism.

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 09:14 PM

7. I mostly disagree with this article.

Bernie Sanders did not run against Obama. He made the mistake of not making social justice a major plank of his campaign early on. In the time that Obama had both houses of congress, he used that time to get the economy out the the great recession and pass the ACA. After that, it was fighting tooth and nail with a partly Republican congress that could care less about things like income inequality.

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Response to RDANGELO (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 01:33 AM

17. "Bernie Sanders did not run against Obama."

If not Sanders, who was it that suggested Obama be primaried in 2012?

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:00 PM

8. Fuck anyone who trashes President Obama.

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:20 PM

9. Who the fuck is matt stroller ?

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:05 PM

11. He is very active on twitter

He gets in to fights with some past members of this board on Twitter

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:15 PM

12. Twitter ??

Well, that explains it.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:19 PM

13. Sanders supporters are very active attacking non white posters who do not like sanders

Twitter has some discussions about sanders

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:26 PM

14. Are those the "Bernie Bros" ?

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 10:29 PM

22. From Josh Marshall on TPM

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 01:20 AM

16. I'm not black, but count me in. Will not vote for anyone bad mouthing Obama.

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 01:36 AM

18. There's a reason Obama has been Gallup's Most Admired Man for eleven years. The haters can...

badmouth him all they want, but they'll never get out of a primary if they choose that route.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 03:03 AM

19. and this time around they will be called out on it

 

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Response to JI7 (Reply #19)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 03:06 AM

20. Let's hope so. n/t

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 01:10 AM

23. Where does this come from? Who is rejecting Obama?

And from where did "The Root" come from? It does not have any "About us." And this is the second story from this source posted here which raises eyebrows.

Last. we seem to be having many potential candidates - new and eager. There is no need to search for an elderly man from VT who has no intention of being a Democrat.

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