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Whoa! ✔ Is The FBI Trolling Trump? (Original Post) Wwcd Jul 2018 OP
Time for another Trial of the Century. Qutzupalotl Jul 2018 #1
after all it's another century! mucifer Jul 2018 #2
It's a new century MiniMe Jul 2018 #8
Yep, another century.. another Russian spy Cha Jul 2018 #23
Clean house! ffr Jul 2018 #3
Warning trDump not to play child's games with Intel guys. magicarpet Jul 2018 #4
You F with the Agencies, Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #12
Venona gives me goosebumps. ffr Jul 2018 #5
The story of Venona is a lengthy but fascinating read. Wwcd Jul 2018 #10
I had just posted that same FBI link. KUDOs to you! ffr Jul 2018 #13
Great minds ..🤔 It is just too good not to share here. Wwcd Jul 2018 #15
Yes, this is a great comfort! colorado_ufo Jul 2018 #26
After reading that Russia is requesting that the USA Iliyah Jul 2018 #6
The Venona PDF is online here ffr Jul 2018 #7
Thank You! 😁 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 Wwcd Jul 2018 #18
Same day they released the Carter Page FISA info via FOIA. Qutzupalotl Jul 2018 #9
Its done. They can't be any more obvious than that. procon Jul 2018 #11
Visually, they look like extras from a "spy movie". BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #14
Haaahaaaha...thats funny.. Wwcd Jul 2018 #17
Enough trolling, arrest him already! IronLionZion Jul 2018 #16
I'm with you IronLionZion SallyHemmings Jul 2018 #20
It may not be illegal for the president to share secrets. I suspect the president has wide Nitram Jul 2018 #19
Maybe, but they post a lot about historical cases DesertRat Jul 2018 #21
Wow! Good on the FBI! Cha Jul 2018 #22
They zeroed right in on the Rosensberg case didn't they. Wwcd Jul 2018 #24
It's surreal! As long as Fraud is Cha Jul 2018 #25


(23,458 posts)
2. after all it's another century!
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 09:41 PM
Jul 2018

Wonderful tweets from the FBI. They have stuff in there about other Russian spies.


Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
12. You F with the Agencies,
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 10:37 PM
Jul 2018

the Agencies will F with you. This is why Trump does his best to discredit any and all Law and Intel Agencies. He knows damn well his stepped into the Shite and the smell is not going away.



(6,288 posts)
10. The story of Venona is a lengthy but fascinating read.
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 10:27 PM
Jul 2018

Much I did not know.
But am wiser for the read!

In the Enemy’s House:
Venona and the Maturation of American Counterintelligence

Presented at the
2005 Symposium on Cryptologic History
October 27, 2005
John F. Fox, Jr., FBI Historian1

One man was tall, thin, a genius linguist at the NSA who was working on breaking coded telegrams sent from Soviet offices in the US to Moscow.

The other was a lawyer and cop, a young FBI supervisor recently transferred to Headquarters.

A relationship did not blossom immediately and neither man knew what, if anything, to expect from the other.
Some might predict that men from such diverse institutional cultures would be incompatible.
And yet within weeks, a working relationship and, thereafter, a friendship grew between the NSA’s Merideth Gardner and FBI Special Agent Lamphere.
Lamphere later described this success saying:

“I stood in the vestibule of the enemy’s house, having entered by stealth. I held in my hand a set of keys ...and we were determined to use them

By the third interview with British intelligence, Fuchs had admitted to espionage from the end of 1941 to February of 1949.

His admission provided the British government
with the leverage it needed to charge him with a crime.
Knowing the British were soon to publicly try Fuchs, the Bureau rushed to wrap up the loose ends to its REST investigation.

Fletcher, in a memo to Ladd, asked for permission to interview Fuchs’s sister before news of her brother’s prosecution got out.
Permission was granted and the interview was held that day.

Meanwhile, the Bureau began to press the British to get answers to US questions about Fuchs’s activities in Canada and the U.S.


FROM http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/venona/intercepts.html

Decrypted cables
Read Venona Intercepts

by Peter Tyson

In 1995, the U.S. National Security Agency broke a half century of silence by releasing translations of Soviet cables decrypted back in the 1940s by the Venona Project.

Venona was a top-secret U.S. effort to gather and decrypt messages sent in the 1940s by agents of what is now called the KGB and the GRU, the Soviet military intelligence agency.

The cables revealed the identities of numerous Americans who were spies for the Soviet Union, including those chronicled in NOVA's "Secrets, Lies, and Atomic Spies."

The four Venona cables presented here provide striking evidence of the covert activities of several atomic-era spies, including Klaus Fuchs, Julius Rosenberg, and Theodore Alvin Hall. Through the cables and accompanying stories, peer through the keyhole into the secret lives of these and other agents, who gave away details of the atomic bomb and other highly sensitive technologies. Watch for code words such as "Enormous," which stood for the Manhattan Project, America's atomic-bomb program.

To see the complete set of Venona documents released so far, go to the NSA's Venona Documents page at

*The February 9, 1944 cable: Klaus Fuchs and Harry Gold
*The September 21, 1944 cable: The Rosenbergs and the Greenglasses
*The November 12, 1944 cable: Theodore Alvin Hall and Saville Sax
*The November 14, 1944 cable: Joel Barr and Alfred Sarant


The question of McCarthyism is another subject from the era than brought forth the Venona Papers.

And here we are today facing the threat of Russia again.



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15. Great minds ..🤔 It is just too good not to share here.
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 11:00 PM
Jul 2018

FBI Trolling The big Dumb Dotard.

This goes out to Vlad as well, I'm guessing.

Pretty cool knowing we few on DU aren't fighting the war by ourselves!

I'm leaving it in the hands of powers much bigger than me...

Off to Rec your link...


(25,111 posts)
6. After reading that Russia is requesting that the USA
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 09:53 PM
Jul 2018

release the female Russian spy and wondering if t-rump is probably promising Putin he would, I'm waiting for the BIG drop on shithole.


(14,276 posts)
9. Same day they released the Carter Page FISA info via FOIA.
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 10:21 PM
Jul 2018

They are sending a message...we know how to handle spies and traitors.


(15,805 posts)
11. Its done. They can't be any more obvious than that.
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 10:27 PM
Jul 2018

The FBI already knows how the Mueller investigation will end.


(51,546 posts)
14. Visually, they look like extras from a "spy movie".
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 10:49 PM
Jul 2018

If you could cast anyone to portray a spy, it would be either of these two. If the moron had a slimy little mustache and wore a hat and Natasha (oops, I mean Melanie) were cast, it would be a newer version of Boris and Natasha.


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19. It may not be illegal for the president to share secrets. I suspect the president has wide
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:32 AM
Jul 2018

latitude regarding with whom he shares such information. He has the power to de-classify classified information. It should be impeachable in this case, considering he shared it with a country that interfered with our election, but look who's in charge of impeachment.


(27,995 posts)
21. Maybe, but they post a lot about historical cases
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jul 2018

Including several recently about JFK and about civil rights cases, Hoover, Frank Sinatra, jr., payday loans and many most wanted fugitive cases. I doubt that any of this constitutes trolling of DT on Twitter.


(296,665 posts)
25. It's surreal! As long as Fraud is
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jul 2018

going to take putin over our Intelligent agencies like he said in Helsinki.. the FBI might as well go Full Monty!

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