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Socal31
(2,484 posts)Russia bombed an aide convoy and is using cluster munitions and bunker busters on civilians.
Not sure you can claim one side is solely to blame.
Mr_Jefferson_24
(8,559 posts)... Syrian Red Crescent aid convoy, and the hour plus long US ariel assault on Syrian troop positions could not possibly have been a mistake.
It does seem, however, that Russia did have a military response, although those relying solely on Western MSM for their "news" probably are not aware of it:
Michel Chossudovsky, Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa, Founder and Director of the Centre for Research on Globalization, Montreal, explained that intelligence facility was attacked by Russia in the immediate wake of the US Air Strikes against Syrian forces at Deir ez-Zor in support of the ISIS terrorists. The operations centre was located in the Western part of Aleppo province at the Saman mountain, where there are a lot of old caves. The region is deep into a chain of mountains. The centre was used to coordinate acts on the ground with the reconnaissance acts of drones as well as to carry out air strikes. According to the Fars, personnel of the intelligence services was involved in the US Air Forces attack on the Syrian forces, which was carried out just after armistice agreements had been reached in Geneva.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/23/us-israelisis-control-center-wiped-out-by-russian-missiles/
Gopher222
(9 posts)Do you read anything other than neo-nazi and holocaust denial websites?
Mr_Jefferson_24
(8,559 posts)...and then please do feel free to actually address the content of the OP.
Gopher222
(9 posts)...coming from someone who dismisses all criticism by crying about the "western msm."
Mr_Jefferson_24
(8,559 posts)... make your 6th post here at DU something extra special and actually address the content of the OP with a thoughtful intelligent rebuttal.
Gopher222
(9 posts)Websites? Or are they the only ones who parrot your worldview?
Mr_Jefferson_24
(8,559 posts)You're clearly not going to address the OP in any kind of intelligent and thoughtful manner and I'm not going to waste any more effort trying to get you to.
BTW, welcome to DU and good night.
Gopher222
(9 posts)Since you merely cry about "western msm" when challenged.
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Mr_Jefferson_24
(8,559 posts)Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)The US has done plenty of crappy things, but in Syria, Russia supports a genocidal maniac
and just bombed A UN CONVOY (not even troops) that had just left their area of control (so they knew who they were!!).
If Russia wasn't involved, Assaad would have fallen and ISIS, Hesbolah, Turkey backed Sunnites, Rebels, FSA, Kurds or a combination of all of the above, would have parceled his territory and maybe the war would ALREADY BE OVER (or at least at a lower level of intensity).
The Kurds, even without the US, are a decent fighting force and they probably would have finally beaten ISIS, even though it would have taken much much longer to do so.
BTW, this whole thing sound like the good ol' blind love of Russia in the 1950s-1960s by socialists and intellectuals,
as a kind of reactionary reaction to their papa nation's own involvements abroad.
Man, were they disillusioned when it all went crashing down; Russia's "utopia" wasn't so great after all.
Many on the left (and now seemingly extreme right now) have that same reaction these days.
Everything goes full circle.
Mr_Jefferson_24
(8,559 posts)...of Assad does not leave much doubt as to where you get your "news."
Russia is there at Assad's invitation. The US is there ILLEGALLY engaged in war crimes, supporting their terrorist proxies in hopes of toppling a legitimate and popularly elected leader (Assad), divide Syria, and install a Western compliant puppet.
Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)I'm parroting nothing.
I've got a quite different views than yours on this. Got that.
You're much more dogmatic about this than me. I'm Canadian BTW and live in Canada.
Its a massive mess and Russia is supporting a Piece of crap regime; that's a fact.
Does that make anyone else a saint; absolutely not. But. I reject the false equivalence put forth here.
The US is trying to fix the spillover mess than the IRaq Clusterf*ck has created (we know what moron did that...)
by trying to save the corrupt and ineffective and sectarian Iraqi regime (letting fail would invite a bigger mess as Turkey and the Saudis would step up their military if that happened and Iran would get directly involved), using the Kurds (the only effective force) to contain ISIS. Considering how the Kurds are regarded by Turkey, that has its own lot of difficulties.
Turkey's and most of the Sunni world have been double dealing the US in initially implicitly supporting ISIS
in a kind of power play against Iran, until it blew up in their face with ISIS going against them both.
Turkey being a part of NATO and the Saudis being and important ally in the middle east
and both being strategically placed, the US was in a very difficult situation.
Still, the US struck a deal with Iran despite all this
Politics in the region post Bushes turd is hellishly complex, not the clear as bell situation, those pamphlets describe.
Gopher222
(9 posts)Mr_Jefferson_24
(8,559 posts)...in response to the OP strongly suggests that you're either too lazy, or intellectually ill equipped, to construct substantive and relevant argumentation that actually addresses the content of the piece I posted.
Gopher222
(9 posts)Sorry at the reception you are getting here. You would find the people at Stormfront more welcoming of you and your sources.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Burning churches is legitimate under Jewish law
By Gilad Atzmon
Burning churches is legitimate under Jewish law
By Gilad Atzmon
Posted on August 10, 2015 by Gilad Atzmon
Commentators on modern Jewish history are often puzzled by the animosity of secular Jews toward gentiles. Particularly puzzling is the scale of Jewish revolutionary violence towards Christianity and churches in particular. It is no secret that Bolshevism set many churches ablaze.
Equating bolzhevism with Jews and Judiasm, really.
This site can not be trusted.
Mr_Jefferson_24
(8,559 posts)...for news and opinion pieces not found in MSM, NOT the source of the above piece.
The piece you reference has absolutely nothing to do with the OP.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)That is hardly the only questionable story.
If they tolerate right wing racism, they are right wing racist and can not be trusted.
Mr_Jefferson_24
(8,559 posts)... Intrepid Report is NOT the source of the OP any more than a public library is the source of a book on their shelf with racist content.
Gopher222
(9 posts)From stormfront and the klan might raise some questions.
Mr_Jefferson_24
(8,559 posts)... of Intrepid Report's posting history would clearly reveal that it is NOT a racist website.
Gopher222
(9 posts)Sure have lots in common with Stormfronts worldview. People can visit and judge for themselves.
Mr_Jefferson_24
(8,559 posts)...and I guess it'll have to be your 7th post.
Gopher222
(9 posts)And id rather have a history of not posting, than a history of posting links to racist websites, like you.
Anyone reading your posting history can see how disgusting you are.