Chapter 21 Omaha: The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush (Webster Griffin Tarpley/Anton Chaitkin)

[bobthedrummer]

"On the morning of June 29, 1989, pandemonium erupted in the corridors of power in the nation's capital. 'Homosexual Prostitution Probe Ensnares Official of Bush, Reagan' screamed the front-page headline of the Washington Times with the kicker 'Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House'."

http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/chapter-21-omaha

This thread is going to reexamine a lot of the people and events related to what is called The Franklin Credit cover-up. There are direct connections to many of today's world headlines and topics, especially when it comes to the abuse and human-trafficking of children by groups and agencies that are supposed to provide safety and care for them.

Many DUers first learned of this massive criminal cover-up right here. Below is a thread started by RubyCat on November 29, 2004 that still serves as a good introduction to much of what will be discussed in this thread.

Franklin Credit Union Scandal-OMG Is this for real??? (RubyCat OP 11-29-04)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2761520

We will discuss people like Craig J. Spence, Donald Gregg, Larry King, Gary Carridori, Msgr. Robert Hupp and many others in this thread as well as institutions like Boys Town, BCCI, the FBI, Secret Service, CIA and a whole lot more-all in a factual manner, not what is still labeled CT by some evil professional operatives.

Add to this thread DU. Let's discuss the blowback from the Franklin Credit cover-up today.

[bobthedrummer]

1. Agent Scour White House Guard's Home: Figure in Male Prostitution Ring Linked to Late Night Tours (AP

7-7-89 via Los Angeles Times archive)
http://articles.latimes.com/1989-07-07/news/mn-3571_1_white-house-tour

That reflects the reliable sensationalism and misdirection of the MSM at that time. These were children-and not just males, as Alisha Owens and others spoke about to Nebraska and federal investigators (the chief Nebraska investigator was Gary Caradori-I apologize for misspelling his name in OP)

Alisha Owens Statement (November 1989 pdf)
http://franklinscandal.com/links/sOwens_11_7_89.pdf

[MuseRider]

2. Rec'd and bookmarked

for later when I can spend the time to read and actually think!

Thank you bobthedrummer, I am always happy to see you when you post.

[bobthedrummer]

3. Hello old friend!

Here's a Gary Caradori link
http://crimesofempire.com/tag/gary-caradori

Btw, there is a state and federal John Doe probe of Wisconsin's Lincoln Hills juvenile facility underway here. But that's another story.

[MuseRider]

5. Oooh thank you!

I remember these threads. Ahh the days when discussion went on and on without anybody needing to come in and call you a dope! Well, at least most of the time

Oddly there is a family name here. I must have missed it the first time or I would have investigated it just to know myself if there is a connection family wise.

It may not be until after the first of the year before I can settle in and do this over again. I want to but as you know Mr. Drummer, it is the season for musicians to do nothing but rehearse and play gigs. I am off now to practice for the next set of rehearsals. Thank you. I have forgotten a lot but I read all of these threads back in the day. Somehow being mostly retired and the kids gone I have less time to do that now!

Thank you. Have a great year end bobthedrummer!

[bobthedrummer]

4. The Franklin Case Timeline (franklincase.org)

http://www.franklincase.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11&Itemid=9

[bobthedrummer]

6. I absolutely believe that Craig J. Spence threw some parties that were attended by powerful people.

I believe those that spoke about them, particularly the children who were victimized and those that became their advocates.

I believe that the guests at Mr. Spence's swank DC penthouse included politicians, high ranking military from several nations and intelligence services just as many people described to investigators at that time.

A simple question: why did a lot of people, including Mr. Spence, die "mysteriously" or were silenced in other ways to not discuss what was being "discovered" at that time? Where have we, the people seen similar patterns in both the world as well as in our own history?

Well, here's a link to a current resource to establish the fact that children should be believed when they speak about evil.
Bishop Accountability
http://bishop-accountability.org

Wikipedia does have some useful tools for those of US that are interested in the blowback from this cover-up that continue.
Talk: Franklin child prostitution ring allegations/ Archive 1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:_Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations/Archive_1

Otoh, not so much about Mr. Craig J. Spence (Wikipedia entry)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_J._Spence

I'm sure that most of US prefer facts-I don't get all hung-up anymore about the sources or "political correctness"-just want the truth that people who were murdered for speaking the truth about criminal conspiracies that continue to the present.

Below is another link you may find helpful before DU goes offline for a few days.

The Washington Child Sex Ring Coverup (Vox News)
http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_child_sex_coverup/franklin.htm

Add to this thread people.

[bobthedrummer]

7. Well, it's Bill of Rights Day 2015 and this thread needs more participation, a lot more. n/t

[bobthedrummer]

8. I spoke to DUer Andy Stephenson several times-remember him? He was a contributor to the first link

in this post-Tom Flocco's investigative article about the blowback from the Franklin Credit "scandal"--I am thankful for those phone conversations with Andy, (as well as with other DUers past and present) we shared a lot of info that was methodically ridiculed at one time, yet remains absolutely true.

Bless the Beasts and the Children (Tom Flocco March 13, 2005)
http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/PhotographerTied.htm

If you love the truth you will seek it out regardless of where it is located, or the politics of who wrote it. You can always learn something that you didn't know while it is still available from open sources if you have the ability to disregard your own biases.

Lawrence E. King Jr: Overachiever (Gordon Duff February 8, 2015 Veterans Today)
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/02/08/lawrence-e-king-jr-overachiever

The link below is derived from the work of John DeCamp by an investigative journalist from a younger generation that was published in April. There is a wealth of truth within it.

Lest We Forget: A Story Of Child Abuse, Satanism & Injustice (Matt James April 2, 2015 Collective Evolution)
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/04/02/lest-we-forget-a-story-of-child-abuse-satanism-injustice

Add to this thread about the blowback from the Franklin cover-up.

[bobthedrummer]

9. Another DU thread worth reviewing today in the context of blowback: The Franklin Cover-up (1-11-2005

hang a left)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2935337

Add to this thread-this is dedicated to the real reality based community of DU.

[bobthedrummer]

10. In this link John DeCamp dedicated his work to his good friend William Colby former DCI that also

passed away under mysterious circumstances (Colby also was a CIA administrator for the PHOENIX assassination program). DeCamp introduces us to Father, later Monsignor, Robert Hupp who was a genuine reformer of Boys Town and a strong advocate for survivors of child trafficking and related crimes. Msgr. Hupp also met a mysterious death in Mauston, Wisconsin. Lots of mysterious deaths involved in these crimes related to the blowback of the Franklin cover-up.

The Franklin, Nebraska Cover-up (John DeCamp)
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/conspiracy/coverups/decamp.html

Below is another related article about Boys Town from 1978.

Father Robert Hupp Shines Up Boys Town's Tarnished Image-and Even Makes Room for Girls (Frank W. Martin July 10, 1978 People magazine archive)
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20071238,00.html

Let's continue to document and discuss the blowback from the Franklin CONSPIRACY and its relevance to today, what do you say, DU?

[Doctor_J]

11. I started that book last week after someone posted a link

what a sewer.

[bobthedrummer]

13. No accountability at all, is there? n/t

[Doctor_J]

15. None. The rules that the 99.99% live by are not even on their radar.

IMO if we could somehow get to the bottom of 9/11, that particular dynasty would be over with. But the culture of oligarchy that we've become is going to be really hard to get out of

[yurbud]

12. some things about the elite are so deeply disturbing they don't even register with normal people

It's like the brain eating scene in HANNIBAL it was so over the top that it didn't register as horror.

So it goes with the private appetites of our jaded elites.

[Doctor_J]

14. indeed. They are practically a different species

They are definitely their own separate culture, with entirely different rules and customs.

[bobthedrummer]

16. If this doesn't "register with normal people", yurbud, I'd say its because of the lack of knowledge,

and accountability. This elite subscribes to Orwellian frameworks like Ignorance is Strength (actually it's the product of MK ULTRA/MK SEARCH, Office of Strategic Influence, etc) allowing the blowback to continue to the present day-as well as DENIAL led by professional DENIERS.

It is horrifying and needs rebroadcasting until there is some movement towards JUSTICE.

[bobthedrummer]

17. When you've got people like William Casey attending some of those Craig Spence "parties", people

like Don Gregg, people like William Colby warning John DeCamp to not pursue Franklin leads, people like Gary Caradori being blown-up along with his son-well, this is just part of the ongoing darkness of the blowback.

What a "coincidence" that both of the APA's (American Psychological Association; American Psychiatric Association) have members that are torturers today, as well as quite a history with the US intelligence community "researching" national security projects in the neurosciences-the most infamous being various sub-projects from MK ULTRA/MK SEARCH.

Consider that William Casey, while being "examined" in his CIA office suffered a condition that left him unable to reply to the Congressional inquiry into Iran/Contra. Consider how William Colby "drowned". Consider that Gary Caradori was concerned about attempts on his life, etc. etc.

Well, here are some more links to consider in the context of what Alisha Owen and Paul Bonacci made statements about decades ago. Btw, Paul Bonacci was awarded $1M by a federal court judge February 19, 1999 in his case against Lawrence King (Nebraska 4:CV91-3037) as well as passing numerous polygraph exams.

Robert Wadman was the former Chief of Omaha Police, for those that have reviewed some of the links so far.

Robert Wadman's Perjury Party (Alex Constantine September 24, 2008)
http://www.constantinereport.com/robert-wadmans-perjury-party

Many children and adults have testified/reported being ritually abused by powerful groups and individuals to agencies that are supposed to protect them.

Problems for Victims of Ritual Abuse in San Diego: Opinion Piece Submitted to the San Diego Union-Tribune September 29, 2000 by Ellen Lacter, PhD
http://endritualabuse.org/activism/problems-for-victims-of-ritual-abuse-in-san-diego

The "Conspiracy" Against Michael Aquino-Satanic Pedophile (Anthony Forwood February 11, 2014)
http://exposinginfragard.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-case-against-michael-aquino-satanic.html

Kick for further discussion.

[Mc Mike]

18. Looks like 'The Process Umbrella Cult'. rec. Thanks, bob. nt

[bobthedrummer]

19. Appearances mean nothing in the dark grand game, as you know Mc Mike. Here are some more Franklin

blowback links worthy of reading for those of US that love the truth that many have died working to broadcast to we, the people.

Children are truthful, aren't they? If not, why not???

Donald P. Gregg (Spartacus Educational)
http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKgreggD.htm

Jeb Bush and the Murder of CIA Drug Smuggler Barry Seal in 1986 (Rober Morrow March 14, 2015)
http://barrysealmurder1986jebbusholivernorth.blogspot.com/2015/03/was-richard-thornburgh-being-provided.html

Add to this thread DUers.

[Mc Mike]

21. Some Aquino stuff:

Aquino and the Presidio Army base child sex abuse cover up:

http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/aquino01.htm

"Among the items seized were video tapes, cassette tapes, notebooks with names and addresses, two photo albums one paper plate and two plastic gloves from the kitchen garbage, four plastic cases of negatives and 29 photos of costumes and masks. With his widow's peak and arching eyebrows, Lt Col. Michael Aquino looks more like a pudgy Dracula than a high ranking Army officer with top security clearance. He is the founder and high priest of a satanic church, the Temple of Set. His wife, Lilith, a gaunt woman with long, dark hair, is a priestess in the temple's Order of the Vampyre. The couple refer to the search as a "raid" and have branded the investigation a witch hunt.

"The Army has known about my religion for the last 18 years and has no problem," Aquino told me in a telephone interview late last year. "Not one single person in the US. Army, with the exception of the chaplain, would have the remotest notion that I would be involved in anything like this."

Indeed, Army spokesmen at the Pentagon label his military career as "extraordinary" and say he is entitled to his religious beliefs. As for his top security clearance, they say his openness about being a satanist makes him much less of a security risk than a homosexual or someone with drug or money problems would be.

The Army did not suspend his clearance when he joined the Church of Satan, founded by Anton LaVey, in 1969. Nor when Aquino founded his own satanic church in 1975. Nor when Aquino while on a NATO tour of Europe in 1982 performed a satanic ritual in the Westphalian castle that had been used as an occult sanctuary by Heinrich Himmler's SS elite in Nazi Germany. Nor did the Army move to suspend Aquino's top security clearance during the sex abuse investigation. "The nature of the investigation that prompted the search of his house, and I understand some of his belongings were taken by police, really is a question for the San Francisco Police Department," Maj. Greg Rixon, spokesman at the Pentagon said Aquino, who now works as a program analyst at the Army Reserve Personnel Center in St Louis, has vehemently denied ever meeting or having in his house the young girl who has alleged he abused her. He unsuccessfully tried to have court martial proceedings initiated against Adams-Thompson."

Mae Brussell on "Contra Cocaine connection" cover up and Aquino child abuse cover up:

http://maebrussell.com/Bibliography%20Sheets/853s2%20photo.html

"Connections of Cocaine into San Francisco, weapons to Contras, the Col. Ollie North operations, and the dropping of all charges in the Michael Aquino Presidio child molestation cases. Dealer's testimony to Sen. John Kerry blocked, Justice Dept. says Wenate appearance jeapordizes prosecution of Carlos Cabezas, Bay cocaine case -- San Fran Examiner, 4/5/88.

1983 San Francisco trial of Cabezas and E. Campos, evidence of profits from cocaine going to fund Contras found. $36 thousand in drug money mailed by U.S. attorney Joseph P. Russoneillo in San Francisco to John Hull's Costa Rican contra faction. Ollie North planned the fund diversion with William Casey of the CIA.

'Nightmare At the Presidio', Channel #2, Sunday 4/10/88 One hour on molestation cases. Section on Michael Aquino, still being investigated for 'Child Stealing, Child Neglect, Child Abuse, molestations and rapes'. No prosecution for Aquino, and all charges against Gary Hambright dropped by U.S. attorney Joseph P. Russoniello. 50 - 100 children abused, the D.A. completely ignored their accounts."

Connections between The Process Umbrella Cult, Manson, Son of Sam, and Presidio/Aquino:

http://truthontatelabianca.com/threads/dave-emory-speaks.36/

"Now last week, one of the things that I mentioned was that *this*
week we were going to begin looking at the Presidio child
molestation case, against the background of the "satanic"
activities of The Process, the umbrella cult which is strongly
implicated in the Son of Sam killings as well as the Manson group
killings.

Now this past week, that Presidio child molestation case has
broken wide open. I mean, it has *exploded*. And we're gonna be
talking about that case, that... At the time, last Sunday, I had
a hunch that the Presidio child molestation case would intersect
with *The Ultimate Evil*, with the umbrella cult of Satanists.
And again, the "Satanist" cult is simply a cover. While the jerks
that are used at the operational level *believe* in that, in
point of fact the satanic activities serve to mask much more,
shall we say "terrestrial" activities, such as kiddie porn,
prostitution, the making of "snuff flicks" (films in which
someone is actually killed on film, usually in a sexual context),
drug smuggling, gun running, political assassination, and
activities more befitting the intelligence organization that The
Process, basically, appears to be.

...

His pale face and eyebrows that snap upward like the horns of
the Devil and shiny black hair shaped into a permanent
widow's peak over his forehead make Michael Aquino look more
like a 1930s actor playing dracula than what he claims to be
-- Satan's earthly lieutenant, the Prince of Darkness [CN --
Note: the "Prince" himself recently posted a follow-up to an
earlier portion of this series].

He was a wacko to many who saw him at the Presidio officers
club, wearing the black shirt and clerical collar with the
satanic medallion around his neck. To those who know
Lieutenant Colonel Aquino as one of the Army's experts on
psychological warfare, he is more of a scarey enigma."

[bobthedrummer]

25. His military career was mostly Defense Intelligence Agency/DIA related-and, yes, I've talked to vets

that remember the midnight bus to the Black Masses he and others held in SF. The DIA encouraged all kinds of stuff indeed. The they called it "intelligence" and classified it.

DIA Declassified: A Sourcebook (The National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book 534 November 2015)
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB534-DIA-Declassified-Sourcebook

[bobthedrummer]

46. Last year Jon Rappoport posted a well researched article about MK ULTRA/MK SEARCH related projects

And many individuals, groups and agencies connected to the blowback from Franklin have connections to these intelligence/military projects that are largely privatized now.

CIA mind-control program: did it really end? (Jon Rappoport January 9,, 2015)
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2015/01/09/cia-mind-control-program-did-it-really-end

The crimes involved in the Franklin blowback include murder-for which no statute of limitations exists. Sometimes the guilty have been put in various "Witness Protection" programs.

[bobthedrummer]

20. "Spence was involved in pandering children, pandering adults, blackmailing powerbrokers, procuring

illicit drugs, etc..." (Henry W. Vinson May 7, 2015 post How to indict a ham sandwich on Confessions of a D.C. Madam website)

Pandering??? How about using rape, torture and the entire catalog of methods of ritual abuse on human children to create a national security special product that can be marketed or leased?

I know that there are some DUers past and present that are deniers of ritual abuse, for whatever personal reasons. Ritual abuse exists, even in our "exceptional" nation. Paul Bonacci, Alisha Owen and many other survivors and their allies are all on record about this fact.

S.M.A.R.T. Ritual Abuse page
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse

Ever hear of the Hersha sisters, Cheryl and Lynn? I believe their basic stories about being made into Secret Weapons.

Secret Weapons Quotes (excerpts posted on Goodreads.com)
https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/984543-secret-weapons-how-two-sisters-were-brainwashed-to-kill-for-their-count

For those of you that love the truth here are some of the documents from the era of MK ULTRA/MK SEARCH that support the "allegations" of so many survivors and advocates (Cryptome.org)
http://cryptome.org/mkultra-0001.htm

Add to this thread about the blowback from the Franklin cover-up this weekend.

[Mika]

22. The Franklin Film - Conspiracy of Silence (youtube playlist of documentary)

CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE - PLAYLIST
by THE FRANKLIN FILM 7 videos

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6C6BEA317DCD11C0

[bobthedrummer]

23. On Christmas Day 12-25-1989 Larry King associate Curtis Turner fell/or was pushed

from an Omaha Holiday Inn window, causing his death.

There have been many deaths involving people associated with Franklin cover-up figures over the years.
Disappearing witnesses-Suspicious Deaths Associated With Franklin (Facebook permalink 2014)
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=529221740524143&id=274826519297001

Dennis Hastert was a coach and teacher in Illinois when Larry King was flying boys and girls to be used as sex objects by many prominent powerful people in places beyond Omaha-including Chicago. Mr. Hastert deserves a mention in this thread as the blowback from Franklin continues.

Hastert's Senior Staff Asked "To Intervene" Three Years Ago (October 4, 2006 Think Progress)
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2006/10/04/7864/hastert-warned

Hastert Allegations Open Window To History Of Satanic Ritual Abuse Of Children (Brandon Turbeville June 24, 2015 Before It's News)
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/06/hastert-allegations-open-window-to-history-of-satanic-ritual-abuse-of-children-3175174.html

No one made any of this up. Yet there hasn't been any real justice for so many-and those of US concerned about this continuing cover-up need as many navigation tools as possible like Nick Bryant's Webs Of Corruption link at Franklin Scandal.com
http://www.franklinscandal.com/franklinscandal_wocinfo.html

Thanks to all that have contributed to this so far-add to it DU.

[bobthedrummer]

24. Gary Caradori had a list of leads that he shared with others involved in the investigation before he

and his son died when his airplane exploded. It is December 23rd 2015 and this list is highly valuable for many reasons.
Gary Caradori's Lead List (pdf)
http://franklinscandal.com/links/Full.Caradori_sLeadList.pdf

Below are several more Franklin cover-up blowback threads. Add your posts to this thread DUers.

Men Who Hate Women: The Franklin Scandal and the Truth About Our Leaders (October 10, 2011 Harrison Koehli)
http://www.sott.net/article/236161-Men-Who-Hate-Women-The-Franklin-Scandal-and-the-Truth-About-Our-Leaders

Still Evil After All These Years: The Franklin Scandal and Pedophilia in High Places (September 10,2012 Charles M. Young)
http://thiscantbehappening.net/node/1315

The Franklin Scandal: The Elite Child Abuse Ring in Nebraska (March 17, 2014 The People's History)
http://www.thepeopleshistory.net/2014/03/the-franklin-scandal-elite-child-abuse.html

[Mc Mike]

26. Thanks for all the links in this o.p. and sub-posts.

I don't have a lot more info to add to the specific Franklin issue, but there's a lot of things I remember, brought to mind by the info in your links.

Halliburton also had a child sex slave importation scandal, along with Blackwater. Unfortunately, they aren't on the repug party's 'de-fund' list, unlike ACORN was (is?) after Pimpy O'Keefe's lying videos pretended that ACORN was involved in a child prostitution scandal. http://www.childtrafficking.org/cgi-bin/ct/main.sql?file=view_news.sql&ID=2642&FULL_DETAIL=Yes

Wasn't drug addict repug mouthpiece Limbaugh implicated in foreign underage kid sex tourism?

Penn State's big mouthed repug coach Joe Paterno stood by and did nothing while his assistant coach molested kids, because 'football'. Sandusky was involved in an organization that 'served' at risk, uncared for children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_State_child_sex_abuse_scandal

The Franklin Credit rip off reminded me of the looting of the Savings and Loans, which Raygun and Poppy bush both let happen. And their backers benefitted from the multi billion dollar thefts.

Stieg Larrson had more "Men Who Hate Women" books in him when he died, and his third one made it clear that the ex-KGB bad guy, whose child prostitution and drug running crimes were allowed by Swedish Intel, produced no useful intel for the Swedes, but was useful to their allies in US intel.

Whitey Bulger and MK Ultra: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/07/07/i-team-whitey-bulger-volunteered-for-lsd-testing-while-in-prison-in-1950s/

Some of the strange audio tapes they played on a loop for drugged MK Ultra experimental subjects, discussing the existence of evil spirits.

Skull and Bones's strange occult practices, and sexual overtones in their initiation rites.

The occult overtones and death worship in the Third Reich. Reich religious minister Alfred Rosenberg's cultish gnostic Catharism practices. The victims of the Holocaust weren't marched to their death like zombies, but their minds were controlled in a social-psychological manner, so millions died without doing anything (though there were a good number of spectacular uprisings in Warsaw, Auschwitz, Sobibor, Treblinka, Belsen.) Prescott bush's buddies John McCloy and Allen Dulles helped smuggle a lot of nazi war criminals to safety and jobs in US intel. Not just rocket scientists and Gehlen and Skorzeny's 'Russia expert' agents, but a lot of death camp guards. What kind of 'expertise' did those torturers and murderers contribute to our intel agency?

One of your links fingers Tony Blair's wife as being involved in some non-standard sexual encounters with multiple people. Polanski's movie about Blair ("The Ghost Writer&quot had the Mrs. Blair character being in the CIA, and behind Blair's disastrous decision to back l'il bush's Iraq War catastrophe. Polanski is wanted for extradition on charges of 'child sex abuse', and I recall his wife's murderer telling the parole board what he would do if released, stating "I have some friends in France that I want to catch up with".

I know the preceeding paragraphs subjects are all over the place, free form. Just brought to mind by a lot of your links. The question for me is whether these bad powerful people abuse kids as a means (to break their minds, so they can be re-formed), or whether the abuse of the kids is an end in itself, an expression of the baddies' 'power', they're revelling in their 'power'. Or they commit evil acts because they worship evil, and it's the 'job' (calling, vocation) of evil people to commit evil acts. Maybe a little from column A, a little from column B, a little from column C.

[Mc Mike]

27. PS:

The right wing Moonie Washington Times breaking the White House call boy scandal doesn't mean the scandal didn't occur. But Moon is linked into the CIA, and practices mind-control on his own followers. I wonder what was the cause of this story originating from that source. Extortion? Moon was pissed off about a double cross? Different right wing factions within the Agency slugging it out?

I remember that there were no hard feelings from Poppy bush toward Moon:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2148232

[bobthedrummer]

28. Some Christmas 2015 gift links and questions regarding the blowback from the Franklin cover-up

First, a few facts from & for the real DU reality-based community:
1. Prior to and after WWII there were many "scientific/technology" reliant secret societies (example, The Thule Society) that shared the same fundamental goal of covertly controlling human beings that Cold War intelligence/military "researchers" pursued.

2. The technologies revealed by some whistleblowers and publicized (WikiLeaks, Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden, etc) match many of the claims of not only the children that were abused/used in the Franklin cover-up, but of most of the survivors of non-consensual human experimentation.

Specifically, the expanded range from nanotech to satellite tracking and targeting, radio frequency and microwave tracking and control devices, synthetic telepathy (voices in one's head) as well as the entire stock of the world's pharmacies and psychoactive substances, plus whatever else is operational to produce the desired "goals"-this is 2015's reality.

3. There are many groups composed of targeted individuals and their advocates, people who have experienced and survived being non-consensual human test subjects often as vulnerable children (like those in Boys Town and fostercare) that are ridiculed when they speak out by groups often led by PhDed pedophiles, perverts and torturers shielded by "national security".

4. Some "medical experiments" of the Third Reich were continued here and nearby (US and Canada, the Southern Cone, etc) to fight against godless communism, now terrorist religious fundamentalists. For instance, the neurosurgeon Dr. Maitland BALDWIN performed all kinds of "rewiring" and was fine with "terminal" research for the CIA-including his proposal to replicate the transplanting of simian heads with the heads of human beings. One can only imagine what Cold War medical research went on in "uncivilized" domains, right?

Below are yet a few more threads related to the Franklin cover-up blowback and this post.

Targeted Individuals websites
Peace Pink
http://peacepink.ning.com

Lissakr11 Humane
http://lissakr11humane.com

Targeted In America
http://www.targetedinamerica.com/hitlist.html

Behavior Control History resources
The Search for the Manchurian Candidate (John Marks)
Chapter 8:Brainwashing (DrugLibrary archives) ps-the footnotes are highly informative
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks8.htm

International Committee On Offensive Microwave Weapons Archives Index (mostly scrubbed in the land of the free today)
http://www.icomw.org/archives/index.asp

Add to this thread people.

[bobthedrummer]

29. 4 more links from 4 highly disparate sources regarding the Franklin Cover-Up's blowback for those of

US that love the truth regardless of where it's found. Here is a very simple true statement (horrible, but true) human beings have been ritualistically abused and sacrificed throughout all history to the present day.

I believe what Paul Bonacci, Alisha Owen and others have stated, that places like Bohemian Grove "honor" that horrible history.

The links below support and contain more factual truth about Franklin and the blowback and should be reviewed in that context.

Wolves In Sheep's Clothing: Chapter 7 The Franklin Cover-Up/Bohemian Grove ( April 2008 repost & comment MurkyNews Blog)
http://themurkynews.blogspot.com/2008/04/chapter-six-closer-look-at-bush-family.html

America's Greatest Child Sex Scandal: Boys Town in Lincoln, Nebraska (December 29, 2012 Tim King Salem News)
http://salem-news.com/articles/december292012/boys-town-scandal-tk.php

I have a friend from Minnesota whose father attended a Bohemian Grove event one time as a guest. He was a retired high ranking USAF officer that went into the powerboat industry. There is a USAF AFB that bears the family name. What my friend confided to me about what her dad said supports a lot of things discussed in this thread too.

Bohemian Grove Guest List 2008 (WikiLeaks)
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove_Guest_List_2008

A Guide to the Bohemian Grove (Julian Sanction April 30, 2009 Vanity Fair)
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2009/05/bohemian-grove-guide200905

Your posts are requested in this thread DUers.

[bobthedrummer]

30. 2 more links for today about the Franklin Credit cover-up and its blowback. Members of DU's LGBT

community, past and present, always had more nuanced knowledge of this topic-add to this thread today DUers.


Why do people say such TERRIBLE things about the Bush Family? (Minstrel Boy September 4, 2004 DU)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2309425

(ORIGINAL RESEARCH) The Mountain of Evidence for a Massive International Pedophile Ring Protected by Police and Intelligence Agencies (LawOfAttraction33 2013)
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1cm0t3

[bobthedrummer]

31. "I guess Tulane was the worst, where I would receive intensive electric shock, isolation for days,

sleep deprivation where they would attach electrodes to me and if I started to fall asleep, they would shock me-enough to wake me up. You couldn't sleep for days. The messages would start: 'Your mother doesn't love you, she left you here. Your mother doesn't want you, you are too much trouble for her. You are an evil child, you want to hurt people. You want to entice men'..." Claudia S. Mullen speaking of some of her childhood experiences in a radio interview after appearing before Congress in 1995.

I find much corroboration/support of what Bonacci and Owen and many others have stated over the years in the link below. Btw, there were more than 80 institutions and agencies involved in the CIA's neuroscience sub-programs in things like MK ULTRA/MK SEARCH etc.
U.S. Government-Sponsored Mind Control and Tulane University (1995 TulaneLink.com archive)
http://www.tulanelink.com/mind/interview_04a.htm

On a more recent related note to Franklin blowback, check this out.
" On an otherwise routine July day, inside a laboratory at Duke University..."
This is Your Brain. This is Your Brain as a Weapon. (Tim Requarth September 14, 2015 Foreign Policy)
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/09/14/this-is-your-brain-this-is-your-brain-as-a-weapon-darpa-dual-use-neuroscience

Add to this thread DU.

[bobthedrummer]

32. "...other police officials said they included kidnapping or SOME TYPE OF INTERNATIONAL MARKET FOR

CHILDREN." This quote is from the link below from February 1987, about The Finders case, which was promptly shutdown by the US intelligence community.
Inquiry Spreads On 6 Children And Cult (Richard Halloran 2-8-87 New York Times)
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/02/08/us/inquiry-spreads-on-6-children-and-cult.html

The same characteristics and crimes reported by survivors and others in the Franklin cover-up including real intervention by powerful agencies that effectively stopped law enforcement investigations are repeated in what we, the people can glean from The Finders case.
FBI Dropping Investigation Of Washington Commune (Jane Cawley 2-13-87 Chicago Tribune)
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1987-02-13/news/8701110922_1_sexual-abuse-finders-mothers

The Bush CIA Controlled A Ritual Child Abuse Cult (VoxfuxNYC archive)
http://www.voxfux.com/features/cia_child_sex.html

I hope you are all learning from this thread-add to it DU and guests. DU needs people like Andy again, doesn't it?

[bobthedrummer]

33. Children Under Attack: A Culture of Unpunished Exploitation Part 1&2 (December 2011 Political Gates

posts by Nomad/Ed Dylan Goff) Wow, there are so many researchers that clearly have connected the blowback from the Franklin cover-up, yet there remains no real accountability, does there? The links below are not theory.

Children Under Attack Part 1
http://politicalgates.blogspot.com/2011/12/children-under-attack-culture-of.html

Children Under Attack Part 2
http://politicalgates.blogspot.com/2011/12/children-under-attack-culture-of_09.html

Your informed participation is a requirement of democracy citizen DUers.

[bobthedrummer]

34. "In 2010 the Huffington Post released an article on a problem that gets little attention in the main

-stream press; one that if you do your research into it, you will uncover a monster so vile it makes you shudder."

Tag Larry E. King

Evil Secrets: Pedophilia in the Highest Levels of Washington, DC. (August 8, 2014 cut2thetruth)
https://cut2thetruth.wordpress.com/tag/larry-e-king

Thank you Olan Thomas & friends for your work about the blowback from Omaha.

There hasn't been a single post deleted in this thread because the facts are so incredible, at first.

So what's preventing you, my knowledgeable about Franklin blowback fellow DUers, from adding to what we have here to date???

[bobthedrummer]

35. San Diego's East County Magazine is a non-profit that ran a Book Review of The Franklin Scandal by

Dennis Moore in May 2010 that was augmented by commentary that is right at home in this thread from the heart of the real DU reality-based community.

Book Review: The Franklin Scandal (Dennis Moore 2010)
http://eastcountymagazine.org/book-review-franklin-scandal

It's time to add your voice to this thread, dear DU brothers and sisters that love the truth. Today.

[bobthedrummer]

36. An intelligence failure is when the truth is concealed from those seeking it, right? Donald Gregg

was Poppy Bush's intelligence aide, Poppy had been a DCI, and I, for one, am sick of using euphemisms ("dirty tricks, black ops" etc.) and all the accumulated mind programmed self-censorship routines that have protected the many evils of the elite.

Here are a few more Franklin cover-up blowback links for those of us that love the truth and the rule of law.

From Dave Emory here is an August 5, 2001 entry on SpitFire List.
FTR #318 Kidding Around: Child Molestation and Pedophilia in the GOP
http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-318-kidding-around-child-molestation-and-pedophilia-in-the-gop

Donald Gregg (October 6, 2009 Rigorous Intuition)
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=25374&hilit=Donald+Gregg

From a French website Donde Vamos posted July 26, 2014
In France too, Satanists slaughter children...
http://dondevamos.canalblog.com/archives/2014/07/26/30313823.html

William Casey, William Colby, G.H.W.Bush and many others from the intelligence community are part of the continuing blowback from Franklin cover-up.

I'm certain DUers have the intelligence to post in this thread on this last day of 2015.

[bobthedrummer]

37. "This is the second part in an examination of child sex rings in the United States, as well as its

Last edited Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:16 PM - Edit history (2)

ties to the US intelligence community, drug trafficking and Satanism." (May 11, 2011 VISUP)

I found the money laundering section, as well as the links through the Agency during the Vietnam War between King and Spence, to be valuable regardless of all else. Alfred McCoy's "The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia" confirmed again imo and experience.

Witch Trafficking Part II
http://visupview.blogspot.com/2011/05/witch-traffickng-part-ii.html

Join the real DU reality-based community on this first day of 2016 and post in this thread for starters.

on edit: fixed link

[bobthedrummer]

38. "Your research has focused on Omaha, but this whole sex ring involving Larry King and Boys Town

extends nationwide, all the way to Washington and involves the CIA and parts of the military."

The Franklin Cover-Up (Phil Jayhan April 17, 2005 Lets Roll Forums)
http://letsrollforums.com/franklin-cover-up-t5454.html

So who is with me on continuing to seek the truth about the blowback from this criminal cover-up that has gone on for decades?

It is almost beyond belief-yet it is true. We go to some mighty dark places, some that STILL exist as CORRUPTED foundations of our society.

George H.W. Bush appointed Judge Richard George Kopf into the Federal Court system, Kopf had interceded in the multiple investigations of Larry King by sending King off to a psychiatric facility. Kopf became a Senior Judge, he also blogged on his recently closed website Hercules And The Umpire
http://wednesdaywiththedecentlyprofane.me

To me and others I network with, some of Judge Kopf's posts resembled the results of another MK ULTRA/MK SEARCH sub-project subject in some ways too, just as much as the tortured, drugged and raped children that survived.

If you are with me in following ALL possible leads to discover the truth and make some movement towards justice post your own contribution to this thread-regardless of all else.

Next post from me will be about some of the support crew of Larry E. King, like the BMW/Harley Davidson dealerships around the Beltway that "hired" him after his release from prison.

[bobthedrummer]

39. In 1988 Tom Moorehead opened Sentry Buick/Isuzu in Omaha, the first black owned dealership there.

I don't quite know what to make of the connection between Thomas Moorehead, a tremendously successful and wealthy person of color, and Lawrence E. King who hung out at some of Moorehead's Beltway establishments and with some of Moorehead's employees after King's release from a Colorado prison and a move back to the DC area.

I don't believe in coincidence when it comes to the blowback from Franklin. Check out these links related to this aspect of the continuing story that is almost unbelievable upon first hearing.

Biographical data paints one picture of Moorehead as an American success story-hard work, education, blah,blah,blah

Moorehead Keeps "Moving on UP" (Zenitha Prince March 8, 2014 Baltimore AFRO American repost on Kappa Alpha Psi)
http://www.epkapsi.org/2014/03/congratulations-brother-thomas-morehead

Philanthropy to "poor" gifted kids and those working with them-oh where have we heard this before in this thread?

The Joyce & Thomas Moorehead Foundation
http://www.themooreheadfoundation.org/about-the-mooreheads

Tom also owns a DC Harley Davidson dealership with some of the management connected to the biker world and other stuff that doesn't make any sense to Tom's ties to the AME religion

DC Harley Davidson Dealership Sponsoring Nation of Islam Rally (September 3, 2015 AmericanBikerTalkRadio.com)
http://www.americanbikertalkradio.com/_blog/Biker_News/post/dc-harley-davidson-dealership-sponsoring-nation-of-islam-rally

Conspicuous consumption alone isn't enough to forge a bond of some type between Larry King and Tom Moorehead, is it??

The Franklin blowback gets even creepier with more research.

[bobthedrummer]

40. January 2016 has been designated as human trafficking awareness month in the United States by tptb.

Take some time with the 3 links below. As always, your posts are encouraged.

Thirty Years After Missing Child Johnny Gosch Vanished Volunteers Relive Case (Emily Schettler September 4, 2012 Des Moines Register)
http://archive.desmoinesregister.com/article/20120904/NEWS01/309040025/Thirty-years-after-missing-child-Johnny-Gosch-vanished-volunteers-relive-case

Film Chronicles Johnny Gosch's Mother's Search For The Truth (Micah Mertes July 6, 2015 Omaha World Herald{!})
http://www.omaha.com/go/film-chronicles-johnny-gosch-s-mother-s-search-for-the/article_4e61d248-5252-5062-a8c9-ccbcf9f9c7d0.html

Johnny Gosch-Reblog Volume II (December 14, 2012 Clandestine Rage Revealed)
https://clandestineragerevealed.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/johnny-gosch

[bobthedrummer]

41. "The primary factor for trauma-based mind control is the ability to disassociate." Cross culturally

confirmed, present in hidden (occult) history, also part and parcel of the Franklin blowback. The accounts of so many survivors and whistle-blowers include other personalities created by trauma and controlled/activated via various "keys/triggers".

Fwiw, take a look at the Wikipedia entry on Dissociative Identity Disorder/DID.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder

Some longtime DUers/other interested parties may have screenshots of my postings when I was trying to fight my own programming. Yep. I was quite a mess then. Know what I mean people?

[bobthedrummer]

42. Fwiw there are so many contradictory statements about DID, an aspect of the blowback from Franklin,

that I'll just link to a few of them on this foggy Friday afternoon in LaCrosse, hopefully some of you will participate in this discussion.

Questioning Dissociative Identity Disorder & Multiple Personalities (Mental Health Matters 2015)
https://mentalhealthmatters2.wordpress.com

False Memory Net
http://falsememory.net

A page from DYSGENICS (11-9-2013)
http://www.dysgenics.com/tag/avalon-malibu-treatment-center

Australia, many "missionaries" are still sent there
http://pedophilesdownunder.com

One thing is certain-all these behavioral changing/shaping techniques (hypnosis, est, surgery, drugs, trauma, etc) work on human beings, especially children.

Who do you believe when your belief system has been manufactured, DU?

[niyad]

43. k and r and bookmarking for later (with suficient caffeine or alcohol)

[bobthedrummer]

44. I've posted more than once in this thread with freely flowing tears niyad. I know it can trigger

others in many ways.

The CIA declassified further portions of a training manual in 2014, an instructional aid that people like Robert Wadman (former Omaha Police Chief accused by several of the cover-up survivors of sexual assault and torture) may have used as a reference work when he was training police all over the world for George H.W. BUSH.

Here is a link to some of that KUBARK manual in the context of the "allegations" of so many, as well as the career connections to the Agency by others.

KUBARK (April 8, 2014 MuckRock.com)
https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2014/apr/08/cia-declassifies-additional-portions-kubark-interr

And let's post some declassified MK ULTRA docs for good measure, in the same context of the Franklin blowback and in the spirit of the real DU reality-based community.

MK ULTRA Declassified Documents (archived MichaelRobinett.com)
http://web.archive.org/web/20130210215221/http://www.michael-robinett.com/declass/c000.htm

[bobthedrummer]

45. Who else loves the truth wherever it is found today? Post the truth in this thread. n/t

[bobthedrummer]

47. The Franklin Coverup Scandal: The Child sex ring that reached Bush/Reagan Whitehouse (villager DU

November 10, 2011)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2279037

C'mon Duers-post.

[bobthedrummer]

48. There are so many components to this, aren't there? Components that are vastly expanded today.

The black budget: where children are still marketed-BCCI had its day as a lender and laundry for the networks of Larry E. King et. al

B.C.C.I: The Scandals Behind The Scandal (Martin A. Lee September 1, 1991 FAIR)
http://fair.org/extra-online-articles/b-c-c-i-the-scandals-behind-the-scandal

BCCI: The Dirtiest Bank of All (Time article) [rollingrock October 19, 2009 DU]
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6811972

For those who have reviewed the links, so far, remember the pillars of society that were named by some of the survivors (Lisa Webb, Alisha Owen, Paul Bonacci and others) that passed multiple polygraph exams about their accounts-and the many others who died "untimely" deaths?

Below is a link to the Alan and Marcia Baer Foundation which was inducted into The Lucas Society in 2009.
http://unomaha.edu/college-of-business-administration/lucas-profiles-and-directory/baer.php

Then there were all the Omaha World Herald individuals, including the owner and the society columnist, that mingled with the kids and USAF, etc. bigwigs all over the map. I can't understand why so many of you aren't contributing to this thread, especially since you did post about the Franklin Credit cover-up and blowback over the past 15 years.

Get my drift?

[bobthedrummer]

49. What do you make of the "allegations" about some of the most powerful people in the world raping

children-in the context of who these people were and how some of them (or their loved ones) passed away?
I'm on record from the OP as to believing MANY (not all) of the allegations-particularly the more "bizarre" sounding ones about cult rituals/practices.

Some of the allegations named William Casey as a perpetrator. Interesting what happened to him in his CIA office just prior to his scheduled testimony before Congress. Let's just use Wikipedia for a most of today's links about the continuing blowback from the Franklin Credit cover-up. If you have an aptitude for analysis of spooks and domestic black operations I hope you will post this weekend.

William J. Casey (Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Casey

Michael C. Ruppert prepared some remarks for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence/SSCI that deserve to be in this thread.

Opening Remarks of Michael C. Ruppert for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (1997)
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/ssci.shtml

Again, in the context of the intelligence community connections of people like Larry E. King, Craig Spence, Robert Wadman, Donald Gregg, George H.W. Bush, et.al. How many of you remember William Colby?

William Colby (Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Colby

How about the head of the FBI's Intelligence Operations, William C. Sullivan, who was going to testify to the House Select Committee on Intelligence/HSCI about something or other?

William C. Sullivan (Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_C._Sullivan

Your participation is encouraged DUers and visitors. This is not tinfoil-not one post has been deleted. Speak out.

[bobthedrummer]

50. Lets add links to the driving force of MK ULTRA/MK SEARCH and a whole lot more mentioned upthread

Richard McGarrah Helms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Helms

For those that love the truth, no matter where we find it, below is a link to a Trowbridge Ford article about Helms that is worth reading, imo, cautiously.

Richard Helms: The Most Dangerous CIA Director (Trowbridge Ford August 23, 2011)
http://www.veteranstoday.com/richard-helms-the-most-dangerous-cia-director

So, the FBI arrested lots of people involved in child pornography this weekend-they are quite experienced at that on all sides of justice, aren't they?

[bobthedrummer]

51. Lord Janner escaped prosecution due to CPS and police failings, report finds (Rajeev Syal January 19

2016 The Guardian)
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jan/19/lord-janner-escaped-prosecution-due-to-cps-and-police-failings-report-finds

Who else is "of the opinion" that there certainly seems to be patterns from the Franklin cover-up that are followed worldwide, like the survivors, investigators, advocates etc. have stated throughout the decades? This certainly includes the production of "alters".

[bobthedrummer]

52. Margaret Thatcher "personally covered up" child abuse allegations against senior ministers (Anarcho-

Socialist DU 7-13-2014)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014845316

Church and State both follow some of these patterns that have proven so effective over the decades in the cover-up from Franklin.

Bishop Accountability
http://bishopaccountability.org

What are your thoughts on these terrible truths, DU???

[Mnemosyne]

53. Thank you, Bob. nt

[bobthedrummer]

54. Thank you too, Mnemosyne.

There still are many powerful groups employed to discredit the truth about some of the revelations that surfaced in Omaha, and elsewhere.

CIA Torture Archives (Alex Constantine)
http://www.constantinereport.com/topic/torture

[Mnemosyne]

56. Propaganda works, sadly. TPTB have been rewriting history.

I had a hell of a time getting a new copy, had read a library copy years before, of 'The Franklin Coverup' during the Guckert/Gannon business when the WH visits were happening. 3 online sellers kept saying it was coming and until the reprint came out it seemed it was not ever coming. It took months to finally get it.

These are evil sick beings. Selling children at auctions right here in this country, using school photos like catalogs for their perversions. And many, many are in power, as you know.

I'm not sure they can ever be stopped. Conspiracy, you know...

[bobthedrummer]

55. The Associated Press/AP has a Crimes Against Children page for those of US that will NGU on seeking

justice from a corrupted system influenced by pure evil, an apt description of the Franklin Credit cover-up and its expansion.

Crimes Against Children (Associated Press)
http://bigstory.ap.org/tags/crimes-against-children

Who still denies that there are indeed ritualistic abuse crimes? You are certainly welcome to sound off in this thread regardless of point of view or belief system (which can be manufactured/manipulated).

[bobthedrummer]

57. 9 days remain in this Human Trafficking Awareness month of 2016, the Franklin cover-up continues

The National Child Traumatic Stress Network/NCTSN website belongs in this thread for all of US that comprise the real DU reality-based community.

NCTSN
http://www.nctsn.org/resources/public-awareness/human-trafficking

[bobthedrummer]

58. Another kick for the truth

[bobthedrummer]

59. A link to a New York Times article from October 1988 that supports many aspects of the cover-up

C.I.A. Near Settlement Of Lawsuits By Subjects Of Mind-Control Tests (Philip Shenon 10-6-88)
"The Central Intelligence Agency appears to be close to settling a lawsuit filed by nine Canadians who sought compensation after discovering they had been unwitting subjects in mind-control experiments, some involving LSD."

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/10/06/world/cia-near-settlement-of-lawsuit-by-subjects-of-mind-control-tests.html

Experiments? One of the "side effects" is called prosopagnosia aka "face blindness", a rare condition that just so happened to be present in many of the children in many abuse cases including the Franklin cover-up and the Finders. Easy to dismiss identification of perpetrators, and don't forget that a major goal of mind-control was regression to a state of dependence.

Prosopagnosia (Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/prosopagnosia

[bobthedrummer]

62. Some of the statements given by Bonacci, the Webb's, Owens and others, as well as the ritual abuse

"allegations" of children-combined with the CIA shutdown of the Finders case share horrific abuse of kids that may indeed have been used to create alters-that could be triggered without knowledge of the individual at all--another goal of the "experiments" conducted by some really brilliant people.

Consider what both the Franklin cover-up principals and ritualized torture survivors described as children (upthread) and compare that to what an alleged UFO abductee described (in the context of sophisticated networks of child abusers and the claims against them being neutralized)

Interview With A Female Milab "Abductee" (Lilu Tuatha) by Eve Lorgan
http://www.whale.to/c/lorgen.html

Consider what we know about some of the history of " mind-control experiments" and "experimenters" employed by the intelligence community.

Donald Ewen Cameron (Wikipedia entry)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ewen_Cameron

Donald Ewen Cameron (Spartacus Educational page)
http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKcameronDE.htm

Dr. Louis Joyon "Jolly" West (Whale)
http://www.whale.to/b/west_q.html

Who/what do you believe???

[polynomial]

60. Its way past time to expose this stuff

With the Mainstream Media News, Hollywood, Academia as important players besides business banking and political people gives the impression this is media ignored culture of sexual machination dedicated to child exploitation, or said as call boys sounds acceptable ignoring the mental in behavior is past the edge in self-indulgence.

For me Dennis Hastert was more than a disappointment, moreover now knowing the Labor Department heads of staff maybe loaded with exploitation that compromises claims for injuries. One can also believe Senate Aids may also line up with the Larry King mix.

Out of Omaha does not surprise me. A key industry centered in Omaha is the Union Pacific Railroad. Through personal experience I heard a direct warning that talking about history especially about the Bush family, which could include the Nazi connections through history can lead to retaliatory management practices leading to termination.

[bobthedrummer]

61. Thanks for your input, polynomial. I've found that some of the current young staffers of elected

officials indeed have similar biographies to those that were networked through King et.al. (vulnerable, abused, fostered, etc).
They tend to act as programmed gatekeepers above all else, part of the continual "omerta" regarding the evil corruption that has expanded since being revealed decades ago.

[bobthedrummer]

63. "While the news media feigns surprise and continues to report on the 'Shadow Government' deployed

outside of Washington to run things in the event of an attack, we who have written about this 'Shadow Government' know that this is nothing new."

Carol Rutz is another survivor that reveals many of the same characteristics of the abuse described by Bonacci, Owens, the Webb sisters and others from the Franklin cover-up; the Hersha sisters; the children of many ritual abuse cases; the Finders case and other vileness right here in the land of the free.

Compare her work with others that have stated the truth throughout the decades, if you love the truth regardless of all else.

Ritual Abuse-Shadow Government and Mount Pony (Carol Rutz)
http://www.whale.to/b/ruzt4.html

Carol Rutz wrote A Nation Betrayed: Secret Cold War Experiments Performed On Our Children And Other Innocent People, the link below is a 10 page summary of that book.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/nationbetrayed10pg

Who/what do you believe today about the blow back from Franklin, DUers? Contribute what you can to this thread in this final weekend of the month of Human Trafficking Awareness in the United States of America.

[ElliotCarver]

64. Well, Bob, my Saturday really went down the rabbit-hole

"Conspiracy of Silence" was haunting. Poppy the pedo-no wonder the ferocity of the coverup. I'm at a loss for words except to say that it reminds me of Jeffrey Epstein

[bobthedrummer]

65. It is a real criminal conspiracy, and includes many murders-it is inherently highly "disturbing" to

put it mildly. Some of it literally sickens me.

Reminds me that there is a lot more to post about in this thread, which you and others are encouraged to do ElliotCarver.

[bobthedrummer]

66. The public library I am posting from today is going to close due to the winter storm.

Just wanted to kick this again and ask for more participation from the real DU reality-based community. Stay warm wherever you are.

[bobthedrummer]

67. I mentioned the financial component in the OP, I made a reference to one historic unit, BCCI.

Given all the intelligence community context, so far, one of the finest threads about BCCI (once a CIA major transaction center) was started by Stephanie on February 22, 2006. It is worth reposting in this thread.

UAE and BCCI>>> (Stephanie 2-22-06 DU)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x490176

Add to this thread.

[bobthedrummer]

68. Wasn't it sickening to see Jeb leading the way for his mom amidst the Secret Service in the NH snow?

n/t

[bobthedrummer]

69. The DU LGBT membership is encouraged to contribute more to this thread, which has only begun to ex-

plore the expansion of many components of the Franklin Credit cover-up.

This is about criminal conspiracies involving corruption to cover-up horrific crimes, not sexuality.

Kick.

[libodem]

70. Kick and Recommend

Bookmarked. Go Bob!

[bobthedrummer]

71. The Failures of America's Foster Care System (Joachim Hagopian 2014)

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-failures-of-americas-foster-care-system/5392130

We're only beginning to discuss a few of the many components of this ongoing criminal conspiracy against the future of all of US, add to this thread DUers.

[bobthedrummer]

72. Your participation is requested as we have only scratched the surface in this discussion. n/t

[bobthedrummer]

73. Surely you can contribute a post to this thread today. n/t

[bobthedrummer]

74. Don't you wish that this was just some crazy conspiracy theory, instead of an ongoing SYSTEM? n/t

[bobthedrummer]

75. Now playing in a neighborhood near you...

[bobthedrummer]

76. This thread needs to be graced by posts from the real DU reality-based community and other survivors

[bobthedrummer]

77. +

[bobthedrummer]

78. I realize that there's a lot going on elsewhere. Time for another BCCI link to this evil mess.

The Case That Kerry Cracked (Lucy Komisar October 21, 2004)
"As a senator, John Kerry was a tenacious investigator and exposed BCCI..."

http://www.alternet.org/story/20268/the_case_that_kerry_cracked

A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse & Betrayal (Nick Bryant)
http://franklinscandal.com/franklinscandal_boystown2.html

This needs some movement towards justice-as do other evils.

[yurbud]

79. this all seemed like a dizzying conspiracy theory until Jeff Gannon

Even if he wasn't Johnny Goesch, a male prostitute who seemed tailor made for Baby Bush's fetishes, sure looks like honey pot someone put in his path to remind him how easy it would be to destroy him if he strayed to far from what those who put him in power expected him to do.

[bobthedrummer]

80. ^

[bobthedrummer]

81. Hastert...n/t

[bobthedrummer]

82. Passover kick #1 n/t