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Omaha Steve

(99,624 posts)
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 07:17 PM Jan 2015

TransCanada files eminent domain petitions against holdout landowners opposing Keystone XL pipeline

Source: Omaha World Herald

By Joe Duggan

LINCOLN — The Canadian company that wants to build the Keystone XL pipeline filed legal action Tuesday against the holdout landowners in an effort to secure the remaining right-of-way for the controversial project.

A representative for TransCanada Corp. said eminent domain petitions were filed in nine counties against “less than 90” landowners. The landowners represent the last people along the 1,187-mile pipeline route to refuse voluntary easement agreements.

“This is just another step in the process,” said Andrew Craig, land manager for the Keystone projects. “Eminent domain has a ring of finality, but we still remain committed to reaching voluntary agreements.”

Under a 2012 state law that approved the pipeline route in Nebraska, the company had until Thursday to file eminent domain actions. Court hearings will follow and an independent panel will determine the value for easements and any crop damage caused by pipeline construction before a judge orders the land condemned.



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TransCanada files eminent domain petitions against holdout landowners opposing Keystone XL pipeline (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2015 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #1
Thanks to the TPP and other "trade" agreements, those foreign companies will be able djean111 Jan 2015 #4
Obama is nothing more than an empty suit for the 1%. blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #10
A foriegn country is filing eminent domain in our country? I think that eminent domain is supposed jwirr Jan 2015 #2
This is probably what the TPP will look like. Plucketeer Jan 2015 #3
The Corporate Investor State common good. Seriously. n/t djean111 Jan 2015 #5
"eminent domain is supposed to be only in the interest of the common good" - You're correct. Veilex Jan 2015 #8
Yes, exactly HOW can a foreign country use imminent domain in our own? This sounds silvershadow Jan 2015 #13
A "foreign country" isn't. A "foreign corporation" is. As a result, expect it to win. Nihil Jan 2015 #17
If the government was doing this, central scrutinizer Jan 2015 #6
Makes you wonder atreides1 Jan 2015 #7
How can a private corporation engage in eminent domain proceedings? PSPS Jan 2015 #9
It flows from the FERC Kilgore Jan 2015 #11
I read the Governor delegated his authority to exercise eminent domain over landowners Samantha Jan 2015 #16
Canadian company asserting eminent domain over US landowners? Stephen Retired Jan 2015 #12
K&R DeSwiss Jan 2015 #14
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs Cryptoad Jan 2015 #15
So, what's next?: We have a GOVERNMENT, but it's not a REAL GOVERNMENT! Johnny Rash Jan 2015 #18

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. Thanks to the TPP and other "trade" agreements, those foreign companies will be able
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jan 2015

to sue us for perceived lost profits. So the taxpayers are on the hook for the settlements. Plus - foreign companies can, I believe, have local and state, not to mention sovereign country, laws and regulations overturned or weakened.
This is whyI will not be able to watch the SOTU tonight; I don't want to actually see Obama shill for the TPP.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
2. A foriegn country is filing eminent domain in our country? I think that eminent domain is supposed
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 07:26 PM
Jan 2015

to be only in the interest of the common good. We are not going to get anything out of this pipeline. It is not our oil and it is going on the world market. Whose common good?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
3. This is probably what the TPP will look like.
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 07:34 PM
Jan 2015

LOL!!! And we got us a community organizer who's itching to force it up this "community's" rear.

 

Veilex

(1,555 posts)
8. "eminent domain is supposed to be only in the interest of the common good" - You're correct.
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 08:28 PM
Jan 2015

Keystone is anything BUT in the interest of the common good.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
13. Yes, exactly HOW can a foreign country use imminent domain in our own? This sounds
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 10:43 PM
Jan 2015

like a hail mary, but with our "new and improved" legal system, it will probably fly. Sadly. We are losing our country piece by piece.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
17. A "foreign country" isn't. A "foreign corporation" is. As a result, expect it to win.
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 08:33 AM
Jan 2015

"Corporate rights" trump "national rights", "state rights", "land-owner rights" and "human rights".

I bet the Nebraskan farmers didn't give a toss about Chevron vs Ecuador, Shell vs Nigeria,
BP/Transocean/Halliburton vs GOM states, Exxon vs Alaska or about any of the thousands
of pipeline leaks/explosions/pollution when it happened anywhere else but now that they are
feeling the pinch, they've discovered environmentalism.

Pardon my cynicism but it's too little, too late: that ship has sailed.

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
6. If the government was doing this,
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 07:55 PM
Jan 2015

the conservatives would literally be up in arms (think Cliven Bundy) defending the farmers against the jack-booted thugs.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
7. Makes you wonder
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 08:12 PM
Jan 2015

How many of those land owners voted and/or supported Republicans?

Now they're getting rewarded for their efforts...

PSPS

(13,595 posts)
9. How can a private corporation engage in eminent domain proceedings?
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 09:05 PM
Jan 2015

"Eminent Domain" is "the right of a government or its agent to expropriate private property for public use, with payment of compensation." Or, in more detail, "the power to take private property for public use by a state, municipality, or private person or corporation authorized to exercise functions of public character, following the payment of just compensation to the owner of that property."

How does this fit that definition on either side? Are Nebraska county officials also agents of TransCanada? Is the pipeline "public use?"

Public Use: "Requires that the property taken be used to benefit the public rather than specific individuals."

Furthermore, I don't see how a private party can have standing in such an action.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
11. It flows from the FERC
Tue Jan 20, 2015, 10:18 PM
Jan 2015

Federal Energy Regulatory Comission.

Certain energy projects are granted a Certificate of Public Convience which grants the power of eminent domain. Here is a link

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_of_public_convenience_and_necessity

They have been around since 1870.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
16. I read the Governor delegated his authority to exercise eminent domain over landowners
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:51 AM
Jan 2015

to TransCanada. I believe it was the Governor of Nebraska. The article was posted here, and I don't have a link. I remember it distinctly because I thought it was outrageous.

Sam

 

Johnny Rash

(227 posts)
18. So, what's next?: We have a GOVERNMENT, but it's not a REAL GOVERNMENT!
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 10:22 AM
Jan 2015

In other words, we have a country called the "United States of America", but it's not really the "United States of America"!

I think, we seriously need to REBOOT the whole system, once and for all!


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