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Ryan Fitzomething

(139 posts)
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:48 AM Dec 2014

Cuba relations with Catholic Church at high point

Source: Associated Press

By ANDREA RODRIGUEZ
Dec. 25, 2014 12:34 AM EST

HAVANA (AP) — Golden rays of tropical sunlight slant through the caved-in roof of Saint Thomas de Villanueva chapel, illuminating tiles graced by the faces of saints. Vandals shattered the stained-glass windows and scrawled their names on the thick walls during decades of frigid relations between the Roman Catholic Church and Cuba's communist government.

But a new chain-link fence surrounds the building, protecting it for a future that once seemed unimaginable.

The church is planning to restore the building to its former glory, along with more a dozen more churches, parish houses and other buildings, as part of a quiet reconciliation between the Catholic Church and the Cuban government that has brought relations to a historic high point this Christmas. Authorities have also given permission for the construction of the first two new churches in more than five decades.

After years of bridge-building behind closed doors, the Cuba-Vatican rapprochement burst into the headlines last week when the U.S. government credited Pope Francis with helping facilitate the secret reconciliation talks between the U.S. and Cuba. Francis wrote the leaders of both countries to invite them to resolve their differences.


Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/71a031c6979e4ea0aed9ccb1757beedb/cubas-relations-catholic-church-hit-high-point



Not surprising, really: Both Cuba and the Church have a history of non-democracy, says this Irish-Catholic.
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Omaha Steve

(100,031 posts)
1. Photo from the story
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:58 AM
Dec 2014



In this Dec. 1, 2014, a guard walks inside the chapel of the former University of Santo Thomas of Villanueva in Havana, Cuba. Since late 2009, President Raul Castro's government has been quietly returning some church property that was confiscated in the years after the Cuban revolution, including this chapel. The rest of the university property was not returned. (AP Photo/Ramon Espinosa)

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Mika

(17,751 posts)
8. The churches were abandoned. The gov't didn't confiscate them.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 04:02 PM
Dec 2014

The Catholic church was no longer paying taxes on the abandoned properties. Cities/counties/provinces do have the right to eminent domain in cases of abandoned properties in Cuba, as is the case in most of the world.

The Catholic church was not kicked out of Cuba. The church pulled out of Cuba after the 1959 Revolutionary gov't decreed that education was a universal right, and that education be provided to all Cubans for free.

Thus, killing THE profit center of the church in Cuba... so they up and left.


former9thward

(32,259 posts)
9. From the BBC. Actual history instead of your alternative other world history.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 10:20 PM
Dec 2014
BBC ON THIS DAY 1 MAY 1961

Dr Castro also announced that foreign Roman Catholic priests would be expelled and all Roman Catholic and private schools would be nationalised.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/1/newsid_2479000/2479867.stm

In 1962, the government of Fidel Castro seized and shut down more than 400 Catholic schools, charging that they spread dangerous beliefs among the people.
Colegio de Belen, Habana


http://www.ordendemaltacuba.com/Pages/historycuba4.aspx
 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
11. Lol. Corporomedia is the source for actual Cuba information? Hardly.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 04:10 PM
Dec 2014

There's 10 lbs of BS in a 5 lb bag in that BBC link.



 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
7. Finding order within the chaos
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:40 PM
Dec 2014

Organization within churches and governments appears rational within its attempts to control and maintain an idea and the people following it. Deviation from the path by an ever increasing population of irrational followers dilutes the idea and life goes on for now.

former9thward

(32,259 posts)
10. When I visited Cuba there was a huge statue of Christ overlooking the Havana Bay.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 10:27 PM
Dec 2014


The locals told me it went up at the same time Castro took over the Cuban government.
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