US will not support new Palestinian resolution at UN
Source: Ynet
The United States would not support a new Palestinian-proposed UN Security Council draft resolution, US State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said on Thursday.
"It is not something we would support," Psaki told reporters. Earlier, Israel's foreign minister described a draft resolution that calls for a peace deal within a year and ending the Israeli presence in the Palestinian territories by 2017 as a gimmick.
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Full text of Palestinians UN resolution
Noting with appreciation the efforts of the United States in 2013/14 to facilitate and advance negotiations between the parties aimed at achieving a final peace settlement,
Aware of its responsibilities to help secure a long-term solution to the conflict,
1. Affirms the urgent need to attain, no later than 12 months after the adoption of this resolution, a just, lasting and comprehensive peaceful solution that brings an end to the Israeli occupation since 1967 and fulfills the vision of two independent, democratic and prosperous states, Israel and a sovereign, contiguous and viable State of Palestine living side by side in peace and security within mutually and internationally recognized borders;
2. Decides that the negotiated solution will be based on the following parameters:
borders based on 4 June 1967 lines with mutually agreed, limited, equivalent land swaps;
security arrangements, including through a third-party presence, that guarantee and respect the sovereignty of a State of Palestine, including through a full and phased withdrawal of Israeli security forces which will end the occupation that began in 1967 over an agreed transition period in a reasonable timeframe, not to exceed the end of 2017, and that ensure the security of both Israel and Palestine through effective border security and by preventing the resurgence of terrorism and effectively addressing security threats, including emerging and vital threats in the region.
A just and agreed solution to the Palestine refugee question on the basis of Arab Peace Initiative, international law and relevant United Nations resolutions, including resolution 194 (III);
Jerusalem as the shared capital of the two States which fulfills the legitimate aspirations of both parties and protects freedom of worship;
an agreed settlement of other outstanding issues, including water;
3. Recognizes that the final status agreement shall put an end to the occupation and an end to all claims and lead to immediate mutual recognition;
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BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)We do what he and AIPAC say every time.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,498 posts)Response to BillZBubb (Reply #1)
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Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Why not listen to a foreign war criminal.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Full RoR is impossible but finding agreement on the right combination of RoR and compensation will be tricky.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)The Palestinians would accept a limited right to return if given concessions from the Israelis. For instance, the Palestinian state needs a direct path to connect Gaza with the West Bank. A deal could be reached with Israel to provide a corridor for such a link. Israel could also offer support for building a port in Gaza.
There are an endless number of possibilities that are win-win. The Israelis' use the Palestinian demand for RoR as a justification for doing nothing rather than the negotiable issue it really is.
hack89
(39,171 posts)That is the problem.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)The vast majority of Palestinians want peace and a prosperous state of their own. Given that opportunity, Hamas has no attraction for them.
Hamas is attractive to them now because it is at least FIGHTING to get their land back.
hack89
(39,171 posts)It is a common political model in the ME. Let's not forget that if the Palestinians forge a true multiparty democracy it will be the first in the region (other than Israel). Another Iran, Iraq, Eygpt, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia .... is the more likely result.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)That's the kind of extreme hypothetical that Israel uses to insure peace never comes. What Hamas would have to offer after the Palestinians gained a viable state of their own would be exactly nothing.
The vast majority of Palestinians, would if need be, fight them if they tried to impose a dictatorship.
If Israel maintains its current immoral and brutal occupation, they risk radicalizing Palestinians to the point where Hamas or ISIS or whatever fundamentalist group solidly gains the upper hand. That is what Israel should be concerned about.
hack89
(39,171 posts)the violence between Hamas and the PA in Gaza when Hamas took complete power is a good indication of things to come.
Hamas has never shown a willingness to embrace democracy nor is it likely that they will give up power without violence.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)K&R