Trayvon Martin Video Shows No Blood or Bruises on George Zimmerman
Source: ABC
A police surveillance video taken the night that Trayvon Martin was shot dead shows no blood or bruises on George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch captain who says he shot Martin after he was punched in the nose, knocked down and had his head slammed into the ground.
The surveillance video, which was obtained exclusively by ABC News, shows Zimmerman arriving in a police cruiser. As he exits the car, his hands are cuffed behind his back. Zimmerman is frisked and then led down a series of hallways, still cuffed.
Zimmerman, 28, is wearing a red and black fleece and his face and head are cleanly shaven. He appears well built, hardly the portly young man depicted in a 2005 mug shot that until a two days ago was the single image the media had of Zimmerman.
Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/trayvon-martin-case-exclusive-surveillance-video-george-zimmerman/story?id=16022897#.T3Otj2Egc1J
VIDEO HERE:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/george-zimmerman-police-surveillance-16024475
MORE:
BIG BUT!!!
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-28/news/os-trayvon-martin-zimmerman-video-20120328_1_police-video-video-shot-patrol-car
................
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/28/2719868/network-broadcasts-surveillance.html#storylink=cpy
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts).
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)got root
(425 posts)still blurry, though... and what's up with the abc logo floating way up there?
Alcibiades
(5,061 posts)So they put it in a place where it's hard to just clip it out.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)and they want to make sure they get credit when others air it.
Mariana
(14,856 posts)His shirt has no blood on in and it's nicely tucked in, too, isn't it? Has anyone ever seen someone after a fight whose shirt hasn't pulled out? Do you suppose after he shot Trayvon, he put his gun down and straightened up all his clothes before the police came?
Ho-ly shit.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)There is a carton of holes in Zimmerman's story and the Sanford PD's account of this incident. If that person is Zimmerman right after the incident he obviously was not a person who was bleeding from the back of his head or who had been knocked to the ground in a life threatening attack.
otohara
(24,135 posts)are locked up, and he can't stop the bleeding.
this is all over the news except faux. dennis miller is such a wonderful substitute for reality.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)WAAA, No blood cuz EMT's wiped him off before video.
If he got his head and nose broke, where is the gauze and band-aids ?
Creepers are nothing more than a bunch of bench warmers for high school
cheerleaders.
chowder66
(9,067 posts)and he sure looks fit and capable of handling himself.
BOHICA12
(471 posts)9mm to a guy on top of you = lots of blood. Bloody noses drip onto fronts of shirts. Blood should stain the back of his collar. LOTS OF MISSING BLOOD HERE!
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)zeemike
(18,998 posts)Now the question is why is he not in jail awaiting trial.
And what will the right wing do to spin it away?
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)they were able to clean up all of the blood from the suspect (and his clothing) AND healed his nose temporarily from the massive break. Magic beans are only good for a few hours though. As poor innocent George awoke the next morning, the broken nose bean magic wore off, the injury returned and he just sobbed inconsolably over the events of the prior evening.
How'd I do?
I think I'll check Drudge tomorrow to see how close that was...
zeemike
(18,998 posts)You may have a job at Fox news waithing for you...and the beans are a logical explaintion in right wing mythilogy
Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)to let him walk! They should be held responsible TOO
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)ANYONE IN A POLICE UNIFORM OR HOLDING A BADGE ANYWHERE!!! THEY ARE LEGAL BULLIES WHO WORK FOR THE UBER RICH!
villager
(26,001 posts)forget where I first read that - it might have been poet Gary Snyder reciting Woodie Guthrie, but the light bulb of realization went on in that moment, and it just becomes truer and truer with each passing year.
frylock
(34,825 posts)my apologies. carry on.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)They do not all act in this manner, just like not all OWS protesters are violent, jobless thugs.
Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)I've been a member for quite awhile, have hundreds of posts and am not a troll.
I'm not defending the actions of these cops. They belong in jail with Zimmerman. However, not all cops act this way. I know many personally and they would have never done this nor gone along with it. You can't make a blanket statement about an entire group based on the actions of a few. Just as it is unfair to characterize all cops as bad, it is equally unfair to stereotype the actions of protesters. Yes, I have been in the streets with them protesting the wars.
But, you go right ahead and try to get me banned because I said something you didn't like or agree with. It's not a RW talking point. It's calm, adult reasoning.
Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)I KNOW POLICE OFFICERS AND I STAND BY MY ORIGINAL STATEMENT! I WOULDN"T TRUST ONE SAVE MY LIFE RIGHT NOW!! YOU WANT HAVE AT IT!
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)I didn't accuse you of lying. Please point out where I did that.
You can only lie about facts. You posted an opinion. I can't say you lied about your opinion. You are entitled to your opinion. I have a different opinion, which I shared. This is called a discussion. We are on a discussion board.
And I really can't engage with you anymore until you calm down. Maybe you need to take a break away from the computer.
liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)I understand the emotion given the situation, and I agree that some serious heads need to do some serious rolling at the Sanford police dept., but there's no reason for taking it out on another poster and certainly not for the all caps, that is beyond incredibly annoying and only turns people off, even people who may agree with you.
And I think what he meant about the OWS statement on his first post you responded to was that he was trying to show the illogic of broad brushing stereotypes, such as the one about all OWS protestors being violent, lazy, unemployed thugs. He's wasn't making any slam on OWS, just broad brushing stereotypes.
And I was sure glad there were police around to help me when I was mugged at gunpoint several years ago. Just what would you suggest be done about real criminals and crime without police?
Response to Justice wanted (Reply #47)
freshwest This message was self-deleted by its author.
frylock
(34,825 posts)by the "few bad apples." go on ahead and tell us. i'm all ears. i got news for you, son. if those "good cops" you're friends with aren't ACTIVELY working to out these shitbird cops that infest the dept, then they aren't any better.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)are not exactly hotbeds of activity and racial strife. Lots of cops just go out every day and serve the community in a multitude of ways. And, yes, the cops I know would not turn a blind eye to murder.
villager
(26,001 posts)Worked with one of L.A.'s Finest, who retired early due to stress.
Sadly, I've come to see him as the exception -- temperament-wise, etc. -- and not the rule.
On edit: And that still doesn't change the correct observation of their main mission: To protect the banks.
liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)"John Doe" in the morgue for a day, without even checking the cell phone (or maybe they did and waited to notify his father? Wouldn't be surprised) is so that they could manipulate the body and the autopsy findings. Sure wouldn't be the first time.
And why the hell would the head honcho state's attorney be called in for consultation in person that night, especially if Trayvon were a "John Doe" to them? Did they start all the coverup even then? Are they that desperate to protect the SYG laws?
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)by name and date of birth.
Likely no identification identifying him to Orlando-area family, but his Miami-area family would have been known.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Something I understand is highly unusual for your run of the mill murder.
Smilo
(1,944 posts)not for Zimmerman, but for poor Trayvon and his family.
Thankfully there seems to be one decent human being in the Sanford PD.
If the police lied about the cuts and grass stains then the Feds need to be in there double quick, shut down the PD and say they are taking over.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Shirt looks awful clean to me for someone who just suffered a broken nose and has his hands locked behind his back without a gauze of some sort to stem the bleeding...
BattyDem
(11,075 posts)It was an accident. We were playing on the floor, he jumped and his head hit my nose. He weighed about 7 pounds at the time. The blood came pouring out immediately! I had to stuff my nose with cotton to stop it. It took about an hour before it stopped bleeding completely. Doc said it wasn't broken, but it was a little swollen the next day and I got nose bleeds on and off for about 3 weeks. If I had that much trouble after a collision with a 7 pound puppy, I would imagine that a broken nose caused by contact with a thrusting fist would have at least that much damage.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)a fist with a bottle of Arizona Tea in it. Stalker deserved at LEAST that, and I am honestly disappointed that Tray may not have had the chance to take that shot.
Thanks for the note on your injury. Anyone who has has a nose injury and sees that tape can see that the 'broken nose' defense is total bullshit.
leftylauren
(51 posts)So if he is indeed 220 and 5'9 then he must have his fair share of muscle. Even more reason why deadly force would not be a necessary for self defense against a 17 year old that he out weighed by 80-100lbs.
Quixote1818
(28,930 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)At this point I don't see a way out for Zimmerman. I just hope they're able to take him into custody alive because I believe the man is irrational.
Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)It seems at one point one of the officers inspects the back of Zimmerman's head closely.
But Zimmerman sure doesn't look very beat up in the video. No blood on his clothes that I can see, either.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Eddie played the video without that trademark.
I was HIGHLY disappointed in ABC for feeling so strongly about their "exclusive" that they chose to block the entire point of the video with their "exclusive" overlay. We *get* it. You have a mole and no one else does. *yawn*
countryjake
(8,554 posts)They go to all the trouble of releasing that "exclusive" and then block the damned pertinent part of the video with their stupid logo!
I sure hope that this video won't turn out to be as "fuzzy" and non-conclusive as the 911 call, which to me, designates the shooting as a hate crime, since I, myself, can clearly hear a racial epithet being uttered by the suspect (just as I can see no signs of any "beating" visible on ABC's breaking news vid).
patrice
(47,992 posts)Ian David
(69,059 posts)Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)HE CLAIMED SELF DEFENSE THIS WHOLE ENTIRE TIME?! NOTHING HE KILLED THAT POOR INNOCENT KID FOR NOTHING BUT BLOOD LUST!
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)if Trayvon was sitting on him and pummeling him, wouldn't Zimmermann have the victims blood on him? Lawrence O'Donnell brought up this question.
Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)blood at all that would justify Zimmerman's story.
I want to know IF Trayvon was shot from behind because there is no blood.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)he was shot in the chest, but when the one witness who's been very outspoken against Zimmerman and who had called 911 when she heard the screaming (I think it was her call where we hear the screaming and pleading and then the shot that ends it) said that, when she came outside after hearing the shot, Trayvon was lying face downward and Zimmerman had a foot on both sides of him. I'm puzzled as to why, if he were shot in the chest, he was lying face downward with Zimmerman's feet on either side? If you get hit in the chest, the normal trajectory is falling on your back. Then again, I'm certainly no forensics, physics or ballistics expert and there may be another explanation. But I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that Martin was running and then shot in the back.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Zimmerman has received cover from this department to which there is NO excuse for.
eyewall
(674 posts)He could not have shot Trayvon at point blank range while the boy was kneeling over him. He could not have gotten a broken/bloody nose. The Police obviously lied also.
Why is he NOT in jail??!
Vattel
(9,289 posts)But that doesn't mean the police report is false. And having had a slightly broken nose myself from basketball, it may be true that his nose was slightly broken.
If Zimmerman is telling the truth, it's not surprising that he was not arrested. The witnesses will play a huge role in determining the legal outcome here.
the police report may or may not be false, but it is definitely insufficient. A lot of evidence is missing from the report for a reason. One thing is definitely clear: Zimmerman lied about suffering a gash to the back of his head while having his head slammed to the ground repeatedly. There is NO way paramedics will see a gash on someone's head, clean it off, and not at least put a band-aid over the open wound. No band-aid, no injury. Zimmerman and the police who corroborated lied.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)Maybe Zimmerman removed the band-aid. Maybe the blood that the police officer saw on the back of Zimmerman's head was not from a cut there. Did Zimmerman claim that he had a gash on the back of his head? If he didn't claim it, there is no lie. It's dangerous to make inferences based on so little information.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)got root
(425 posts)Zimmerman, and his spin doctors are obviously NOT 'telling the truth'.
WTFU
Vattel
(9,289 posts)And spin is pretty much guaranteed. But it's not obvious that the police made a mistake in not charging Zimmerman.
After seeing this, how can those Zimmer supporters STILL think this dude was acting in self defense? What more do these people want? All the denial of what common sense tells me was a cold blooded murder is just pathetic.
davepc
(3,936 posts)No blood, no stains, no rips or tears to his clothing. The guy was supposedly in a mortal struggle where he felt in fear for his life and looks like he did nothing more then stroll around the block.
ghurley
(205 posts)Smilo
(1,944 posts)that there were no injuries on Trayvon Martin's hands or knuckles.
Lex
(34,108 posts)They knew Zimmerman hadn't been attacked. That much is plain to see. And they knew that HE was stalking Trayvon through the neighborhood.
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)Nostradammit
(2,921 posts)It looks like the story about him in a fight with the teenager is utter bullshit.
The preferential treatment came later when they did not arrest the judges son.
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)moobu2
(4,822 posts)Anyone ever see Taxi Driver? When I saw Zimmerman in this video I was just reminded of De Niro in Taxi Driver.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Post removed
TBF
(32,056 posts)the CHILD.
The only question I want answered is what that asshole adult Zimmerman was doing following a child around his housing development with a loaded gun? WTF?