Childhood Vaccines Deemed Safe, Again
Source: ABC News
The latest analysis of childhood vaccines confirms they're generally safe.
The report should be reassuring to parents, the researchers say. For example, there still is no evidence the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine causes autism. Nor is there any proof vaccines cause childhood leukemia.
The assessment mirrors and updates a 2011 report on vaccine safety by the U.S. Institute of Medicine. That report found vaccines can cause certain side effects but serious ones are very rare.
Experts say such risks need to be balanced against the benefits of vaccines the prevention of millions of illnesses and thousands of deaths annually.
Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/childhood-vaccines-deemed-generally-safe-24374562
To the anti-Vaxxers (including "Natural News," bite me.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)I hadn't heard that one.
Bickle
(109 posts)Which should be re-banned, as they are in ep the rest of the world, but if it happens once during the study they have to list it, even if they're not sure it's a direct cause
And the anti vaxxers will latch on I'm sure.
It's really time to just make it mandatory for all medically able people. No exceptions. If you object, you're held down and forced to watch, and when your kid is fine, you are forced to admit on national television how crazy you are from your cell
Your right not be stupid ends at the other oerson's nose. Something the Suoreme court needs to be reminded od
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)before they leave the hospital? Hold the new Mom hostage unless that baby is vaccinated? Really?
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Just give it. No "hostage taking" needed. Prosecute where appropriate.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)My daughter and SIL refused it, and not on religious grounds either. Their baby was having medical problems and they did not want to add to that with a vax to his system. The hospital did not push it. Is Hepatitis also a community danger? His pediatrician just said to wait and not take him out around crowds for a few months. That sounds reasonable to me. The same as some parents wanting to spread out the vax schedule, and not give the kids too many at one time, and especially before they can even talk and say themselves what they are feeling.
Bickle
(109 posts)You're attempting to muddy the waters here.
This is not a case of some delusional moron being stupid. This is a case of a,licensed, educated professional making a decision base don science to so something. Not conspiracy nuts
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)The hospital left it totally up to the parents. His medical issues were not serious enough but the hospital did not push it. Pediatrician? Again, not life threatening but with jaundice, weight loss, dehydration,but his doctor didn't push it, and still hasn't at 6 weeks old. "It is fine to wait". His pediatrician is a man in his 80s. I suppose he is also using his own practical practice experience and not just mouthing the CDC regulations.
Bickle
(109 posts)By introducing a personal anecdote whose premise I had already covered. You're muddying the waters in an attempt to derail from the actual point and issue/solution of my post.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)they should be forced to be vax againist Hepatiitis, before leaving the hospital, against parents wishes? No, No, NO.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Hopefully, they don't travel...
ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)ck4829
(35,072 posts)Fear is the mind-killer, but with this anti-vaccine panic that a segment of our culture always has, it's just killer.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)The only thing worse than a Negro was a Jew, apparently.....
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Oh, that's right... When the asshole media gave equal time to the anti-vaxxer crowd.
Chalk this up as another win for science!
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)the CDC can take their vax and boosters and put them where the sun does not shine as I am concerned for myself. Don't care if they are totally free with Medicare. My doctor cannot tell me anything, or drop me, because I haven't been to a doctor in years, and don't have "MY" personal doctor.
Sorry, you will never know how many adults are not in compliance with the CDC "recommendations" for adults. Tough. My kids can do whatever they want with their own child, but they certainly cannot force ME to comply with the CDC.
Archae
(46,327 posts)Go through an old cemetery, that still has tombstones from the 1800's and early 1900's.
Make sure you notice all the kids under 4 or 5 buried there.
I know a family, with 2 elderly adults, (well, the Father died of cancer 4 years ago,) 5 adults, 7 grandchildren and 7 great-grandchildren.
All of them had their shots.
My family.
Not *ONE* case of autism. None.
Quacks like Andrew Wakefield count on the suckers who believe their bilge.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)My Grandma was the ONLY child (born 1884) to survive out of 5, but she DID and went on to have 4 kids ALL of whom who suvived, minus all the vax given today, and that included THE Flu Pandemic of 1918. NONE of her kids, or her, or her husband, died during that without a vaccine. THINK about that one. Maybe Mother Nature (natural immunity) knows more than the CDC?
Archae
(46,327 posts)What did your Grandma's siblings die of?
Most likely diseases we no longer see much of today, like typhoid, whooping cough, cholera, and so on.
Smallpox, a particularly vicious disease that wiped out entire tribes of Native Americans, in addition to millions in Africa, Europe and Asia hasn't been seen now in decades.
Thanks to vaccines.
Polio is nearly gone.
You want a return to the "Good Old Days?"
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)i have gamma globulin shots when my mom got hepatitis from a doctor's needle for something when I was a kid. I was quarantined then and remember it forever. I don't drink out of the same glass to this day even if I am the only one in the house.
Fuck people who think they can avoid shots. Their kids are the ones who have brought back diseases we have finally managed to kill out. Measles and polio. I remember when polio was cured and I got the vaccine. I wish you could know how dreaded summer was ... polio season. Iron lungs. Look them up. Unvaccinated kids are a health hazard to everyone and why should a kid have to get polio because their know it all lendon larouche parents have their heads up their ass? Truly.
God bless Salk and all the others who save lives. I had measles and I had chicken pox so badly I had them under my eye lids and still have the scars on my head. Jenny McCarthy has helped kill kids. Fuck her.
There's a graphic out there that states nearly 25 million kids have suffered diseases we destroyed but were brought back by Jenny McCarthy and her know nothing brigade.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)I don't remember measles, mumps, rubella, or chicken pox because I got all before I was 2 years old. I should be DEAD from having ALL those diseases in such a short time as a baby according to what science says today.
Do you seriously think as a Senior I give a damn what a Celebrity younger than own my CHILDREN thinks??? You can say FU to Jenny McCarthy, but I will say FU to the CDC, and doctors.
I am CHARMED to have lived 65 years w/o Jenny McCarthy, countless vax, and the CDC. I was 6 years old before that polio vax came out. Thank my luck stars that didn't I catch that in all those years living in NYC with MILLIONS of unvaccinated people around a little child like me? Oh, what LUCK I had as a child!!!!!!
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)make your opinion and experiences the final word. whatever, I say. Yuck that up.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)What the heck is the matter with you?
65? You're my dad's age, and I know he had classmates who had polio, and post-polio syndrome, it's a safe bet you did too. I know people of his and your generation who still need a brace or a cane to this day. I don't think that's funny and I bet they don't either.
And then there was a vaccine, and my grandmother could send him swimming without fear.
Nobody my age got polio, except in poor countries where it was hard to get vaccinated. Many of those poor countries are polio free now. By the time I'm your age there probably won't be any polio except in a tightly controlled lab or too. Like smallpox.
You can laugh about polio all you want, but you discredit your argument (and your humanity) in doing so. When you were a child polio was a thing to fear. It killed children and maimed them. And then there was a vaccine, and now iron lungs and school age kids hobbling in leg braces are a thing of the past.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)for those of us born before 1957, had these diseases, and the CCD says are NOT recommended for vaccination. Do your really trust our natural immunity on this? PROVE it, or get vaccinated anyway? Blood tests? How can you really be SURE without vaccinations????? Vax are better??????
Maybe I am not really a Democrat then. I do not believe that a private employer's religious views should infringe on others choices of medical care. I see no difference in this with those than who say that GOVERNMENT can infringe on your personal medical choices, whether a parent of a child, or as an adult. TAX people to buy insurance, but does government (or anyone else) have the right to FORCE medical care, including Vax or so called "wellness programs", on anyone? Not to me.
As a Senior I am sick and tired of being used as a PAWN. You don't vax your children, you will kill the elderly. Spare me that one. They keep looking for "tools" that they can use in their agenda. The only difference is that they use "public good" instead of religious rights. I don't buy EITHER. My body, my choice. That doesn't just apply to reproduction of child bearing age women, but every single adult, AND parents of young children who determine that for Minors also.
I will leave you with my husband's (who complies with CDC "recommendations" dream last night. He has had the Shingles vax and still got Shingles. He thinks he might be getting it, again. He dreamed that I got both the Flu (3 out of 5 times he got that vax got the flu) AND Shingles. I have had NO vax and gotten neither. Got the flu about 15 years not only working with little kids with the flu, but taking care of my husband with it. I could not stop laughing when he told me his dream. I told him maybe your SUBCONSCIOUS is telling you something. Why doesn't SHE get these diseases not getting vax, and I DO getting vax. Oh, I am sure I WILL get sick with these diseases. After all it is 100% INEVITABLE that I will get the flu and shingles. lol
Archae
(46,327 posts)Say hello to Andrew Wakefield for me.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)You cannot even never KNOW. Is that clear enough?
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)The CDC says that having actually had measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, etc., gives natural immunity. Don't believe that from them? Can I PROVE that? No, my parents are dead. Even my pediatrician, who gave me a DPT vax, is also long dead. I supposed then all of us born before 1957 should run out and get ALL these vax anyway since natural immunity is just a crap shoot? ONLY vacinnations gives immunity?
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)I mean why would we believe scientists when we have an ex-playboy bunny/MTV Host providing us medical advice.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)I go by my family history as a genealogist. PRACTICAL, and my personal distain for doctors, to guide myself as an Adult and a Senior. My children, their children, and other people's chidlren, can do what they want. ADULTS can form their own opnions, and as far as an adult myself when it comes to adult vax, take them and shove them, and all your other Wellness programs, and put them where the sun doesn't shine.
BULLY parents of poor little children, but you aren't going to bully adults into submission. As an adult, I REFUSE to comply with vax, or any other health care, I choose not to.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)What did I say to you that makes you think I am bullying you. I did not even reply to any of your comments in the thread. You attacks to my post were unwarranted!
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Industry-based scientists finds vaccines safe.
The vaccine industry's tactics would make the executives at Big Tobacco who used similar tactics blush!
And our media, that is all too willing to keep those Big Pharma ads coming, will not dispute any of this, any more than the TV stations did with Big Tobacco ads, until Congress finally ended the legal ability to have such ads.
NickB79
(19,236 posts)And not only US researchers, but ones in all of Europe, Asia, South America, Australia, etc?
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)And they may claim the report is a conspiracy or some BS like it.
Archae
(46,327 posts)Using all the woo sellers' buzzwords.
"Big pharma," etc.