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Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
Tue May 6, 2014, 09:09 PM May 2014

Federal judge halts John Doe probe into Walker recall

Source: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel


A federal judge ordered a halt to the controversial John Doe investigation into campaign spending and fundraising by Gov. Scott Walker's campaign and other conservative groups during the high-profile recall elections.

U.S. District Judge Rudolph Randa issued the 26-page decision late Tuesday, calling on prosecutors to immediately stop the long-running, five-county investigation into possible illegal coordination between the various groups.

"The Defendants must cease all activities related to the investigation, return all property seized in the investigation from any individual or organization, and permanently destroy all copies of information and other materials obtained through the investigation," Randa wrote.

"Plaintiffs and others are herby relieved of any and every duty under Wisconsin law to cooperate further with Defendants' investigation," he wrote.

Special prosecutor Francis Schmitz said late Tuesday he expects to appeal to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago. "I'm virtually assured we will appeal this decision. I have to consult with the others and my attorney."

Read more: http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/federal-judge-halts-john-doe-probe-into-walker-recall-b99264341z1-258209431.html



Donald Downs, a professor of political science and law at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, said he would need to read the ruling before giving full comments. But the news of the ruling stunned him.

"Wow. This goes beyond anything I expected," Downs said.
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Federal judge halts John Doe probe into Walker recall (Original Post) Ellipsis May 2014 OP
Of course he did. Newsjock May 2014 #1
Whow. thanks for this. What a jerk! riversedge May 2014 #12
In 1992, Randa was appointed by President George H. W. Bush to become a federal district judge in th Thor_MN May 2014 #2
Figures James48 May 2014 #3
IOKIYAR Scuba May 2014 #4
Hmmm, must be something juicy in there... Blue Owl May 2014 #5
The confederacy is working like a well-oiled death machine. Judi Lynn May 2014 #6
The face of pure evil. Just one of many in WI... hue May 2014 #21
Looks like the Red Skull Half-Century Man May 2014 #25
What's wrong with his fucking lips? Lint Head May 2014 #27
Well, somebody's money Kelvin Mace May 2014 #7
Wake me when & if this nightmare is ever over.... hue May 2014 #8
From my Ohio perspective the Walker recall vote never passed my smell test Botany May 2014 #9
Disgusting. LeftOfWest May 2014 #10
I just read this about 10 min ago and am still stunned. I just riversedge May 2014 #11
the rich win, we, as always, lose. nt Javaman May 2014 #13
No, the rich does not always win Iliyah May 2014 #14
When did federal judges become state legislators? merrily May 2014 #15
The judge called for defacto7 May 2014 #17
Could not agree more. merrily May 2014 #18
As Scuba wrote, IOKIYAR... hue May 2014 #22
Sounds like someone was getting a little too close to the truth.... blackspade May 2014 #16
Maybe. If you can buy candidates, votes and elections, why not federal judges? merrily May 2014 #19
kick Ellipsis May 2014 #20
This Is An Incredible Statement From A Judge, Sir The Magistrate May 2014 #23
And here I thought officers of the court were supposed to enforce the law. malthaussen May 2014 #24
Circumventing the law does not necessarily mean Bonduel May 2014 #30
A Jurist from the "fuck your justice" school. Half-Century Man May 2014 #26
And Citizens' United rears its' ugly head again......... PumpkinAle May 2014 #28
Sorry, but this should have ended Bonduel May 2014 #29
"I read somewhere" TroglodyteScholar May 2014 #31
Actually it was in the ruling from the judge Bonduel May 2014 #35
Bag man. n/t Orsino May 2014 #32
Will this order be appealed? Gothmog May 2014 #33
It looks like it will be appealed. (We don't know when tho.) hue May 2014 #34
Order has been STAYED Gothmog May 2014 #36
New development... TroglodyteScholar May 2014 #37
Locking.... Randa's a fuckin' colostomy bag. Ellipsis May 2014 #38

Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
1. Of course he did.
Tue May 6, 2014, 09:16 PM
May 2014
http://judgepedia.org/Rudolph_Randa

He joined the court in 1992 after being nominated by President George H.W. Bush.

Randa was in the same graduating class as former governor of Wisconsin, Tommy G. Thompson.

In 1995, Judge Randa ruled that the 1994 Freedom of Access to Clinics Entrances Act was unconstitutional in banning "nonviolent, physical obstruction of reproductive health services clinics." Judge Randa ruled that Congress could not use its constitutional authority under the Commerce Clause to regulate abortion protests
 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
2. In 1992, Randa was appointed by President George H. W. Bush to become a federal district judge in th
Tue May 6, 2014, 09:18 PM
May 2014

In 1992, Randa was appointed by President George H. W. Bush to become a federal district judge in the Eastern District of Wisconsin.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
6. The confederacy is working like a well-oiled death machine.
Tue May 6, 2014, 09:35 PM
May 2014

Any chance to introduce justice to their frenzy to claim total power seems to get crushed.

They are not going to win, in the end. They are doomed to utter failure. They have no reason to exist. Greed and hatred just aren't enough.

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U.S. District Judge Rudolph Randa[/center]

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
25. Looks like the Red Skull
Wed May 7, 2014, 11:03 AM
May 2014

......with wispy hair...sitting in Grandma's chair...worried that he sat on his colostomy bag's tube.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
9. From my Ohio perspective the Walker recall vote never passed my smell test
Tue May 6, 2014, 10:49 PM
May 2014

The #s on the voting day never made any sense to me and Walker's anti recall
rallies prior to the vote pulled pitifull turnouts but the story that "people were mad
about the recall and so they voted for Walker" got legs. Republicans in many
cases have to cheat to win.


The Koch Brothers bought that vote.



 

LeftOfWest

(482 posts)
10. Disgusting.
Tue May 6, 2014, 10:58 PM
May 2014

School Boards, City Councils, Judges.


Stacked since Nixon and probably before on the right wing hate side.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
15. When did federal judges become state legislators?
Tue May 6, 2014, 11:31 PM
May 2014

Aren't Republicans the ones who are always complaining about things like that?

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.



Constitution of the United States.

I wonder what kind of pretzel Scalia is going to have to twist himself into to claim the Founders would have approved of this.

I also wonder which parts of the Bill of Rights are not dead letters anymore.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
17. The judge called for
Wed May 7, 2014, 12:15 AM
May 2014

returning and destruction of evidence as well as calling for non-cooperation. That's crazy.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
16. Sounds like someone was getting a little too close to the truth....
Tue May 6, 2014, 11:55 PM
May 2014

Rudolph Randa appears to be on the take.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
19. Maybe. If you can buy candidates, votes and elections, why not federal judges?
Wed May 7, 2014, 12:23 AM
May 2014

Or maybe he is just corrupt because he is that partisan, like Scalia. (Or is that Scalia is on the take, like Randa? Who knows?)

Thing is, what do we, the people, who are in theory supposed to have the ultimate power in this country, going to do about it?

For one thing, I think we should start calling for impeachments. We may not get them, but maybe some of the more partisan judges and Justices will get nervous. For example, FDR never got his plan to enlarge the SCOTUS passed by Congress, but the Justices got the message anyway.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
23. This Is An Incredible Statement From A Judge, Sir
Wed May 7, 2014, 08:09 AM
May 2014

'"The ( Wisconsin Club for Growth and its treasurer ) have found a way to circumvent campaign finance laws, and that circumvention should not and cannot be condemned or restricted. Instead, it should be recognized as promoting political speech, an activity that is 'ingrained in our culture,'" Randa wrote, quoting from a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision.'

When one 'circumvents' the law, one breaks it, and commits a crime....

malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
24. And here I thought officers of the court were supposed to enforce the law.
Wed May 7, 2014, 08:56 AM
May 2014

Where do these people learn this stuff? Seriously, it seems like they're all reading from the same catechism.

-- Mal

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
28. And Citizens' United rears its' ugly head again.........
Wed May 7, 2014, 11:16 AM
May 2014
In his decision, Randa cited the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision, which loosened campaign finance laws for political groups, in siding with O'Keefe and the Club for Growth.

"The plaintiffs have found a way to circumvent campaign finance laws, and that circumvention should not and cannot be condemned or restricted," Randa wrote. "Instead, it should be recognized as promoting political speech, an activity that is 'ingrained in our culture.'
"

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/a-federal-judge-just-called-an-end-to-scott-walker-s-recall-probe-20140507
 

Bonduel

(96 posts)
29. Sorry, but this should have ended
Wed May 7, 2014, 11:22 AM
May 2014

And the ones to blame are the incompetent people who ran this investigation. Don't get me wrong, walker should be nailed, but I don't like these open ended on going investigations. I wouldn't like it against a democrat so I don't like it against them either.

I read somewhere that when they were searching for evidence, they had a warrant but the defendants were held and not allowed to contact their attorneys. If that is true then that is wrong.

They could have busted Walker and his cronies. Their is evidence I'm sure. This type of behavior creates sympathy for these people. Not by the Democratic base but by independents and middle of the road people.

 

Bonduel

(96 posts)
35. Actually it was in the ruling from the judge
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:15 PM
May 2014

So if he is lying I'm sure the prosecutors will be able to prove it. If the judge is correct then shame on the prosecutors. They have mishandled this whole investigation. The public does not like an open ended case against anyone that drags on. It always looks like you don't have any real evidence against them. You just keep tossing things out hoping something will stick.

hue

(4,949 posts)
34. It looks like it will be appealed. (We don't know when tho.)
Wed May 7, 2014, 01:24 PM
May 2014

Special Prosecutor Francis Schmitz, a Republican assigned to the investigation said he plans on appealing to the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit in Chicago.

“I’m virtually assured we will appeal this decision,” Schmitz told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. “I have to consult with the others and my attorney” before making a final decision.


Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
36. Order has been STAYED
Wed May 7, 2014, 06:50 PM
May 2014

The judge's ruling was stayed and the investigation can continue http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/halt-to-john-doe-probe-lifts-obstacle-to-scott-walker-re-election-bid-b99264574z1-258293621.html

Less than 24 hours after a federal judge halted a probe into conservative groups and the campaign of Gov. Scott Walker, an appeals court blocked that ruling — allowing prosecutors to keep material they have gathered in the case.

The three-judge panel of the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago provided a means for U.S. District Rudolph Randa in Milwaukee to reissue his preliminary injunction stopping the investigation, but it said he cannot order prosecutors to destroy evidence they have collected so far.

Also Wednesday, Randa ruled a coalition of five media groups could intervene in the case in its attempt to unseal hundreds of pages of court filings that have been blacked out. He gave all sides a week to object to making that material public


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