Too much animal protein tied to higher diabetes risk

[onehandle]

Source: Reuters

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - People who eat the most protein, especially from animal sources, are more likely to be diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, according to a study of European adults.

The new study did not randomly assign participants to eat different amounts of protein, which would have yielded the strongest evidence. Instead, it compared the diets of people who went on to develop diabetes and those who did not get the disease. But the findings do align with other studies.

"Several previous studies have found that higher intake of total protein, especially animal protein, are associated with long-term risk of developing diabetes," said Dr. Frank Hu, from the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston. Hu, who was not involved in the new study, researches prevention of diabetes through diet and lifestyle.

"Substantial amounts of animal protein come from red meat and processed meat, which have been consistently associated with increased risk of diabetes," he told Reuters Health in an email.

Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/health/diabetes/Too_much_animal_protein_tied_to_higher_diabetes_risk.html

[LeftyMom]

1. You don't say.

[Skittles]

2. sure to give the anti-carb crowd the vapors

yes INDEED

[Psephos]

9. Nutritional opinion from a person named Skittles. ;-) n/t

[Skittles]

10. I LOVE Skittles

yes INDEED

[kentauros]

21. I always thought she was named after the miniature bowling game:

[former9thward]

13. How come Alaskan Eskimos don't get diabetes?

Except those who have switched to a more Western carb diet. Does that give you the vapors?

[LeftyMom]

15. I'm going to guess your expertise on the people you just described with an ethnic slur is profound.

[ronnie624]

18. Lol.

[former9thward]

24. I used the term which the peer reviewed science journal used.

Take it up with them. Nice try at deflecting from the point.

[LanternWaste]

38. Deflecting a "point" grounded merely in petulant tantrums seems well worth the time.

Deflecting a "point" grounded merely in petulant tantrums seems well worth one's time...

However, I'm quite sure you will allege it as something other than petulance... science, perhaps? Sincere curiosity, maybe? So many excuses... so many words.

[former9thward]

40. A rambling non-answer to anything in the thread...

Congrats!

[LittleGirl]

3. I call B.S!

It depends on the animal and how it's fed and raised. If I didn't eat meat every day and nearly every meal, I'd be 40 lbs overweight like I was when I tried the vegetarian way and found out, ha ha, I'm gluten and dairy intolerant. Now that I've cut those two food groups out, I feel better than ever. Meat is my food, not my poison.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

4. This kind of says it all...

"The new study did not randomly assign participants to eat different amounts of protein, which would have yielded the strongest evidence. Instead, it compared the diets of people who went on to develop diabetes and those who did not get the disease. But the findings do align with other studies."

[Z_California]

5. So let me get this straight

Those groups who ate the most animal protein tended to have a higher weight to height ratio. Fascinating worthless information.

Those groups who ate the most carbs will also have a higher weight to height ratio in any large group and will also have a higher diabetes risk.

Those groups who ate the most dietary fats will also have a higher weight to height ratio in any large group and will also have a higher diabetes risk.

Am I missing something here? Can't you pick anything and track the group that eats the most of it and find similar results? I bet most of the diabetics would've intersected all three groups.

I think the key is not getting fat.

[Psephos]

11. You nailed it.

Those who value gold-plated research and well-designed studies would do well to read Gary Taubes' books and website.

The design and assumptions of this "study" would not pass muster in a high-school class.

[neffernin]

41. Protein has allowed me to lose weight

and I assume that weighing less > avoiding protein when it comes to diabetes.

I call my diet the "simple math diet". Eat less (portion control) and of what you do eat, try to consume less calories.

Fat -> 9 calories per gram, will satiate hunger.
Carbs -> 4 calories per gram, will not satiate hunger.
Protein -> 4 calories per gram, will satiate hunger. Builds muscle (which increases your metabolism so you burn more calories).

3500 calories used over what you intake = 1lb of fat loss, so 500 calorie deficit every day of the week. With a high protein diet this is 1000x easier as you get filled with far less calories.

[Helen Borg]

6. Bad summary of study...

"People who eat the most protein, especially from animal sources" . From this, you would think that plant protein is bad too. Yet, the article says that plant protein was NOT associated with diabetes... As usual, just read the original study, because the media always reports these things in a pathetic way.

[lunasun]

16. +1 !! exactly

[jtuck004]

7. So eat the Mediterranean Diet and hope the planet doesn't starve everyone first. n/t

[former9thward]

8. So Alaskan Eskimos must have high diabetes, right?

Just the opposite. The lowest rate among ethnic groups in the U.S.

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/11/9/693.full.pdf

[Psephos]

12. Interesting that the traditional Inuit diet was also half saturated fat.

Fat plus meat was 90% of the diet.

No heart disease, no diabetes, no obesity, low cancer.

As soon as they switched to a Western carb-centric diet, all of these "diseases" appeared within ten or twenty years.

[lunasun]

17. also high on seafood and some raw which makes the meat very high in vitamin C

and include grasses and seaweeds, which many in lower US could benefit from in their diet
meat and fat keep them warm
low carbs
In the absence of carbohydrates, protein is broken down in the liver through gluconeogenesis and utilized as an energy source. Inuit studied in the 1970s were found to have abnormally large livers, presumably to assist in this process. Their urine volumes were also high, a result of the excess urea produced by gluconeogenesis.[9]

Traditional Inuit diets derive approximately 50% of their calories from fat, 30-35% from protein and 15-20% of their calories from carbohydrates, largely in the form of glycogen from the raw meat they consumed.[10] This high fat content provides valuable energy and prevents protein poisoning, which historically was sometimes a problem in late winter when game animals grew lean through winter starvation. Because the fats of the Inuit's wild-caught game are largely monounsaturated and rich in omega-3 fatty acids, the diet does not pose the same health risks as a typical Western high-fat diet.[11]

Vitamins and minerals which are typically derived from plant sources are nonetheless present in most Inuit diets. Vitamins A and D are present in the oils and livers of cold-water fishes and mammals. Vitamin C is obtained through sources such as caribou liver, kelp, whale skin, and seal brain; because these foods are typically eaten raw or frozen, the vitamin C they contain, which would be destroyed by cooking, is instead preserved.[12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_diet
in other words they are not eating CAFO hamburgers and throwing away the bun. They are unique in their adaption to the environment they are in and not a good comparison to SAD eaters with high protein intake which by the way after the DMS2 develops , kidney / cardio issues can ensue

[former9thward]

25. So in other words it is not as simple as "animal protein" causing diabetes...

As the OP stated.

[geretogo]

14. Wait untill 6 months from now . They will say increased protien prevents diabetes . They do this all

the time .

[Spitfire of ATJ]

22. I'm sure Burger King will pitch in for that one.

[Buddha2B]

19. Complete Nonsense

Diabetes, a condition where the pancreas cannot produce enough insulin to metabolise carbohydrates..... is caused by excessive protein?

Well eat up those donuts and pastries boys and girls! Break out the softdrink!

Have any of you tried to deliberately eat excess protein? Even body builders have to choke it down, or drink it.

[KT2000]

20. Protein from animal sources

contains fat. The fat stores every fat soluble chemical that animal was exposed to - dioxins, organophosphate pesticides and many many more.
Ingesting that fat just transfers the pollutants in the animal fat to the human's fat.

Ex.: Dioxin has been linked to diabetes type II

[freshwest]

42. Makes sense. Also animals kept in close confinement suffer inflamed muscle tissue, it may convert.

Not to mention antibiotics given to combat unhealthy living conditions. Also they get cancer in their livers and I've seen cow livers with the cancers cut out for sale, like swiss cheese made of meat.

I don't know if any of these be converted or pollute the human body, we know that mad cow can't be cooked out of beef, so what people think of as normal cautions to take - such as it was once taught to cook pork to kill parasites, but it's amazing we live as long as we do considering the garbage we take in.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

23. Did the animals have diabetes?

[djean111]

26. Oh, gosh, I better start shoveling in high fructose corn syrup, sugar, and flour!

Sales must be down. My 19 YO grandson now checks labels for HFCS, sugars, soy, non-animal fat.
Which is why so much money is being spent in order to make food labels as uninformative as possible.
We quit corn altogether. I explained that corn is NOT a vegetable, it is a grain.
I agree that all the shit they feed cattle and chicken may make meat suspect. Has nothing to do with the actual meat being bad for you, IMO.

I will be 70 in a few years, have almost always stuck to a low carb way of eating - and not a glimmer of diabetes or high cholesterol.
That is MY controlled long term study. I will stick to it.

[upaloopa]

28. You gave up corn to eat meat?

I don't get the logic.

[djean111]

29. I gave up corn because I do not need to eat corn.

It is a grain, it is high-carb, it is not necessary to me at all.
I was eating meat and low-carb veggies anyway!

A cup of yellow corn has about 123 grams of carbs.
A cup of asparagus has 3 grams of carbs.
Nutritionally, corn beats asparagus for iron, but I eat other stuff for iron.
For me, corn is unnecessary, and kind of downright unhealthy - I don't need all those carbs.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5687/2
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2316/2

[upaloopa]

30. Ok I eat corn I am 68 and as healthy as you are.

I don't think one size fits all. I don't eat meat.

[djean111]

31. Great!

Absolutely!!!! one size does not fit all - which is why your seeming ridicule of those who eat meat has no logic. Pointy teeth indeed.
Also I don't think it logical to assume I gave up corn in order to eat meat.
I gave up corn because I do not want that many empty carbs and calories. It is not a vegetable. I don't need it.
Every once in a while I will eat a bowl of creamy grits with lots of butter and pepper, though. Maybe once or twice a year, as much of a treat for me as ice cream would be.

Rather have a nice bowl of organic chia seeds with a lot of coconut milk and a handful of strawberries or blueberries, and a smidge of Stevia. Actually pretty good!

[upaloopa]

33. I don't ridicule people who eat meat because they eat meat

I ridicule the ideas they use to prove a vegetarian diet is not what we are supposed to have, like saying canine teeth means we are supposed to eat meat or that you don't get enough protein if you don't eat meat.
I don't care what people eat. We all have to make that decision every day for ourselves.

[upaloopa]

27. Wait! Vegetarians don't get enough protein

eat meat!
Wait we have a couple of pointed teeth. Eat meat!

[LanternWaste]

39. Males have nipples. Males produce milk!!!

" we have a couple of pointed teeth. Eat meat! "

Males have nipples. Males produce milk!!!
(Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Insert distinction without a difference here)

[RebelOne]

32. I think this study is probably true.

Everyone on my mother's side developed Type II diabetes in their 60s and 70s. My sister now has it and she is 66. My other sister who died from kidney cancer had it and she was only 54. I am 75 and became a vegetarian when I was in my late 50s. I had a pre-op examination in February before cataract surgery. I expected that I would be diagnosed with Type II, but I was pleasantly surprised to learn that my blood sugar count was normal. I think I am the only one of all the relatives who has not developed it in my later years, but who knows what will happen in the future.

[djean111]

34. A lot of my aunts got type II but not because of meat - because of the ridiclous amount

of sugary and starchy crap they ate. They loaded everything possible with sugar. Had to have dessert, lunch and dinner and then snack. And not any exercise to speak of. Blargh.

[RebelOne]

35. I do not even have sugar in my house.

I use Splenda for sweetening. And I do not buy any desserts that are not sugar free. I love ice cream, but only buy Kroger's sugar-free ice cream. I love pasta which is very starchy, but I try to limit how often I eat it.

[djean111]

37. I use Sweet Leaf Stevia, it does not have any scary (to me) chemicals.

For some reason I always assume that vegetarians also skip sugar!
I don't eat that much meat any more, but I sure do like it. And butter.

[marlakay]

36. Processed meat has sugar in it

That's the only thing I can think of for this or they didn't look at whole diet, like was person low carb.