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Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:42 PM Apr 2013

So that's what Assange has been doing inside the embassy! WikiLeaks releases 1.7m US diplomatic and

Source: dailymail.co.uk

So that's what Assange has been doing inside the embassy! WikiLeaks releases 1.7m US diplomatic and intelligence reports covering every country in the world

Whistleblowing website WikiLeaks today published more than 1.7million U.S. records covering diplomatic or intelligence reports on every country in the world.

The data released today includes more than 1.7million U.S. diplomatic records from 1973 to 1976 - covering a traffic of cables, intelligence reports and congressional correspondence.

WikiLeaks described the Public Library of US Diplomacy (PlusD) as the world's largest searchable collection of U.S. confidential, or formerly confidential, diplomatic communications.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305437/Julian-Assange-WikiLeaks-release-1-7m-US-diplomatic-intelligence-reports.html



Public Library of US Diplomacy (PlusD)
http://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/
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So that's what Assange has been doing inside the embassy! WikiLeaks releases 1.7m US diplomatic and (Original Post) Paul E Ester Apr 2013 OP
A member of the Assange Defamation Squad OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #1
Leaves the toilet seat up!?!? DeSwiss Apr 2013 #11
As opposed to the benevolent sexism of putting the seat down? hughee99 Apr 2013 #29
No. DeSwiss Apr 2013 #33
LOL...You are so right OnyxCollie LiberalLovinLug Apr 2013 #22
Misleading headline according to this paragraph buried in the article: Socal31 Apr 2013 #2
Good catch, wikicollated...nt Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #5
It's a terrible headline because it's Daily Mail. nt Hissyspit Apr 2013 #7
"Wikidatacondensing" SkyDaddy7 Apr 2013 #15
40 years and still some of the docs are classified. Ash_F Apr 2013 #3
Actually I wouldnt hesitate to bet that some of it was classified to protect sources as well as cstanleytech Apr 2013 #16
Couple canned searches to play with. Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #4
Wow, that database is very sophisticated Ash_F Apr 2013 #6
The New Privatization! Fuddnik Apr 2013 #9
Really, you would think the Rightwingers would sing this thing's praises. /nt Ash_F Apr 2013 #10
Awww. shit! Fuddnik Apr 2013 #8
K&R DeSwiss Apr 2013 #12
3 years covering the fall of Nixon and Ford,...sounds like a party. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #13
BBC News - Wikileaks publishes 1.7m US diplomatic records dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #14
It seems to be information that's already available to everyone: struggle4progress Apr 2013 #17
Whistleblowing is where you zero in on a wrong treestar Apr 2013 #18
Here, it's not even dumping: all these documents were already available from the US government, struggle4progress Apr 2013 #19
Next up for Wikileaks: The Greater Metropolitan Washington D.C. phonebook! randome Apr 2013 #20
"Wikileaks names names in new release of DC white pages!" struggle4progress Apr 2013 #21
I'm sure Kissinger Associates are delighted at your efforts to downplay this. Here's their number. leveymg Apr 2013 #24
I'm sure Kissinger's clients are well-aware of Kissinger's power-based real-politik approach, struggle4progress Apr 2013 #27
On his clients and their ethics, we surely agree. As for the Nat'l Security Archive at GWU, I've leveymg Apr 2013 #34
oh my treestar Apr 2013 #25
Congratulations! Your efforts to get the dupe thread frozen kicked this one into the top 25! leveymg Apr 2013 #26
Yeah, I didn't want to see 1.7 million new LBN threads on forty-year-old long-available struggle4progress Apr 2013 #28
He may not have broken any law this time, but it was a newsworthy public service anyway. eom leveymg Apr 2013 #30
Maybe or maybe not, but IMO in any case not every old cable in his "release" becomes LBN thereby struggle4progress Apr 2013 #31
Meanwhile, journalists across the world are combing through names of overseas tax evaders... Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #23
And it's quite wonderful that the one does not deny the other... LanternWaste Apr 2013 #32
 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
1. A member of the Assange Defamation Squad
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:50 PM
Apr 2013

will be along shortly to tell us that the Ecuadorians want Assange to leave because he raids the fridge and leaves the toilet seat up.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
29. As opposed to the benevolent sexism of putting the seat down?
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 06:00 PM
Apr 2013

Women are more than capable of doing that for themselves and don't need a man's assistance.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
33. No.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 09:37 PM
Apr 2013

As opposed to just doing it because it's the right thing to do. At least that's how my mother taught me and she was definitely one exceptional women.

- Thank you for your eisegesis.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,179 posts)
22. LOL...You are so right OnyxCollie
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:01 PM
Apr 2013

The Three Amigos, they're here, just scroll down starting with #17.

Stumbling over themselves to try and see who can discredit Wikileaks in the most asinine way.
They can't make up their minds if Wikileaks is a dangerous organization revealing information that is just too sensitive for the fragile eyes of the public and best left to the authorities, or if they are laughable and their releases are redundant and useless.

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
2. Misleading headline according to this paragraph buried in the article:
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:50 PM
Apr 2013

"The collection published today has not been leaked, but Mr Assange said WikiLeaks had been working for the past year to analyse and assess a vast amount of data held at the U.S. national archives before releasing it in a searchable form.

Mr Assange said WikiLeaks had developed sophisticated technical systems to deal with ‘complex and voluminous’ data.

Top secret documents were not available, while some others were lost or irreversibly corrupted for periods including December 1975 and March and June 1976, said Mr Assange"


Wikidatacondensing just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
3. 40 years and still some of the docs are classified.
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:51 PM
Apr 2013

Gotta make sure the criminals are all good and dead before they see justice.

cstanleytech

(26,347 posts)
16. Actually I wouldnt hesitate to bet that some of it was classified to protect sources as well as
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 08:14 AM
Apr 2013

the family of sources of which some could very well still be alive and if they end up murdered because of wikileaks leaking that info about them wouldnt that make Assage an accessory to murder?

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
6. Wow, that database is very sophisticated
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:00 AM
Apr 2013

Wikileaks provides Americans a service their government should have done in the first place.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
9. The New Privatization!
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:12 AM
Apr 2013

Or Pirateization.



I hate it when you invent a new word, and spell check wants to tell you how to spell it.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
14. BBC News - Wikileaks publishes 1.7m US diplomatic records
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 04:05 AM
Apr 2013

Wikileaks has published more than 1.7 million US diplomatic and intelligence reports from the 1970s.

The website's founder, Julian Assange, said the documents revealed the "vast range and scope" of US activity around the world.

The collection covers the period when Henry Kissinger was US Secretary of State and National Security Adviser.

>

The latest collection, entitled the Public Library of US Diplomacy (PlusD), comprises diplomatic cables, intelligence reports and congressional correspondence running from the beginning of 1973 to the end of 1976.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22062317

The Public Library of US Diplomacy (PlusD) linik here : https://search.wikileaks.org/plusd/?q=&qtfrom=1972-01-01&qtto=1972-12-31

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
17. It seems to be information that's already available to everyone:
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 09:45 AM
Apr 2013
... The data, which has not been leaked, comprises diplomatic records from the beginning of 1973 to the end of 1976, covering a variety of diplomatic traffic including cables, intelligence reports and congressional correspondence. Julian Assange said WikiLeaks had been working for the past year to analyse and assess a vast amount of data held at the US national archives before releasing it in a searchable form ...
WikiLeaks publishes 1.7m US diplomatic records
Julian Assange says 1973-76 reports, including many by Henry Kissinger, show vast range and scope of US activity
guardian.co.uk, Monday 8 April 2013 04.30 EDT

... The collection published on Monday has not been leaked, but Mr Assange said WikiLeaks had been working for the past year to analyse and assess a vast amount of data held at the US national archives before releasing it in a searchable form ...
More WikiLeaks material published
08 April 2013

... “The government can’t be trusted with its own archives,” explains WikiLeaks spokesperson, Kristinn Hrafnsson, justifying the shift from contemporary leaked cables to declassified (but obscure) documents .... the documents .. were obtained from the National Archives and Record Administration (NARA) ...
http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/07/wikileaks-goes-google-develops-searchable-database-for-millions-of-kissinger-cables/
WikiLeaks Goes Google, Develops Searchable Database For Millions Of ‘Kissinger Cables’
Gregory Ferenstein


treestar

(82,383 posts)
18. Whistleblowing is where you zero in on a wrong
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:11 AM
Apr 2013

1.7 million documents is not whistleblowing. It's just dumping.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
19. Here, it's not even dumping: all these documents were already available from the US government,
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:59 PM
Apr 2013

and that's how Wikileaks got them

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
24. I'm sure Kissinger Associates are delighted at your efforts to downplay this. Here's their number.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:05 PM
Apr 2013

(202) 872-0300

They probably hire summer interns - you may be a good candidate.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
27. I'm sure Kissinger's clients are well-aware of Kissinger's power-based real-politik approach,
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:39 PM
Apr 2013

and I expect that will be one reason they're pleased to use his consulting services. Personal accusations, of the sort you make, are simply distasteful

If the use of declassified documents, to illuminate history, is a topic that interests you, you may wish to familiarize yourself the website of the long-established National Security Archive, a nonprofit group that obtains documents shedding important light on specific events, such as the overthrow of Allende

NIXON ON CHILE INTERVENTION: WHITE HOUSE TAPE ACKNOWLEDGES INSTRUCTIONS TO BLOCK SALVADOR ALLENDE ...
DECLASSIFIED KISSINGER TRANSCRIPTS REVEAL STRONG SUPPORT FOR PINOCHET FOLLOWING CHILEAN COUP

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 110
February 3 , 2004
Washington D.C., September 10, 2008 - On the eve of the thirty-fifth anniversary of the military coup in Chile, the National Security Archive today published for the first time formerly secret transcripts of Henry Kissinger’s telephone conversations that set in motion a massive U.S. effort to overthrow the newly-elected socialist government of Salvador Allende ... After Nixon spoke directly to Rogers, Kissinger recorded a conversation in which the Secretary of State agreed that “we ought, as you say, to cold-bloodedly decide what to do and then do it,” but warned it should be done “discreetly so that it doesn’t backfire” ... In their first substantive conversation following the military coup in Chile, Kissinger and Nixon discuss the U.S. role in the overthrow of Allende, and the adverse reaction in the new media. When Nixon asks if the U.S. “hand” will show in the coup, Kissinger admits “we helped them” ...


There's a difference between the hard work of a group such as the National Security Archive, which actually provides information and insight, and the random mass dumping Assange practices, which seems primarily motivated by Assange's need for attention

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
34. On his clients and their ethics, we surely agree. As for the Nat'l Security Archive at GWU, I've
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:33 PM
Apr 2013

been reading their materials for a couple decades, and find that like any single source, it needs to be supplemented.

I did a thesis in the '90s on the influence of American foreign policy on the Chilean political process and economy -- I even spent some time in these same Archives, so I'm aware of many of these facts. Many were revealed long ago, but only now are some previously classified primary U.S. sources coming out, and more importantly reaching a wider audience. So, yes, a lot of what Wikileaks reveals is old and familiar news to some, but we can now see confirmed in undeniable form what the rest of the world, particularly the Chileans, already knew all too well. You don't seem to know enough about the subject to understand how much historical value these documents really have.

Wiki isn't just about Assange, it's about how lies poison nations, but some will try to salvage what's left of the truth. Silencing one man won't reverse either process.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
26. Congratulations! Your efforts to get the dupe thread frozen kicked this one into the top 25!
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:16 PM
Apr 2013

E for effort

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
28. Yeah, I didn't want to see 1.7 million new LBN threads on forty-year-old long-available
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:53 PM
Apr 2013

declassified US documents, that St Julian downloaded legally and easily from a public US government archive site then "released" just so he could grab headlines and rake in cash as a great transparency campaigner

 

Comrade_McKenzie

(2,526 posts)
23. Meanwhile, journalists across the world are combing through names of overseas tax evaders...
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:11 PM
Apr 2013

Obtained by neither Wikileaks, nor Anonymous.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
32. And it's quite wonderful that the one does not deny the other...
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 07:43 PM
Apr 2013

And it's quite wonderful that the one does not deny the other, and even more wonderful that we may hopefully enjoy the fruits of all their labors.

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