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Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:13 PM Jan 2013

Paul Watson resigns as leader of anti-whaling organisation Sea Shepherd

Source: Globe and Mail

The head of a controversial anti-whaling organization has resigned in order to comply with a U.S. court order.

Paul Watson issued a statement saying he has stepped down as leader of Sea Shepherd.

Mr. Watson says his decision was based on an injunction issued in the U.S. last month that barred the organization from being within 450 metres of Japanese whaling vessels.

Mr. Watson, who holds dual Canadian-U.S. citizenship, says he was personally named in the injunction and must step down in order to avoid criminal charges.

The Toronto-born anti-whaling crusader says he has resigned all positions with the organization, which has chapters in the U.S. and Australia.

He says campaigns against Japanese fleets will continue under the leadership of former Australian senator Bob Brown.

Read more: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/paul-watson-resigns-as-leader-of-anti-whaling-organisation-sea-shepherd/article7039373/

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Paul Watson resigns as leader of anti-whaling organisation Sea Shepherd (Original Post) Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2013 OP
The Canadians should be up in arms about this KamaAina Jan 2013 #1
I doubt the Canadians will do anything obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #2
Unfortunately LCH Jan 2013 #9
Oh, right. Curmudgeoness Jan 2013 #11
"Seal cull"?? Canuckistanian Jan 2013 #14
Yes, the seal massacre, where they club seals obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #16
My amazement was over the word "cull" Canuckistanian Jan 2013 #24
well said. Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2013 #29
Clubbing defenseless animals obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #17
They have been doing it for a couple centuries AgingAmerican Jan 2013 #20
Brilliant! Don't know which member of MIRT it was but I love it! Nihil Jan 2013 #30
Canada will sit on their fins. smknz Jan 2013 #7
Well said. n/t Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2013 #8
Yup. Canuckistanian Jan 2013 #15
A shame - he did the world's ecosystem a great service derby378 Jan 2013 #3
You have done a great job Paul Watson, I hope Sea Shepard can continue to be effective without you! DrewFlorida Jan 2013 #4
+1000 Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2013 #5
Nonsense...what makes you think he is going anywhere? ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #27
"resigned all positions with the organization" Turborama Jan 2013 #32
Take another look at which organizations he resigned from and what positions ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #33
"ALL positions" in "Sea Shepherd" Turborama Jan 2013 #34
That does not mean he cannot be a member and their fleet skipper ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #35
Again, it specifically states: "*all* positions within the organization" Turborama Jan 2013 #36
Look at the positions he resigned from ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #37
Where? Turborama Jan 2013 #38
Paul will find another greatness to outlet his immense courage. Dont call me Shirley Jan 2013 #6
K&R!~ KoKo Jan 2013 #10
I am not sure that there is anyone with more guts than Watson Curmudgeoness Jan 2013 #12
I question that too. Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2013 #13
I was wondering that, too obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #18
I have great respect for Bob soaky Jan 2013 #19
Well, he certainly is no slouch. Curmudgeoness Jan 2013 #22
He has some very brave underlings AgingAmerican Jan 2013 #21
No, he will never retire. Curmudgeoness Jan 2013 #23
Kick! n/t Tx4obama Jan 2013 #25
What power does a U.S. court have in this matter? earthside Jan 2013 #26
Sizable as it turns out ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #28
When you're the biggest bully on the block, you get away with it ... Nihil Jan 2013 #31
Watson can always form a new org. Great Caesars Ghost Jan 2013 #39
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
1. The Canadians should be up in arms about this
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:25 PM
Jan 2013
Mr. Watson, who holds dual Canadian-U.S. citizenship, says he was personally named in the injunction


but they won't be, not as long as that snivelling little toady Harper is around.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
2. I doubt the Canadians will do anything
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:29 PM
Jan 2013

They still allow the seal massacre every year, and literally protect those doing the killing.

 

LCH

(2 posts)
9. Unfortunately
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:34 PM
Jan 2013

the seal cull is a necessary evil required to return the eco system (and fish stocks) back into balance after years of abuse.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
11. Oh, right.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:56 PM
Jan 2013

It is the fault of the seals that the fish stocks are depleted. Yep. And it is the fault of whale piss that the oceans are warming.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
14. "Seal cull"??
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:20 PM
Jan 2013

Please....
After humans have been depleting the cod stock almost to the point of extinction, it necessary to kill seals for some kind of perverted "balance"?

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
24. My amazement was over the word "cull"
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jan 2013

It's a HUNT. "Cull" implies a scientifically informed and CONTROLLED killing of a species that is overrunning it's environment.

The seal hunt is NOT controlled, nor is it recommended by scientific studies.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
29. well said.
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:30 AM
Jan 2013

But, that said, I've come to peace over the last decade or so about the seal hunt that I think is fair: Let FN people hunt seal for food and pelts for their own consumption.... But make Seal fur, meet and carved trinkets illegal around the world. Remove the 'market' from the equation. Successive Canadian governments of Liberal and Conservative types have not/will not do either.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
30. Brilliant! Don't know which member of MIRT it was but I love it!
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 09:24 AM
Jan 2013

"...the troll cull is a necessary evil required to return the eco system back into balance after years of abuse. "







 

smknz

(30 posts)
7. Canada will sit on their fins.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:23 PM
Jan 2013

You are right. The Canadian government was voted in by 37% of the 60% who actually voted. That means that less then 25% of eligible voters put these clowns in power. How's that for democracy. They are a group of neoliberal republican wannabe's who will never stand up or dissagree with American policy.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
15. Yup.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:28 PM
Jan 2013

The liberal vote was fractured by 4 separate parties - The Liberals, The NDP, The Bloc and the Greens.

The Liberal Party was all but destroyed by the Sponsorship scandal.

This is almost the reverse of 1993, where Conservatives almost vanished into history.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
3. A shame - he did the world's ecosystem a great service
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:34 PM
Jan 2013

Ginny once talked about serving with Sea Shepherd for a while, but poor health discouraged her from pursuing it further.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
5. +1000
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jan 2013

He was very effective as a lightning rod garnering attention to the cause, and is leaving some pretty big shoes to fill.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
27. Nonsense...what makes you think he is going anywhere?
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:21 PM
Jan 2013

He resigned some corporate positions as part of legal maneuvering. Nothing there says he is not going to continue in place as the skipper of the fleet?

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
32. "resigned all positions with the organization"
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 10:10 AM
Jan 2013

ALL poisitons.

This means he will have NO position with the organization.

Position: a post of employment.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
35. That does not mean he cannot be a member and their fleet skipper
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 10:46 AM
Jan 2013

The positions he resigned from are those with legal governance capacity within the organization. Its not like he is going to apply for asylum somewhere and disappear

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
36. Again, it specifically states: "*all* positions within the organization"
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 10:58 AM
Jan 2013

It does not state:"all positions within the organization with legal governance capacity"

Unless you've read something else somewhere else that says otherwise?

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
38. Where?
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:19 AM
Jan 2013

In the article that says he's resigned from *all* positions?

He could be getting a lift somewhere and sunbathing on that ship, for all we know.

LOL this is getting ridick!

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
12. I am not sure that there is anyone with more guts than Watson
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:00 PM
Jan 2013

but I am hoping that Brown has it in him.

And exactly what jurisdiction does the US have in this? They are barring an international organization from getting close to Japanese fuckwads? I am not sure how that works.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
13. I question that too.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:07 PM
Jan 2013

Theres not much info about this particular story yet, but I think the international noose is tightening for Watson to step down like this. I suspect he'll be arrested somewhere soon.

soaky

(126 posts)
19. I have great respect for Bob
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:41 PM
Jan 2013

Was very disappointed when he retired from politics last year, but glad he's gone to Sea Shepherd.

This is a bit out of date but gives a good overview http://australianpolitics.com/parties/greens/07-05-10_bob-brown-biography.pdf

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
22. Well, he certainly is no slouch.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jan 2013

The thing about Watson was his ability to garner lots of attention. He knew when to go public, who to go to, and where to go. And after watching Whale Wars, I was also impressed by his knowledge of seamanship. He is a man of many talents. And this ongoing crusade has to have continued publicity and action.

I always wanted to go fight with them. Alas, I am too old and beat up to keep up the rigors of the fight. Also, I hate the cold.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
21. He has some very brave underlings
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:23 PM
Jan 2013

But he will never be replaced. He will, however, continue to be the pied piper for the cause. I can't see this guy ever retiring.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
23. No, he will never retire.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:29 PM
Jan 2013

And I am sure, that if it is true and he does get arrested, he will not go quietly. Nor would he regret anything he did. In fact, I am sure that the whole thing would be a circus, and he would be the ringleader.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
26. What power does a U.S. court have in this matter?
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:16 PM
Jan 2013

How can the U.S. government have any jurisdiction on the high seas?

And, even if Watson doesn't hold a 'position' or 'office' with Sea Shepherd technically, what is to stop him from still being a participant with the group?

I don't think this is the end of Watson's relationship with Sea Shepard. This is just another legal obstacle to overcome.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
28. Sizable as it turns out
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:28 PM
Jan 2013

There are multiple nations with active warrants for him and a court presumably with jurisdiction (otherwise it would have been tossed) has also issued an injunction. Given the level of international cooperation if/when Watson sets foot on just about any nations soil, he will be arrested. Welcome to international cooperation

The resignations were just legal maneuvering. Nothing to indicate he will not still lead the fleet.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
31. When you're the biggest bully on the block, you get away with it ...
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 09:27 AM
Jan 2013

... for a while anyway ... and then start screaming about "Terrorism!" when everyone
else is thinking "Serves you right" ...

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