Spokesman: George H.W. Bush in intensive care

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

Source: Boston.com

HOUSTON (AP) — A spokesman says former President George H.W. Bush is in the intensive care unit at a Houston hospital.

Bush’s spokesman, Jim McGrath, said Wednesday evening that the former president has been in the ICU at Methodist Hospital since Sunday.

No details were immediately provided. But earlier Wednesday, McGrath said a fever that kept Bush in the hospital over Christmas had gotten worse and that doctors had put him on a liquids-only diet.

A bronchitis-like cough initially brought Bush to the hospital on Nov. 23.


Read more: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/2012/12/26/spokesman-george-bush-intensive-care/nP4HMp5YzEqAijjmxC2NCI/story.html

[Siwsan]

1. Bush Sr. has been looking kind of rough for a while, now, so this doesn't surprise me

I wish I could work up some sort of sympathy, but since I can't say anything nice about the man, I won't say anything at all.

[Awknid]

3. When I compare him to his son, I can say a lot more nice things than you'd think

I hope he is not in pain.

[Siwsan]

6. True. I could say nicer things about Rasputin than I could about Jr.

Most of the Bush family, or at least the ones in politics, seems to be ethically deficient.

[pasto76]

22. he wasnt a very good president, but his war went 10000% better than 43s

you know, restraint. When you have all that firepower at your command, it is admirable not to lay waste to everything.

he wasnt a very good president, but he wasnt a shithead like his son.

[niyad]

27. remind me again why we had that lovely little war

[rbixby]

32. I think when you boil it down

Some rich guys were standing to lose a lot of money, and they just happened to be rich guys that have something we want, whereas, the rich guy who started it was someone we didn't like, and wasn't a good friend of the Bush family.

I do admire the restraint though.

[cpwm17]

46. The Cold War had just ended and we needed a new enemy

Saddam fit the bill. That's why HW Bush started our twenty year mass murder campaign against Iraq.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

54. I think Saddam Hussein and GHWB were buds

from way back. Then GHWB found the friendship inconvenient. Bad for Saddam.

Manuel Noriega also knows the "benefits" of being a former friend of GHWB.

I think the war was personal.

[niyad]

5. on the other hand, as alice roosevelt longworth used to say, "if you can't say anything nice about

somebody, come sit by me"

[Solly Mack]

15. or me.

[condoleeza]

38. Or me, n/t

[dflprincess]

66. Count me in n/t

[indepat]

23. Alice was a pistol whose father felt he could either run the country or keep Alice under control -

but he certainly couldn't do both.

[niyad]

29. exactly right

[Le Taz Hot]

71. She certainly came in handy

when it was time to betray her mother by facilitating her father's liaisons with his mistress who was with him when he died. Eleanor found out after the fact. Double betrayal. One of the greatest First Lady's we've ever had and her children hated her -- thought she shouldn't be involved in the country's politics. Not ladylike don't 'cha know.

[Bossy Monkey]

75. Alice was TR's daughter. n/t

[BigDemVoter]

8. Amen

Same here.

[CountAllVotes]

11. +1

ditto

[Auggie]

26. +2

[Cooley Hurd]

2. Get well, Mr President

[wisteria]

61. +1 n/t

[cleanhippie]

88. Get well? He is sucking up expensive and valuable resources that those with less NEED!

Aside from him being a giant asshole, he has lived a long, productive, and fruitful life. While I will not dance on his grave or wish him ill, I will not wish him recovery either. His time in existence is at an end, I see no reason to prolong it, especially when doing so comes at the expense of others.

[Cooley Hurd]

89. Are you frigging serious?

People in need will not get care in a place catering to the very rich. Does our medical system suck? Yes... a great deal. But pissing on a dying man has nothing to do with that. In fact, it's very negative karma. Perhaps the darkest kind. Enjoy your karma... you now own it.

[cleanhippie]

90. I see the problem.

You believe in cosmic karma. Perhaps this is just George's karma coming back around... Own that!

[Cooley Hurd]

92. He's 88... that's some slo-mo karma...

Nice try, though...

[cleanhippie]

94. Yeah, that was my point.

Next time, try.

[wendylaroux]

4. Sad time for the family.

Feel sorry for anyone going through this.

[wisteria]

62. +1 n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

7. As someone who's lost a grandfather and a father, I pray for his family.

It's never easy. I'm sure to them, he's their world.

[gadjitfreek]

9. Wishing you the best, Mr. President

Sure, he might not have been our choice and for the time he seemed like an ideologue but compared to most of the clowns running the GOP today we was downright moderate. Before that, though, he is a human being and I wish him well. if this is to be it for him, then I hope it's quick and peaceful. If not, then a speedy recovery. Whatever will be will be but it's not cool to wish him ill just because his opinions differ from yours. That's something conservatives do.

[grasswire]

28. false equivalence alert nt

[formercia]

10. The only thing that makes me sad about this

is that he and his evil namesake will likely never be prosecuted for War Crimes.

My first-hand experience with him had shown him to be an evil man, not worthy of anyone's respect.

The Bush name will always be a stain on the Presidency. May he rot in Hell.

[Politicalboi]

33. I feel the same

I only wish there was a hell for him. The only hell on earth I ever saw of him was when he was crying because someone called Jeb names. He's pathetic.

[condoleeza]

39. Well, said formercia

[dflprincess]

63. Thank you

I've never been one to believe that death (or being close to it) turns an asshole into a saint. All the evil Poppy has done will not die with him.

[Alamuti Lotus]

12. There is something intrinsically wrong..

with a person who sent thousands and thousands of people to an early grave over a long sustained career, dying comfortably in a warm bed while being well cared-for in his old age. There are so many thousands of people on five continents that were never given that chance thanks to his work over the years, to say nothing of the fine work of his spawn to keep the tradition of suffering and profits going, but perhaps that sort of thing isn't really polite to inconveniently remember at such at time.

[dixiegrrrrl]

45. I know if I had a cough and bronchitis, I would not be admitted to a hospital

I would end up sitting in a crowded Dr. office for up to an hour or more to see the doc
and be handed a script, then have drive across town to wait to have the script filled
then come home and take care of the animals and house while I waited for the meds to to work.
Because I earned all my money in the non-profit clinics, taking care of other people, and saving more than a few lives,
so there was no golden parachute when I retired.
THAT's what I know.
And I am not alone, either, am I?

[Alamuti Lotus]

52. rather like the English Princess who was hospitalized for morning sickness!!

the absurd largess of their class(*) raises a question--is this relative frivolity the reason why they have so many people killed and kept down in order to maintain their status?! Seems a slight bit out of balance, but that's how some like it.

You're not alone, and a life of such great work should not be considered as virtually irrelevant as it basically is at present. But again, that's how some like it--our subject above, for example.


(*)--the Bush's and the Clinton's, among others, representing American Royalty, or at least its near enough equivalent to their European cousins (--often a literal relation, now that I think about it)..

[Doremus]

60. The English princess

as you refer to her, suffered from a extreme form of morning sickness that, untreated, is very serious and has actually killed other expectant mothers.

While I understand and agree with the underlying premise (that the wealthy often receive superior health care), this particular example isn't valid.

[dflprincess]

64. I have had two friends hospitalized for the kind of morning sickness Kate Middleton has

It's a serious situation for both the mother and child.

[Pachamama]

70. I suffered what "the English Princess" has, and its the most awful thing I ever went through

It is NOT morning sickness....Hyperemesis can kill you...I was hospitalized twice...threw up every 15 mins....couldnt even keep water down...the bile was coming up...collapsed due to dehydration...suffered electrolyte imbalance and heart issues due to this...had to have home nursing care for 7 1/2 months of my pregnancy with an IV giving me saline & potassium and a drug used by cancer patients for nausea during chemo called "Anzemet"....had a Pik IV inserted in 5th month because I had gotten down to 95 lbs (from my 130 lbs pre-pregnancy) in order to feed me intravenously....

When I see a post like yours, its a painful reminder of the suffering I went through and the insensitivity I had to know was out there, even from some family memebers of mine who made similar comments thinking I was being a primadonna and that millions of women get morning sickness and "deal with it"....

Hyperemesis is NOT morning sickness....

[Alamuti Lotus]

72. it has become painfully clear..

that sometimes, talking out of my ass is not always a great idea. some misfires, this being one of them.

However, while Her Highness had an army of orderlies and candystripers (does England have those, or is that just a Canadian thing? I adore the phrase, anyway), my newly pregnant friend was going through much the same suffering, but without insurance nobody really gave much a flying fuck. Well, I did, but I don't have "M.D." following my name, so the royal treatment seemed a bit obscene by contrast and that was the impression left.

New impressions have replaced that, so this was not altogether without purpose.

[wordpix]

76. no you're not alone at all

[yurbud]

81. and who knows the repercussions of his earlier CIA work

[blueclown]

13. Here's hoping he suffers as much as possible.

His war on drugs, among many of his numerous "accomplishments", have destroyed many families over miniscule amounts of pot and other drugs.

We are supposed to bring the sympathy card out for him? F that shit. Just because he wasn't as bad as his soon doesn't mean he wasn't an evil man.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

14. I suspect we will be seeing a state funeral soon.

I thought that last week when they said he was in the hospital for a month.

Now I am sure.

[grasswire]

30. this is the worst part about him being ill

the fact that there will be much fawning and cooing about the Bush family "bluebloods" and their false narrative.


No one on our public air waves will dare to speak the truth about the BFEE.

[Frustratedlady]

49. And, a favorable estate tax law...

Cheney and Bush heirs will benefit greatly.

[Lucky Luciano]

53. There is a good tinfoil hat theory!

He "dies" before year end and heads to Paraguay while the estate tax is guaranteed to be extremely favorable.




Nah..too cooky

[formercia]

84. Headline reads:

Bush family has elder Bush taken off Life Support.
In order to meet the favorable tax rate in force until Dec.31, The Bush Family decided to take the Elder Bush off of Life Support.
When asked about the morality of their decision, their spokesperson replied: "the Bush family believes that it's what he would have wished for us to do."

[davidpdx]

16. I do hope he gets better for a variety of reasons

it does sound pretty serious though. There were plenty of things I disagreed with him on, but he did sign the 1990 ADA.

[niyad]

19. I was going to ask someone to name one single positive thing that warmongering thug did.

you named just about the only one.

[tradecenter]

44. He flew torpedo bombers in WWII

and served with honor so for that reason alone, I wish him a speedy recovery or a gentle passing.

[niyad]

47. welcome to DU-- many believe that there was something very fishy about him being the only

survivor of that downed plane, amoung other things.

[tradecenter]

48. Thank you for the welcome.

There is no evidence to prove anything other than he was shot down and rescued by a submarine.
At least he had the balls to put himself in harms way unlike his criminal son who avoided Vietnam while many of us didn't have the privileges he had.

[dflprincess]

68. Poppy helped the little jerk avoid service by pulling strings to get him in the TANG

there was no way the old man could avoid WWII. Not with Kennedys, Roosevelts and a hosts of other celebrities and sons of the rich signing up.

But there was something odd about his being the only one who managed to escape that plane - as a rule pilots make sure the rest of the crew is on their way out before they make their escape.

[xtraxritical]

56. Ask any Kuwati citizen.

[niyad]

57. you mean, like the ones who were stealing the iraqi oil? the ones who were overproducing and

keeping the prices artificially low? don't forget, there is a very long history before iraq invaded kuwait, about which most americans know little or nothing.

[dflprincess]

65. On the other hand, he vetoed the Family Medical Leave Act

claiming that it would "unfairly burden businesses".

Pity that none of his family have to choose between their jobs and being at his bedside.

[Frisbee]

83. There is also this...

Here's ex-president George HW Bush's public letter of resignation from the his lifetime membership to NRA, sent after Wayne "Armed guards in schools" LaPierre gave a speech blaming gun laws for the Oklahoma City bombing, implying that the victims were "jack-booted thugs" "wearing Nazi bucket helmets and black storm trooper uniforms."

"Al Whicher, who served on my [ United States Secret Service ] detail when I was Vice President and President, was killed in Oklahoma City. He was no Nazi. He was a kind man, a loving parent, a man dedicated to serving his country -- and serve it well he did..."

Continued at...

http://boingboing.net/2012/12/23/why-george-bush-sr-resigned-h.html

[Kaleva]

17. He's old, ill and his time here is almost done.

[GliderGuider]

21. Pretty much the same sentiment here.

This was who taught Junior what all the keys were for.

[BlueStater]

20. Most of my hatred and venom is reserved for his horrible son.

I'll go easy on Poppy when his time comes.

[Posteritatis]

25. Yep. (nt)

[NightWatcher]

34. Go look at some of the evil he did while at CIA and done under his reign

A truly evil son of a bitch, I cant believe how nice and chummy people here are being.

The man was in Dallas when JFK was shot, but would never talk about where he was or what he was doing. He was brunching in NYC with bin Laden's and other Saudis when the planes hit... He was behind Reagan while he was demented from alzheimers, pulling hte strings on Iran Contra, the hostages........

[condoleeza]

42. Agree completely

truly one of the worst humans to hold the US Presidency in my lifetime.

[mithnanthy]

77. I also agree...

he's one of the worst people ever born. I wish he had been charged for ALL his horrendous crimes.

[Liberalynn]

40. That's about the best thing I can manage to say about Sr

not quite as evil or as stupid as Jr. but that's as far as it goes.

[davidpdx]

67. I feel the same way

My only thought was if he died within the next 3 months politically it might change things and stall the negotiations to get all of this stuff done.

[triplepoint]

24. Will he give a JFK Assassination Deathbed Confession?

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E. Howard Hunt gave one. His son or someone else filmed it. Here's that video:
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The don of the bush CRIME family and phony war hero had a photographic memory but somehow....couldn't remember where he was the day that JFK was assassinated. Yeah...sure....sure bet there monsieur boooooooooooooooooosh. Guess he won't be joining kenny boy at the bush hacienda in Paraguay afterall....Rest in Hell george! You should have been hanged for treason long ago!

[bucolic_frolic]

35. Read the Book: Family of Secrets

It's circumstantial evidence, but it sure raises a lot of questions.

You just can't believe the number of famous people that were in Dallas
the morning, or night before, or day of, November 22, 1963.

They gave us whitewash, conspiracy theories galore. None of them
intimated an internecine struggle. And the records have been slow
to be released. Congress slowed it down, the Church hearings.

Fifty years later, soon to be delayed some more.

[Politicalboi]

36. I hope too, but I doubt it

He's a coward through and through. He will NEVER talk.

[dflprincess]

59. Even if he did confess whose going to report it?

Unless his fear of hell is so great he demands that Michael Moore come to his beside with a camera crew and satellite hook up so it can be broadcast live to the world.

[Doctor_J]

41. I am wondering the same thing

the Bush family treason & murder go back to the 1930s at least. The uplifting part about this news is that he's not actually a vampire, so eventually his malignant family will die off.

[cpwm17]

50. Please stick to reality

instead of that CT nonsense.

His Iraq War and his incubator baby lie which helped get the American people behind the war is plenty bad enough. What the US did to Iraq during the following twenty years can never be forgiven.

[triplepoint]

55. Congratulations!

You're on "FULL IGNORE" FOREVER!

[bananas]

91. Nurse Nayirah

http://www.prwatch.org/books/tsigfy10.html

How PR Sold the War in the Persian Gulf

Excerpted from Toxic Sludge Is Good For You, Chapter 10

"If I wanted to lie, or if we wanted to lie, if we wanted to exaggerate, I wouldn't use my daughter to do so. I could easily buy other people to do it."
--Saud Nasir al-Sabah, Kuwait's Ambassador to the United States and Canada

<snip>

At the Human Rights Caucus, however, Hill & Knowlton and Congressman Lantos had failed to reveal that Nayirah was a member of the Kuwaiti Royal Family. Her father, in fact, was Saud Nasir al-Sabah, Kuwait's Ambassador to the US, who sat listening in the hearing room during her testimony. The Caucus also failed to reveal that H&K vice-president Lauri Fitz-Pegado had coached Nayirah in what even the Kuwaitis' own investigators later confirmed was false testimony.

If Nayirah's outrageous lie had been exposed at the time it was told, it might have at least caused some in Congress and the news media to soberly reevaluate the extent to which they were being skillfully manipulated to support military action. Public opinion was deeply divided on Bush's Gulf policy. As late as December 1990, a New York Times/CBS News poll indicated that 48 percent of the American people wanted Bush to wait before taking any action if Iraq failed to withdraw from Kuwait by Bush's January 15 deadline.85 On January 12, the US Senate voted by a narrow, five-vote margin to support the Bush administration in a declaration of war. Given the narrowness of the vote, the babies-thrown-from-incubators story may have turned the tide in Bush's favor.

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[cpwm17]

93. The babies-thrown-from-incubators story may have also helped dehumanize the Iraqis

which may have contributed to our gratuitous slaughter of them.

Congressman Lantos received a massive funeral after he died. It was far larger than any funeral for any congressman I've ever seen. With his terrible human rights and war promotion record, it was entirely undeserved.

[wordpix]

79. very interesting stuff, Russ Baker is huge in my book

[wordpix]

85. the #1 thing that is suspicious is Poppy's "I don't know where I was on the day JFK was shot"

plus all those cronies who ended up "coincidentally" in Dallas that day.

Hell, I was age 11 and I know where I was, sitting in 6th grade class when we got the news.

[triplepoint]

87. bush I had a photographic memory while at CIA

and was able to tell you the names of all the people in a crowded elevator he used at CIA to get to his office. Strange how with this rare capability, he was unable to remember where he was on the day JFK was assassinated. Strange to those in denial that is.

[cheriemedium59]

31. I will send up a little prayer for his healing...

I did not vote for him, but I always respected him. Hopeful
for a recovery soon...

[condoleeza]

37. The whole family are Satan spawn, led by their puppet master, Cheney, IMO

Leave it to Poppy to be dying now during the final days of trying to resolve the budget, they'll do anything to deflect focus on what's important, even if it means sacrificing Poppy. No pity here.

[polynomial]

43. From my view

The first amendment of the Constitution says we the people have a right to free speech. However, as the Bush family and the American Congress specifically both Republicans and Democrats, and the whole of mainstream media helped to pass the Patriot Act give many the feeling that to be able to criticize our government implies one can get thrown in jail for whatever reason the president or those insiders see fit to take action on.

That is the basic feel one can have when thinking about the Bush legacy is a whole notion, a concept that is “facitical” yes as in fascist. Or the whole era of that war spectrum. Which is carried over to our present time is eclipsed by paid political historians in our paper news media and electromagnetic news cable media.

It was not until I read the book by Gerald Posner called “Secrets of The Kingdom” that revealed to me the striking and harsh reality that the Bush family likely held the door open for America to be ambushed by extremist Arabs. The Bush and Cheney families are very close business partners with the Bin Laden family for decades. Both families have made millions because of regular commerce and military commerce. But, to me that time lag as George Bush was telling a goat story, at an elementary school in Florida, between the first plane crashes to the second plane crash raises the flag of gilt. To me it was displaying a reason that George already knew, gave George W. Bush the reason needed to go to war.

There is so much about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan that is suppressed many can firmly believe the media, hate radio, and hate cable have no recourse but to lie for that simple reason they are complicit in the worst historical leadership dysfunction the world was ever been presented. Meaning the American leadership has no place in the world of the future because American leadership is basically a crime Congress, Senate, and Supreme Court in just this time span.

Yes those are very harsh words, but as I said before America will never have a golden era unless these crimes of torture and those up on top are be addressed and convicted for sacking the treasury. This is definitively the moment.

[Festivito]

51. Death tax goes back in December 31st. Poppy doesn't have much time.

There are some wealthy family members who will make a boatload more money if he does not last till 2013, and some CIA retirees who would prefer he doesn't talk before he goes.

Fever makes for an innocuous media report and yet when he goes, it's suddenly expected. It also discredits a deathbed confession.

Have a good week Mr. President.

[larkrake]

58. He sired monsters who have sired monsters in like. I am sure he is ashamed of Jr.

I wish him an easy passage. The Bush family has done so much to destroy this country, I wish they would all be exposed and sent to jail along with their Saudi partners in crime

[steve2470]

69. He was in the US Navy in WW2

Best thing I can say about him.

I'll be quiet now.

[triplepoint]

80. bush 1 bailed out of a perfectly good airplane

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and left his two crew members to die. He had his "life raft rescue" filmed. Here are three related photos I found on Google Images. The video of his fake life raft rescue is also included here.
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[steve2470]

82. I'd make an OP out of this, I've never seen this before nt

[bitchkitty]

73. I am sorry that death is part of the human equation.

I am not sorry for GHWB...but I am sorry that he was a part of humanity.

[Odin2005]

74. Hell is about to get a new resident.

[steve2470]

78. Bush family confident ex-president will be released soon (25 minutes ago)

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/27/bush-family-confident-ex-president-will-be-released-soon/

Houston (CNN) - The family of George H.W. Bush expressed confidence Thursday that the former president will be released shortly from an intensive care unit at a Houston hospital, where he is being treated for an elevated fever.

Bush family spokesman Jim McGrath said Bush was moved into the ICU so hospital personnel could more easily keep tabs on his condition, and that his family members were fully confident in the medical staff treating him. His most recent illness does not relate to his diagnosed Parkinsonism, McGrath said. On Wednesday, McGrath said Bush was in guarded condition and on a liquid diet. He added Thursday that the 41st president was being treated with Tylenol, among other things.

Doctors were initially treating Bush for bronchitis and a lingering cough. More recently he had been undergoing physical therapy in preparation for returning home, but developed a fever last week and began experiencing other complications that McGrath described as "a series of setbacks."

Bush was visited on Christmas by family members including his wife, Barbara, son Neil, daughter-in-law Maria and grandson Pierce. His daughter Doro visited Wednesday. At 88, Bush is the oldest living former president, edging out Jimmy Carter by about four months.

[NeoConsSuck]

86. After watching the movie

'The Panama Deception', I have no sympathy for the man. A cold blooded murderer.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.