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Haley to name Tim Scott to Senate Seat (SC) (Original Post) democrattotheend Dec 2012 OP
Colbert should run in 2014 iandhr Dec 2012 #1
And the looniness continues. n/t UTUSN Dec 2012 #2
I don't think he's as crazy as Alan West democrattotheend Dec 2012 #3
So the plus side atreides1 Dec 2012 #4
+1000 Just like cosmicone Dec 2012 #11
A raving wingnut is a raving wingnut, don't matter the race. & a not-so-insane-as-WEST UTUSN Dec 2012 #7
Would he be somewhere between West and Allan Keyes on the craziness scale? Ken Burch Dec 2012 #24
"a Chick-fil-A franchise owner took him on as a protégé and schooled him in conservative principles" Walk away Dec 2012 #5
Can someone say Tokenism? HoosierRadical Dec 2012 #6
What about the plethora of gay republicans? FreeBC Dec 2012 #9
Oh trust me gay republicans are viewed as traitorous scum by fellow gays dsc Dec 2012 #10
It is in bad taste for an African American to align themselves with the modern GOP. HoosierRadical Dec 2012 #14
Freak out? FreeBC Dec 2012 #17
Be more orignal... HoosierRadical Dec 2012 #18
He's their best candidate? sadbear Dec 2012 #8
Don't know, if he holds the GOP vote he will win. HoosierRadical Dec 2012 #15
Do they really think they're fooling anybody? Hugabear Dec 2012 #12
It sure won't. HoosierRadical Dec 2012 #19
He was only appointed because of his race KingFlorez Dec 2012 #13
Rep. Tim Scott picked to replace Sen. Jim DeMint; 1st black GOP senator since Reconstruction struggle4progress Dec 2012 #16
No he is the 5th... HoosierRadical Dec 2012 #20
It's hard to fact check this stuff! struggle4progress Dec 2012 #21
That information is correct. HoosierRadical Dec 2012 #22
Burris was not GOP Ter Dec 2012 #25
So Republicans..... DeSwiss Dec 2012 #23

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
3. I don't think he's as crazy as Alan West
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:16 AM
Dec 2012

Then again, it would be pretty hard to be crazier than Alan West.

This is a smart political move for the GOP. On the plus side, I am glad there will be at least 1 black senator, even if he's on the wrong side.

Too bad Patrick has basically ruled out running for Kerry's seat.

We need to step it up with recruiting minority Senate candidates in 2014 and 2016. We have a wonderfully diverse caucus in the House but not so much in the Senate (other than gender diversity, which I am very proud of).

It's crazy that even though Obama got over 70% of the Latino vote, the 2 Latino who have been mentioned as future presidential candidates are both Republican.

atreides1

(16,061 posts)
4. So the plus side
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:34 AM
Dec 2012

Is that he's black? Really?

He's not only a Republican, he's also a Tea Bagger like Demint...he could be purple with yellow dots, and it still wouldn't be a plus!!!

The only thing that happened here is that Haley just put in a black version of Demint...

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
11. +1000 Just like
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:05 PM
Dec 2012

Clarence Thomas was put in for Thurgood Marshall -- black for black but what a difference it made.

UTUSN

(70,618 posts)
7. A raving wingnut is a raving wingnut, don't matter the race. & a not-so-insane-as-WEST
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:04 PM
Dec 2012

raving wingnut is all the more dangerous because of being that much more EFFECTIVE.

So from the Wiki article, this jerk is a food-stamps-denier, a Labor punisher, an "impeachment" a-hole, an earmarks hypocrite, one of those Gawd-talkers-to, and toady to his race's past and present oppressors.

As for the Rethugs being "smart" to place minority wingnuts: Here is the lesson that we should learn from the Poppy BUSH strategy of naming Clarence THOMASes to positions:: What he did was to stymy the Libs at that time, putting them in the position of having to oppose and attack a minority, whose home group was a Dem constituency. Later, the Rethugs kept doing it with Meegwell (as Shirley TEMPLE Orrin HATCH pronounced it) ESTRADA, Michael STEELE, Alberto GONZALEZ, Colon POWELL, and Condo RICE. The Dems continued to be flummoxed, what do we do, how to we fight wingnut minority puppets, my oh my?!1

Orrin HATCH put on his Shirley TEMPLE pout and did his "concern" about, "How can the Democrats oppose a well qualified minority, Mee-gwell ESTRADA, when they claim to champion minorities?!1" No, Shirly HATCH, it is RACIST to nominate somebody JUST BECAUSE of their race, whichever side it comes from.

The answer, nay, SOLUTION is: If jerk, isolated minority members choose to betray their home group's interests, fine. We don't have to angonize over their race or ethnicity or gender. We don't have to attack on the lines of their being "houseboys" or puppets or whatever. If they claim to be wingnuts, so be it, we accept that they are wingnuts, and we oppose and attack on that basis, simple as that.

As for Rethugs being "smart" and helping themselves by naming minorities, no. Rethugs have as their core value racism, and the near-total Rethugs are wink-winking when they put on the exterior paint of supporting their pet minority member.


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.... ...serving for a time alongside Paul Thurmond, the son of the late Republican U.S. Senator, Strom Thurmond.[13] He won re-election in 2000.[14] In 2004, he won re-election with 61% of the vote.[15]

In 1996, he challenged Democrat State Senator Robert Ford in South Carolina's 42nd Senate district, but lost 65%-35%.[16][2]

Tenure
In 1997, Scott supported having the Ten Commandments posted outside the county council chambers, saying it would remind members of the absolute rules they should follow. The county council then unanimously approved the display and Scott nailed a King James version of the Commandments to the wall. Shortly after, the ACLU and Americans United for Separation of Church and State sued. After an initial court ruling said the display was unconstitutional, the council settled to avoid accruing more legal fees.[17] Regarding the costs of the suit, Scott said, "Whatever it costs in the pursuit of this goal (of displaying the Commandments) is worth it."[ ....

Scott was endorsed by the anti-tax National Club for Growth,[29] various Tea Party movement groups, former Alaska Governor and Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin,[6][30] Republican House Whip Eric Cantor,[31] former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee,[32] South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint, and the founder of the Minuteman Project ....

...Scott "swamped his opponents in fundraising, spending almost $725,000 during the election cycle to less than $20,000 for his November opponents". ....

In March 2011, Scott co-sponsored a welfare reform bill that would deny food stamps to families whose incomes were lowered to the point of eligibility because a family member was participating in a labor strike.[41][42] He introduced legislation in July 2011 to strip the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) of its power to prohibit employers from relocating to punish workers who join unions or strike.[43] The rationale for the legislation is that government agencies should not be able to tell private employers where they can run a business.[43] Scott described the legislation as a common sense proposal that would fix a flaw in federal labor policy and benefit the national and local economies.[43] The NLRB had recently opposed the relocation of a Boeing production facility from Washington state to South Carolina.[43]

Scott successfully advocated for federal funds for a Charleston harbor dredging project estimated at $300 million, arguing that the project is neither an earmark nor an example of wasteful government spending.[44] He said the project was merit-based, and in the national interest because larger cargo ships could use the port and jobs would be created.[44]

During the summer 2011 debate over raising the U.S. debt ceiling, Scott said that President Barack Obama could be impeached over the debt crisis.[45] Scott supported the inclusion of a balanced budget constitutional amendment in the debt ceiling bill, and opposed compromise bills that did not include the amendment. Before voting "no" on the final compromise legislation, Scott and other first term conservatives prayed for guidance in a congressional chapel. Afterwards, Scott acknowledged he had received divine inspiration regarding his vote, and joined rest of the South Carolina congressional delegation in voting no


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HoosierRadical

(390 posts)
6. Can someone say Tokenism?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:56 AM
Dec 2012

To be honest, I don't know anything about his record, but I question the sanity and intellect of anybody that identifies as a Republican.

 

FreeBC

(403 posts)
9. What about the plethora of gay republicans?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:42 PM
Dec 2012

Black republicans certainly seem to take more grief than gay republicans. Maybe that's because they are so much rarer?

I don't want to be on the side of defending any republicans, but calling someone a token seems to cross the line of good taste. I think we can find ample reasons to criticize this guy without involving race.

HoosierRadical

(390 posts)
14. It is in bad taste for an African American to align themselves with the modern GOP.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:50 PM
Dec 2012

Please take your freak-out over Racism and internalize racism somewhere else.

 

FreeBC

(403 posts)
17. Freak out?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:01 PM
Dec 2012

I fail to see any possible way in which you could classify my post as a "freak-out". Is there some reason you used this term or do you lack the vocabulary to describe my post in a reasonably representative manner?

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
8. He's their best candidate?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:39 PM
Dec 2012

Is a Democratic pick-up in South Carolina possible with this guy running for reelection?

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
12. Do they really think they're fooling anybody?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:11 PM
Dec 2012

They can trot out one Uncle Tom after another, it's not going to fool anybody for a second.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
13. He was only appointed because of his race
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:41 PM
Dec 2012

Let's be real here, he's no different than the rest of the South Carolina GOP delegation, which is fairly cookie cutter. He got appointed because he is black and nothing more. The country club has to let in a some non-white members.

struggle4progress

(118,179 posts)
16. Rep. Tim Scott picked to replace Sen. Jim DeMint; 1st black GOP senator since Reconstruction
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:18 PM
Dec 2012

... He’ll become only the fourth black Republican in Senate history and the first black senator since former Illinois Sen. Barack Obama was elected president. He will soon be the only black Republican in Congress, after Rep. Allen West of Florida lost his re-election bid last month.

Outside the Statehouse where Scott spoke, a statue still stands of post-Reconstruction former governor and U.S. senator Ben Tillman, who unapologetically advocated lynching any black who tried to vote. Another statue depicts the late Strom Thurmond, who still holds a record for a 24-hour filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1957 ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/congress/gop-official-sc-gov-haley-to-tap-scott-for-senate-first-black-senator-in-states-history/2012/12/17/f1dd299e-4864-11e2-8af9-9b50cb4605a7_story.html

struggle4progress

(118,179 posts)
21. It's hard to fact check this stuff!
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:37 AM
Dec 2012

Wikipedia claims MS sent two blacks to the Senate during reconstruction, MA sent one in the late 1960s, IL sent three (Braun, Obama, Burris), and now SC has sent one. I don't know how reliable the info is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_William_Brooke,_III

HoosierRadical

(390 posts)
22. That information is correct.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:51 AM
Dec 2012

Scott will be the first AA Senator from the south since the end of Reconstruction.

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