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riversedge

(71,032 posts)
Sun May 26, 2024, 05:51 PM May 26

Questions raised over Trump profiting off his Secret Service detail while he campaigns

Source: raw story



Tom Boggioni May 26, 2024 2:53PM ET


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In 2022, NBC News reported that a House investigative report showed that the former president was charging as much as $1,185 per night for agents to stay in his hotels, "more than five times the recommended government rate."

On Sunday, Forbes reported now there are now questions about airfare charges for his government-supplied security detail with over $800,000 paid by taxpayers this election cycle and another $361,000 still owed.



According to Zach Everson of Forbes, "New filings raise the question of whether Trump is also using his campaign to convert Secret Service funds into business revenue."

He went on to note that the biggest recipient of air travel reimbursements is to Tag Air which is solely owned by Trump.

............................. But no candidate has charged as much to the Secret Service as Trump, whose three presidential campaigns have collected a combined $10.1 million from the agency tasked with protecting him."....................


Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-proftting-off-secret-service/

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Questions raised over Trump profiting off his Secret Service detail while he campaigns (Original Post) riversedge May 26 OP
Duh. Old news, really. unblock May 26 #1
But too oft' glossed over Attilatheblond May 26 #2
lol! unblock May 26 #3
Seriously? I missed those details. littlemissmartypants May 26 #13
Yep. He got six write in votes for his trouble. RFK got like 19, so none of them will be the L candidate n/t ArkansasDemocrat1 May 26 #16
Well, that's good news. littlemissmartypants May 26 #17
Sounds like it's time to reduce Trump's Secret Service detail down until their hotel costs come under control. cstanleytech May 26 #4
Trump is the master of all grifting..... DENVERPOPS May 27 #25
Wasn't one of his presidential scams to always refuel in Scotland when he traveled internationally? CrispyQ May 27 #28
All of that info is certainly documented somewhere intrepidity May 27 #30
It would be fascinating! DENVERPOPS May 27 #33
Have Secret Service make the arrangements. LiberalFighter May 26 #5
i wouldnt even sit in the same plane with him unless i had my particle maski. gasp. AllaN01Bear May 27 #23
Too bad, this is an easy fix Dan May 26 #6
All President Joe Biden has to due is CUT the detail to two people. Traurigkeit May 26 #9
Where did you get that information? littlemissmartypants May 27 #18
Who choose the Secretary of Homeland Security ? Traurigkeit May 27 #19
They aren't the same person. One's president the other's the SHS. littlemissmartypants May 27 #20
Is that known as Profiteering??? Ford_Prefect May 26 #7
there are several lines in The United States Constitution about that. Those papers TSF HATES! Traurigkeit May 26 #10
It's not so much the papers that he hates PatSeg May 26 #11
He charged the same for the security detail of all TexasBushwhacker May 26 #8
Emoluments keithbvadu2 May 26 #12
Disgusting scammy hustler mahina May 26 #14
Donald Tramp is the biggest crook to have ever resided in the White House. blue neen May 26 #15
You can multiply that amount if TSF is re-elected. no_hypocrisy May 27 #21
Questions? Like, who slapped Chris Rock in the face? twodogsbarking May 27 #22
traitortrump should have been jailed in Aug 2022 and be awaiting the documents trial there. Hermit-The-Prog May 27 #24
I bet every bit of food and drink they consume at his hotels tanyev May 27 #26
What Secret Service agents are doing collecting rubber checkens at the Libertarian convention is beyond reason and,. magicarpet May 27 #27
Oh, *now* they're being questioned by the MSN? sakabatou May 27 #29
Grift to the Grave. oasis May 27 #31
Of all the TNTC (Too Numerous To Count) shitty, reprehensible things... 3catwoman3 May 27 #32

Attilatheblond

(2,571 posts)
2. But too oft' glossed over
Sun May 26, 2024, 05:58 PM
May 26

he should ONLY get the standard rate, OR no special security at all. His detail was confiscating kazoos & rubber chickens last evening. Just let the various jails in jurisdictions where he has been indicted handle his safety.

littlemissmartypants

(23,254 posts)
17. Well, that's good news.
Sun May 26, 2024, 11:52 PM
May 26

But I'm more worried about the voting block than their candidates.

The country is marching toward a Trump-Biden rematch in November, but an April poll from Monmouth University found 60% of Americans aren't excited about it. It's unclear who those voters might support in November, and Libertarians are hoping they can be an attractive option.

"People are starting to recognize — people who are smart — that we are the most powerful voting bloc in the country, and we have the political power right now," McArdle* said. "What Libertarians and independent voters do is going to shape the election in 2024."
https://www.scrippsnews.com/politics/america-votes/presidential-election/trump-rfk-jr-to-speak-at-the-libertarian-party-convention-this-weekend



The share of voters who identify as independent or something else is somewhat higher than in the late 1990s and early 2000s. As a result, there are more “leaners” today than in the past. Currently, 15% of voters lean toward the Republican Party and 16% lean toward the Democratic Party. By comparison, in 1994, 27% of voters leaned toward either the GOP (15%) or the Democratic Party (12%).

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/the-partisanship-and-ideology-of-american-voters/


*Angela McArdle, the chair of the Libertarian National Committee

cstanleytech

(26,497 posts)
4. Sounds like it's time to reduce Trump's Secret Service detail down until their hotel costs come under control.
Sun May 26, 2024, 06:45 PM
May 26

DENVERPOPS

(9,133 posts)
25. Trump is the master of all grifting.....
Mon May 27, 2024, 01:02 PM
May 27

During his occupation of the White House, he would go down to Mar A Lago a couple or three days? every two weeks?
All of his SS Detail stayed in rooms at MAL while guarding him. I can't remember what he was charging them, but the nightly rate was ludicrous. Evidently that wasn't enough for the Human Cockroach.......He changed the Hotel Policy, and only rented THEIR rooms by the month, at 30/31 times the nightly rate he had been charging them......

There was so much corrupt grifting, it is nauseating..........

Not sure of which resort it was, but the Government ordered all new Golf Carts, on the premise the present ones weren't fast enough.
I can't remember if they had to do that at all his golf resorts he had to visit.

I don't think people begin to know how much his constant, almost weekly, AirForceOne joy rides were costing the nation. His admin was reporting, when questioned, that the cost on each trip was around 180K...........They probably only counted the cost of the Fuel to get that figure..........The actual cost of every trip on AFOne is probably somewhere in the 15-30 Million dollar range for each trip.....Seriously.......
FIFTEEN TO THIRTY MILLION DOLLAR RANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is one thing if a President goes on legitimate National business trips or even a vacation trip once or twice a year. His use of AFOne was way way way over that number of trips to the point of being ludicrous.
And don't forget all the continuous travel expenses, and SS costs, for all his spawn and Jared to "jet set" everywhere also!!!!! Including ones all over the world for pleasure, hunting, etc etc etc........

I don't think most taxpayers realize all of the associated, massive expenses, that go into just one trip......It is mind boggling!!!!!!

CrispyQ

(36,828 posts)
28. Wasn't one of his presidential scams to always refuel in Scotland when he traveled internationally?
Mon May 27, 2024, 01:59 PM
May 27

Then he'd stay at his resort w/SS detail & charge them full rate so he could golf. Remember when he said he'd never have time to golf cuz he'd be so busy working?

intrepidity

(7,518 posts)
30. All of that info is certainly documented somewhere
Mon May 27, 2024, 02:05 PM
May 27

When will some savvy journalist do foias for ALL of it and write it up? Juxtapose the data with tfg's claim that he's so rich he can't be bought etc.

DENVERPOPS

(9,133 posts)
33. It would be fascinating!
Mon May 27, 2024, 04:15 PM
May 27

The hours of preparation including the "Advance Team".......The huge military transports that have to transport the "Beast" and all the other vehicles used in transporting him from the airport to the location...And all need to be taken back at the end of his day of golfing.
The cost of Local Police, paramedics, etc etc (which he refused to pay)
All of that and if you want to carry it further, how about the airlines fuel expense to stay in a"hold" pattern outside his departure airport, his arrival airport, and and along the entire air corridor along his flight path......

Also, although rarely shown, are the fighter aircraft that accompany the plane throughout the flight........And if he needs to make use of MarineOne, the helicopter he rides in, they fold up the blades and load the helicopter onboard one of the largest military transport airplanes. Sometimes they use THREE identical Marine One Helicopters.....two to serve as Decoys so terrorists won't know which one actually has the President on-board. There are several special planes in the air that accompany him.....a Communications one?, and one defensive radar plane?????

I doubt that very many know the thoroughness, and all the multitude of facets, of all of the President's protection.

A close friend of mine got sucked into working around the clock with the SS the entire time Obama was in Denver. Did he ever have stories to tell about the arrival, around the clock needs when Obama was here, and all the way up to his departure.......

With Trump, it was a huge logistical nightmare, every few weeks, getting him to some location and back, to basically golf for the day.......

At least with Reagan and WBush, they would spend a lot of time off at their ranches, but they would stay there a week or two at a time.....

AllaN01Bear

(20,156 posts)
23. i wouldnt even sit in the same plane with him unless i had my particle maski. gasp.
Mon May 27, 2024, 10:49 AM
May 27

and they dont mention that most are @ t,, properties .

Dan

(3,677 posts)
6. Too bad, this is an easy fix
Sun May 26, 2024, 07:44 PM
May 26

Trump and all other former presidents should be allocated a set yearly amount for their security. Once that amount is exceeded their protection should be terminated and security services should be paid for by the former president. Griff all you want then…charge as much as you want too…it would no longer be a problem to the tax payers of the U.S.

Traurigkeit

(990 posts)
9. All President Joe Biden has to due is CUT the detail to two people.
Sun May 26, 2024, 08:35 PM
May 26

It is under The Sitting President's control.

Old orange slime can not do anything about it.

And if the slime goes down, so much better for the world at large.

littlemissmartypants

(23,254 posts)
18. Where did you get that information?
Mon May 27, 2024, 12:14 AM
May 27
https://www.secretservice.gov/about/faq/general

How long do former presidents receive Secret Service protection after they leave office?
In 1965, Congress authorized the Secret Service (Public Law 89-186) to protect a former president and his/her spouse during their lifetime, unless they decline protection.


Under 18 U.S.C.' 3056(a)(7), "[m]ajor Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates," as identified by the Secretary of Homeland Security, are eligible for Secret Service protection.

Title 18 U.S.C.' 3056(a)(7) authorizes the U.S. Secret Service to provide protection for major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates:

Protection is authorized by the DHS Secretary after consultation with the Congressional Advisory Committee;

The Congressional Advisory Committee includes: Speaker of the House, House Minority Leader, Senate Majority Leader, Senate Minority Leader, and one additional member selected by the others;
Protection under these guidelines should only be granted within one year prior to the general election. Protection more than one year prior to the general election should only be granted in extraordinary, case by case circumstances in consultation with the committee, based on threat assessment and other factors.


Doesn't seem to mention that "under The Sitting President's control" detail. Unless you can find it.



I'd love to learn more. ❤️

Traurigkeit

(990 posts)
19. Who choose the Secretary of Homeland Security ?
Mon May 27, 2024, 12:26 AM
May 27

18 U.S. Code § 3056 - Powers, authorities, and duties of United States Secret Service




(a) Under the direction of the Secretary of Homeland Security, the United States Secret Service is authorized to protect the following persons:

littlemissmartypants

(23,254 posts)
20. They aren't the same person. One's president the other's the SHS.
Mon May 27, 2024, 12:34 AM
May 27

I still don't get it and I read several pages at the government site and searched there, too.

blue neen

(12,361 posts)
15. Donald Tramp is the biggest crook to have ever resided in the White House.
Sun May 26, 2024, 10:11 PM
May 26

I don't want to pay taxes anymore to enable his thievery. What a disgusting man.

tanyev

(42,983 posts)
26. I bet every bit of food and drink they consume at his hotels
Mon May 27, 2024, 01:11 PM
May 27

and on his plane is wildly overcharged, too.

magicarpet

(14,830 posts)
27. What Secret Service agents are doing collecting rubber checkens at the Libertarian convention is beyond reason and,.
Mon May 27, 2024, 01:44 PM
May 27

... and certainly a misappropriation of tax payer funded government resources.

What has the Orange Fuhrer deemed his Secret Service his private goon squad who protects and defends Shitler's infantile fee-fees from the squawk of rubber chickens. So that they must be confiscated to protect "The Dawnald" from any insults by the crowd at his speeches ?

What's next - will the Secret Service shoot anyone dead if they have the audacity to boo his majesty Shitler at political events or Nazi Rallies ?

Talk about Fascism on full parade.

3catwoman3

(24,385 posts)
32. Of all the TNTC (Too Numerous To Count) shitty, reprehensible things...
Mon May 27, 2024, 03:52 PM
May 27

...Trump has done while in office, and since leaving it, charging the Secret Service to stay in his damn hotels is one of the ones that pisses me off the most. He should let them stay for free.

It is immoral.

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