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Polybius

(16,887 posts)
Fri May 3, 2024, 12:48 AM May 2024

Biden calls US ally Japan 'xenophobic' along with India, Russia and China

Source: CNN

President Joe Biden on Wednesday called close US ally Japan “xenophobic” at a Washington, D.C., fundraiser, just weeks after lauding the US-Japan alliance at a state dinner.

The president made the remark at the off-camera event while arguing that Japan, along with India, Russia and China, would perform better economically if the countries embraced immigration more.

“You know, one of the reasons why our economy is growing is because of you and many others. Why? Because we welcome immigrants. We look to – the reason – look, think about it – why is China stalling so badly economically? Why is Japan having trouble? Why is Russia? Why is India? Because they’re xenophobic. They don’t want immigrants,” Biden said, according to an official White House transcript released Thursday. An initial report of Biden’s comments that was released by pool reporters did not include India in the list of countries he mentioned.

On Thursday, press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said the president was attempting to make a larger point when he described Japan and India as “xenophobic.

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Biden calls US ally Japan 'xenophobic' along with India, Russia and China (Original Post) Polybius May 2024 OP
one would think china and india have sufficient population already nt msongs May 2024 #1
I think the point might be diversity - rather than sheer raw numbers? -(nt)- stopdiggin May 2024 #5
That point doesn't help. China and India are very diverse. AllTooEasy May 2024 #12
you're correct, and 'diversity' probably isn't the best word stopdiggin May 2024 #18
He's right. Immigrants are keeping our economy going. It's always been that way. PSPS May 2024 #2
But to put it bluntly, this country isn't exactly in a pro-immigration mood at the moment Polybius May 2024 #6
I get what you mean about the timing, and I am sure BlueKota May 2024 #14
I wonder how much he knows about Japan.. HUAJIAO May 2024 #3
He Is Correct HandmaidsTaleUntold May 2024 #9
Agreed. Even half-Japanese will be turned away in certain restaurants... Steven Maurer May 2024 #11
I had no idea PatSeg May 2024 #17
They Are HandmaidsTaleUntold May 2024 #19
Very interesting PatSeg May 2024 #20
They are kind to American tourists too Polybius May 2024 #21
That is very disturbing PatSeg May 2024 #16
Dark Brandon strikes again! AnrothElf May 2024 #4
Japan seems to be doing fine the way it is though Polybius May 2024 #7
He was probably referring to this... AnrothElf May 2024 #8
It's Still True HandmaidsTaleUntold May 2024 #10
Their population is crashing NickB79 May 2024 #22
True about Japan, but businesses need foreign tourists and foreign workers, more non-Japanese live betsuni May 2024 #13
This is a classic gaffe. It's impolite because it's true Bucky May 2024 #15

AllTooEasy

(1,261 posts)
12. That point doesn't help. China and India are very diverse.
Fri May 3, 2024, 04:35 AM
May 2024

Please don't stereotype the populations of China or India as being homogenous. The range of facial features, body types, skin tones, cultures, languages, histories, religions, etc. are extensive in both of these +1 billion population countries. It's like saying Europe (Scots, Italians, Georgians, etc.) or Africa (Moroccans, Congolese, Ethiopians, etc.) aren't diverse.

Japan on the other hand...

stopdiggin

(12,439 posts)
18. you're correct, and 'diversity' probably isn't the best word
Fri May 3, 2024, 12:23 PM
May 2024

(although it is one that we use routinely in the US)
I wonder if cultural influx wouldn't better describe .. ? But a cross pollination of culture has clearly been an engine of creativity and growth down through time - and has served this country well. (which is kind of where this OP got it's wings)

Polybius

(16,887 posts)
6. But to put it bluntly, this country isn't exactly in a pro-immigration mood at the moment
Fri May 3, 2024, 01:52 AM
May 2024

I worry about the timing.

BlueKota

(3,062 posts)
14. I get what you mean about the timing, and I am sure
Fri May 3, 2024, 07:55 AM
May 2024

the magats will try and use it against him, but maybe it can be used as a starting point for our side for a discussion that needs to happen.

The old argument that immigrants are taking jobs away from Americans is pretty much bunk at least in NY. Businesses all over have help wanted signs and even have billboards practically begging for help. Many often have to shut down early or not even open at all some days because they don't have enough employees. So where are all these supposed American citizens without work because of immigrants? Why aren't they rushing to apply.

It's not just fast food joints either. It's veterinary practices, hospitals, libraries, school bus drivers etc. It's been attributed to Covid, but it goes beyond that. The last of the baby boom generation are retiring. There are not enough people in the succeeding generations to fill those gaps.

Immigrants could be trained to fill those positions especially if they can speak English or Spanish. The only thing that stands in the way is bigotry.

Plus Americans hate the inconvenience of these businesses shutting down early, if that's pointed out maybe it would get through to a few people that we need at least some immigration or we are screwed.

 
9. He Is Correct
Fri May 3, 2024, 02:22 AM
May 2024

I grew up there. We allow them in here to do whatever they want. They barely let us in to live or conduct business especially. Korean families living there 500 years still can’t get citizenship.

Steven Maurer

(488 posts)
11. Agreed. Even half-Japanese will be turned away in certain restaurants...
Fri May 3, 2024, 03:23 AM
May 2024

...people who literally grew up in Japan and speak the language fluently.

There are many positive things about Japan as a country and a culture, but they have a strong fear of anyone who even slightly sticks out.

PatSeg

(49,550 posts)
17. I had no idea
Fri May 3, 2024, 09:19 AM
May 2024

I would have thought they would be more openminded, being they've absorbed so much of western culture.

 
19. They Are
Fri May 3, 2024, 01:04 PM
May 2024

I love them. But they are a homogeneous society and for centuries who were under attack a lot. I’m mostly referring to doing business and citizenship. They are extremely kind and polite. So much so after I moved back here I was stunned at the rudeness here.

 

AnrothElf

(923 posts)
4. Dark Brandon strikes again!
Fri May 3, 2024, 01:47 AM
May 2024

President Biden doesn't gaffe.

He's saying diversity encourages innovation. It helps find real solutions that work in the really DIVERSE world.

 
10. It's Still True
Fri May 3, 2024, 02:23 AM
May 2024

Closed society compared to us. You can’t just go there and open a business. I love them immensely though.

NickB79

(19,486 posts)
22. Their population is crashing
Sat May 4, 2024, 01:28 PM
May 2024
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/japans-aging-population-is-shrinking-at-a-record-rate/

It will play hell with their economy and social dynamics. They have no choice but to accept millions of immigrants in the future.

betsuni

(27,114 posts)
13. True about Japan, but businesses need foreign tourists and foreign workers, more non-Japanese live
Fri May 3, 2024, 07:08 AM
May 2024

there and people don't freak out anymore. Old conservative men in government is the problem, I think. Not sure if having a non-Japanese parent still makes it difficult to get a job with a large company.

Went to my Japanese sister-in-law's 60th birthday party the other day at a sushi restaurant. After decades of seeing me eat Japanese food she still has it in her head that foreigners can't eat raw fish. While everybody else got a nice sushi plate I was stuck with the cooked stuff -- special order. LOL.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
15. This is a classic gaffe. It's impolite because it's true
Fri May 3, 2024, 07:55 AM
May 2024

Of course the deeper truth is the way that Japan is unwelcoming to foreigners is entirely different than the way that Russia is unwelcoming to outsiders.

Politicians have to be careful when they decide to speak uncomfortable truths; ignoring nuance like Joe does sometimes is an amateur's mistake.

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