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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,406 posts)
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 08:35 PM Apr 27

Chants of 'shame on you' greet guests arriving for the annual White House correspondents' dinner

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — An election-year roast of President Joe Biden before journalists, celebrities and politicians at the annual White House correspondents' dinner Saturday butted up against growing public discord over the Israel-Hamas war, with large protests outside the event condemning both Biden's handling of the conflict and the Western news' media coverage of it.

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With hundreds of protesters rallying against the war in Gaza outside the event and concerns over the conflict and humanitarian crisis in Gaza and the perils for journalists covering the conflict, the war hung over this year's event.

“Shame on you!” protesters draped in the traditional Palestinian keffiyeh cloth shouted, running after men in tuxedos and suits and women in long dresses who were holding clutch purses, as guests and other participants hurried inside.

Chants accused U.S. journalists of undercovering the war and misrepresenting it. “Western media we see you, and all the horrors that you hide,” crowds chanted at one point.

Read more: https://www.seattlepi.com/entertainment/article/biden-will-give-election-year-roast-at-annual-19426533.php



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Chants of 'shame on you' greet guests arriving for the annual White House correspondents' dinner (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 27 OP
The poor people of Gaza and the Occupied Territories comradebillyboy Apr 27 #1
They'd be far more effective if they'd just protest HAMAS instead. AnrothElf Apr 27 #3
Some of them carry signs supporting Hamas. Demsrule86 Apr 27 #4
I agree. I think they're misguided at best. AnrothElf Apr 27 #21
Do you really think that Hamas bases its decisions on protests in the USA? muriel_volestrangler Apr 30 #48
I guess we'd never know, since nobody ever seems to protest Hamas. It's only ever one side. AnrothElf Apr 30 #49
"We'd never know"? Have you heard of terrorists before? muriel_volestrangler Apr 30 #50
Nice try. Do you remember when the Gazans rose up against Hamas during the Arab Spring? AnrothElf Apr 30 #51
What has that to do with your assertions on how American protesters should protest? muriel_volestrangler Apr 30 #52
My point is that we really wouldn't know how effective it might be, since not even Gazans have bothered to try. AnrothElf Apr 30 #53
No, that's nonsense. muriel_volestrangler Apr 30 #55
They are helping Trump Mz Pip Apr 27 #8
They don't care about Palestine Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 27 #12
Performative outrage Mz Pip Apr 27 #16
I'm not sure how they're helping Trump Shermanator Apr 28 #29
There's that Mz Pip Apr 28 #36
They don't care about the people of Gaza JI7 Apr 28 #40
IMO this event should be permanently shelved. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 27 #2
You mean the war in Gaza? FSogol Apr 27 #5
Of course! I have no doubt that's what they had in mind. Abolishinist Apr 27 #13
Good hueymahl Apr 27 #6
I know, right? Abolishinist Apr 27 #18
Yeah, because we shouldn't hold our media responsible hueymahl Apr 29 #43
I saw it on YouTube. Those protests seem to find me..LOL LeftInTX Apr 27 #7
How many of those protesting will be building coalitions and working for lasting change in the region littlemissmartypants Apr 27 #9
But virtue signaling is more fun to these people Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 27 #11
That and disrupting the peace here at home. I believe that littlemissmartypants Apr 27 #14
When we were young, many of us protested unjust wars womanofthehills Apr 27 #17
Agree ananda Apr 27 #19
Yep. Shermanator Apr 28 #30
Barbarian Hamas terrorists don't give a damn about the death of Israelis Justice matters. Apr 28 #42
I'm critical of virtue signaling as opposed to action that might actually yield results. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 27 #20
No. The protests against the Vietnam war were by students who did not want to go there question everything Apr 27 #22
You act as though Netanyahu Shermanator Apr 28 #31
How do you feel about the atrocities committed against Israel since its founding? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 28 #39
If you are seeing videos of dead babies pulled out of rubble every day womanofthehills Apr 30 #45
At least you see dead babies. Following the Oct 7 there were only charred remains of babies question everything Apr 30 #46
"They have the internet for instant information" Jedi Guy Apr 30 #54
when i protested the invasion of Iraq i didn't support Saddam MistakenLamb Apr 28 #38
It is simplistic to reduce this to "virtue signaling." They are all individual people who have their reasons. Earth-shine Apr 28 #23
Oh please Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 28 #27
I completely agree with you that protests shouldn't block buildings, bridges, highways and the like. Earth-shine Apr 28 #34
When I was in college there were protests demanding divestment from apartheid South Africa AdamGG Apr 28 #24
Stupid assholes. JohnSJ Apr 27 #10
They never seem to show up for a piece of shit MAGA event. Fuck this pro Hamas shit they do. SoFlaBro Apr 28 #25
That itself speaks volumes JohnSJ Apr 28 #35
I don't trust them doing the right thing. F them LiberalFighter Apr 27 #15
Regardless of the messagers, the message isn't incorrect... RockRaven Apr 28 #26
This dinner's the primary funding for scholarship/mentorships for journalism students by the association. betsuni Apr 28 #28
A protest for peace and humanitarian aid would be legitimate... NowsTheTime Apr 28 #32
'These people' are so horrible, aren't they? Aussie105 Apr 28 #33
IMO, the only goal of the demonstrators is clicks and likes. There are people who really make a Vinca Apr 28 #37
So tired of this DirtySausage Apr 28 #41
Aka Rich White Kids cosplaying as Hamas. Lol Oneironaut Apr 29 #44
Careful! Aussie105 Apr 30 #47

comradebillyboy

(10,184 posts)
1. The poor people of Gaza and the Occupied Territories
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 08:39 PM
Apr 27

deserve a better class of supporters. These demonstrators aren't winning support from anybody.

AnrothElf

(666 posts)
3. They'd be far more effective if they'd just protest HAMAS instead.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 09:00 PM
Apr 27

Put the pressure on those to blame for the conflict, and for not agreeing to a ceasefire.

Demsrule86

(68,772 posts)
4. Some of them carry signs supporting Hamas.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 09:04 PM
Apr 27

Jewish Americans are not responsible for what happens in Israel. I think the protestors are doing nothing except disrupt other kids education,

muriel_volestrangler

(101,406 posts)
48. Do you really think that Hamas bases its decisions on protests in the USA?
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 04:42 AM
Apr 30

I just can't see how you could. The point of protesting the Western media, or in the West generally, is to get the West to change its policy.

AnrothElf

(666 posts)
49. I guess we'd never know, since nobody ever seems to protest Hamas. It's only ever one side.
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 10:50 AM
Apr 30

Hell, not even Gazans seem to protest Hamas. Maybe because they know if they did, they and their families would be tortured and murdered.

Crazy! It's almost like Hamas are terrorists or something!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,406 posts)
50. "We'd never know"? Have you heard of terrorists before?
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 11:32 AM
Apr 30

Can you think of any other example of terrorists outside the USA basing their actions on protests in the USA? I can't. So how come you confidently asserted "they'd be far more effective if they'd just protest HAMAS instead". It's almost as if you hadn't thought it through.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,406 posts)
52. What has that to do with your assertions on how American protesters should protest?
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 12:00 PM
Apr 30

Try and remember the topic of the thread, and what you've said in it.

AnrothElf

(666 posts)
53. My point is that we really wouldn't know how effective it might be, since not even Gazans have bothered to try.
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 12:04 PM
Apr 30

Is that plain enough for ya?

Or maybe it's better to put it this way:

It certainly doesn't help to protest in FAVOR of Hamas, which is effectively what these fake "leftist" protesters are doing.

They're effectively propagandists for Hamas.

Is that clear enough for ya?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,406 posts)
55. No, that's nonsense.
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 02:06 PM
Apr 30

You say these protesters are "fake leftist". You've no evidence of that. They are protesting against the killing of Gazans, and of journalists. That's quite compatible with being leftist. They are not protesting in favour of Hamas. You still have not even tried to explain why you were sure that protesting against Hamas would get the killing of Gazans and journalists ended faster; though you've no admitted you've no evidence.

It's clear you've been posting nonsense on this thread.

Abolishinist

(1,320 posts)
18. I know, right?
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 10:20 PM
Apr 27

I much prefer the Kremlin Correspondent's Uzhin, or even better, Kim Jong Un's Eat Here or Be Dead Kimchi dinner.

hueymahl

(2,510 posts)
43. Yeah, because we shouldn't hold our media responsible
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 09:49 AM
Apr 29

I mean, they could be so much worse. We should be happy with what we have and not complain, ever.

Such a proud display of American values.

LeftInTX

(25,725 posts)
7. I saw it on YouTube. Those protests seem to find me..LOL
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 09:31 PM
Apr 27

I hope there aren't too many jokes about the war etc.
It will just fan the flames. Hope it's a bunch of Trump jokes.

littlemissmartypants

(22,852 posts)
9. How many of those protesting will be building coalitions and working for lasting change in the region
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 09:49 PM
Apr 27

once the causes du jour are long forgotten? I wonder.

littlemissmartypants

(22,852 posts)
14. That and disrupting the peace here at home. I believe that
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 10:07 PM
Apr 27

Outside agitators are and will always be involved in these events because the real goal for many is anarchy.

womanofthehills

(8,802 posts)
17. When we were young, many of us protested unjust wars
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 10:18 PM
Apr 27

Wars we saw few pictures off - these kids are seeing horrific images of children on their phones everyday.

As adults, many of us also protested the Iraq war.

Now you guys are being critical of the youth.

ananda

(28,893 posts)
19. Agree
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 10:23 PM
Apr 27

I think the USA's support of Israel has gone
in a direction that is unconscionable.

Yes, Hamas is pure evil, but so is Netanyahu
and the IDF now.

 

Shermanator

(45 posts)
30. Yep.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 02:42 AM
Apr 28

Hamas and Natanyahu's government are two peas in a pod. Neither give a damn about the death of Palestinians. It's all about fulfilling their own political goals.

Justice matters.

(6,955 posts)
42. Barbarian Hamas terrorists don't give a damn about the death of Israelis
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 06:02 PM
Apr 28

and kidnapped concert goers, and raped women in Kibbutzes and probably in captivity too.

Thought that one was missing in your comment.

It's missing in too many comments, not just yours, so no offense.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,406 posts)
20. I'm critical of virtue signaling as opposed to action that might actually yield results.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 10:26 PM
Apr 27

And I'm no fan of Netanyahu but I reject the false equivalency with Hamas.

question everything

(47,572 posts)
22. No. The protests against the Vietnam war were by students who did not want to go there
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 11:58 PM
Apr 27

There are no American soldiers in Gaza.

I wonder how many of them can even point Gaza on the map.

And is anyone calling for the release of the hostages? Of course not.

Just spoiled brats looking for excitement.

You want to do good? Go volunteer in the inner cities. Help kids with their class work. Keep them busy until their mothers comes home. Be a big brother or a big sister. But nooo.. will not pump the adrenaline.

 

Shermanator

(45 posts)
31. You act as though Netanyahu
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 02:46 AM
Apr 28

cares about the hostages. He doesn't know where the hostages are and he's leveling Gaza. He'll be picking up the bodies of the hostages from under the rubble.

How do you personally feel about the atrocities being committed against the Palestinians by the Israeli government?

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,488 posts)
39. How do you feel about the atrocities committed against Israel since its founding?
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 09:45 AM
Apr 28


Notice you don't say one word about that, why is that?
Hope you enjoy DU.

womanofthehills

(8,802 posts)
45. If you are seeing videos of dead babies pulled out of rubble every day
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 12:47 AM
Apr 30

Does it matter where Gaza is on the map? Lots of Jewish kids in Jewish Voices for Peace, have I’m sure visited Israel. You really think kids at a top Univ like Columbia have no idea where Gaza is? You sure underestimate American kids.

Older people get most of their news from cable. Younger people get their news on social media - TicToc, Twitter, Instagram, Podcasts, etc. Younger people see all the horrors of war that people who get their news on cable don’t see.



But there are thousands of American troops at bases in the Middle East and their lives are in danger. They might use American troops on the dock distributing food.

Our kids are seeing babies having amputations with no anesthesia and they realize how horrifying sick and evil this is and you are saying kids are selfish reacting to these images. Obviously you are not interacting with young people or you would see how bright they are. They have the internet for instant information -

question everything

(47,572 posts)
46. At least you see dead babies. Following the Oct 7 there were only charred remains of babies
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 01:01 AM
Apr 30

who were burnt alive. Upon further investigation some of these charred chunks were of a parent and a baby.

How can some here be so obtuse towards the atrocities that were carried by Hamas, the mutilations the sadistic killing and then posting on the victims’ phone and sent all over?

Jedi Guy

(3,284 posts)
54. "They have the internet for instant information"
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 01:52 PM
Apr 30

Indeed, yes. And as we all know, lies and disinformation never, ever get posted on the internet. TikTok, Instagram, and other social media ecosystems are without a doubt bastions of unimpeachable journalism and present only objective fact and truth...

I'm more than a little skeptical of the knowledge and wisdom of people whose primary media consumption is social media. All too often it's either an echo chamber that confirms existing confirmation biases or it's outright bullshit being shoveled into the faces of an oblivious audience.

MistakenLamb

(546 posts)
38. when i protested the invasion of Iraq i didn't support Saddam
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 08:57 AM
Apr 28

these youth are supporting an Islamist terrorist group and saying they were justified for 10/7

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
23. It is simplistic to reduce this to "virtue signaling." They are all individual people who have their reasons.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 12:06 AM
Apr 28

Many are sincerely protesting the war and don't how else to go about it. Many are just egged on by outside agitators.

Many who say "From the river to the sea" are just wanting Palestine to be free of Israel. They are too young and ill-informed to know it is a familiar antisemitic chant.

I know that when I was in college some 40 years ago, I attended protests based on what I believed a situation to be instead of actually researching it.

In reality, these protests won't amount to anything but more trouble for Jewish students, the University presidents, and those who are protesting.

But to dismiss this as virtue signaling -- to say they are insincere -- well, that's just another reason why they feel they have to protest. They are not being heard. They are being dismissed.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,406 posts)
27. Oh please
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 02:06 AM
Apr 28

When someone works behind the scenes for a solution I can respect that.

When someone blocks the access of other people who have nothing to do with the problem they're are protesting, whether it be on a college campus, a freeway or an airport that behavior is not to be congratulated. Nor is shouting others down.

If they can assemble peacefully without infringing on the rights others then more of us can take them seriously. I've seen many groups behave better in the 66 years I've been on this planet.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
34. I completely agree with you that protests shouldn't block buildings, bridges, highways and the like.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 04:56 AM
Apr 28

However, I find reducing a description of their motivations to "all of them are virtue signaling" absurd on the face of it.

You are letting them know they are not being heard. Hence, a further need for protest.

It's like any protest. Some of them really believe in their cause. Some just want or need to be part of the group. Some are looking to get out of finals. Some are just egged on by outside forces. (I think right-wing and possibly Russian sources are infiltrating their social media streams, fanning the flames, and organizing some protests.)

And definitely, some are virtue signaling, meaning they have nothing better to do with themselves but make trouble.

AdamGG

(1,298 posts)
24. When I was in college there were protests demanding divestment from apartheid South Africa
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 12:20 AM
Apr 28

I'm not saying that the merits of the causes are the same, but I doubt those kids did a lot to help the people in South Africa other than protest and have fun hanging out and getting high around our campus shantytown.

In a lot of cases, it seems that the college protesters (not talking about the ones protesting President Biden) are arrested much more quickly than if they were protesting about a different cause. Gov. Abbott was quick to spout off about how he was shutting down protesters at Univ. of Texas.

Hamas is terrible and I support the existence of Israel, but Netanyahu keeps accelerating settlement in the west bank and the frustration on the other side isn't hard to understand.

RockRaven

(15,068 posts)
26. Regardless of the messagers, the message isn't incorrect...
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 01:10 AM
Apr 28

The WH/DC MSM/corporate media assholes attending that event are the most cynical, mewling, access-obsessed, and/or confabulistic "journalists" who disgrace the very name -- that side of the National Enquirer or Weekly World News, anyway.

betsuni

(25,764 posts)
28. This dinner's the primary funding for scholarship/mentorships for journalism students by the association.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 02:07 AM
Apr 28

HOLDING CLUTCH PURSES. WESTERN MEDIA HORRORS.

NowsTheTime

(724 posts)
32. A protest for peace and humanitarian aid would be legitimate...
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 02:53 AM
Apr 28

...but mixed motives of those protesting makes for a volatile situation..

Aussie105

(5,478 posts)
33. 'These people' are so horrible, aren't they?
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 03:17 AM
Apr 28

I mean, acting up like that, disrupting the normal flow of things, really . . . take it to a back street somewhere, and sing kumbaya, quietly.

And their communication skills! Sadly lacking, saying all sorts of horrible things!

. . . yes, on my part.

Demonstrating against something is meant to be disruptive, don't you know?
How else will you get attention?

I think the majority of 'these people' have one thing in common - lamenting past and ongoing civilian deaths at the hands of the Israeli war machine.

If I joined in and held up a sign that read 'Stop killing innocent civilians!' would that make me pro Hamas and anti Israel?
You decide, but it will be your interpretation and bias on show, not mine.

Vinca

(50,323 posts)
37. IMO, the only goal of the demonstrators is clicks and likes. There are people who really make a
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 08:32 AM
Apr 28

difference like Chef Andres and then there are attention seekers. Yelling and screaming and being a pain in the ass is going to solve nothing.

DirtySausage

(8 posts)
41. So tired of this
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 10:26 AM
Apr 28

Since I was little these idiots have been fighting over the "holy land." As far as I'm concerned, they can turn that whole region into the worlds largest Walmart and it wouldn't phase me. Gaza, Israel all the way up to Lebanon. Sick of hearing about it.

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