Biden Says Arab States Ready to Recognize Israel in Future Deal

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: Bloomberg

March 28, 2024 at 10:33 PM EDT


President Joe Biden said Arab countries including Saudi Arabia were prepared to “fully recognize Israel” in a future deal as he and his Democratic predecessors Bill Clinton and Barack Obama pushed back on critics of his Middle East policies at a campaign event Thursday.

Biden’s comments came during a discussion with his fellow presidents at a star-studded fundraiser at Radio City Music Hall in New York intended to display Democratic party unity ahead of a general-election rematch with Republican Donald Trump.

The presidents, though, were interrupted at least four times by pro-Palestinian protesters, highlighting the tensions within the party over Biden’s handling of Israel’s war with Hamas and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. “I’ve been working with the Saudis and with all the other Arab countries, including Egypt and Jordan and Qatar.

They’re prepared to fully recognize Israel,” Biden said after one such interruption. “There has to be a post-Gaza plan, and there has to be a trade to a two-state solution. It doesn’t have to occur today. It has to be a progression and I think we can do that.”

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-29/biden-says-arab-states-ready-to-recognize-israel-in-future-deal

[no_hypocrisy]

1. Would they passively recognize Israel, or

would they be willing to fight HAMAS when attacking Israel?

[BumRushDaShow]

2. "would they be willing to fight HAMAS when attacking Israel?"

They already have/sponsor their own groups like Hezbollah or the Houthis, etc. They probably don't care about Hamas per se.

[twodogsbarking]

3. The Holy Land.

[cstanleytech]

4. Now if only Israel would move their capital and place Jerusalem under the jursidction of the UN.

That alone might reduce some of the friction in the region since no one country would have sovereignty over it.

[former9thward]

5. Israel is a sovereign country.

Other countries don't get to tell it where its capital is going to be. Maybe the UN should tell the U.S. to move Washington D.C.?

[IronLionZion]

6. US can move our Capital to Greenland and take that land

Russia can decide their capital is now Kiev, Ukraine and take it.

[moniss]

7. It was in the partition plan that

Jerusalem would remain an international city rather than a city of only one nation. You can go on the UN web site and find all the references to it and UN resolutions about it down through the years. Of course there was supposed to be compensation and right of return also but that hasn't been dealt with either despite over 76 years of promises.

We did not have our embassy in Jerusalem until the Orange Ruski went against our agreements and commitments to not recognize Jerusalem as the capital in keeping with the UN plan that the city remain an international city accessible by all and governed in that manner.

[former9thward]

11. The Arabs and Palestinians rejected that partition paln.

So that went out the window when the Arabs attacked Israel in 1948, rejecting the UN plan, and the UN did nothing to defend Israel. That blood has been spilled and it is 75 years too late to go back to that.

Clinton, Bush, Obama all said they would move the embassy to Jerusalem when they campaigned for president. All of them. It was finally moved as it should have been as all those presidents promised. Biden has kept it in Jerusalem. Are you against his decision?

Do other countries decide where to put their primary embassies in the U.S.? No, they are in D.C. Why do you single out Israel for "special treatment"?

[moniss]

13. It does not matter if the Arabs rejected

because the Israelis said they were accepting and the UN recognized on that basis. People seem to not understand that the entire area was under UN administration and that the area delineated in the plan and subsequently agreed to by Israel was not without conditions. This was never a sort of "war of independence" where a population in a country does an "overthrow " of a colonial power. It was a matter of the UN coming up with a plan for all parties. Just because some accepted and some rejected does not mean the ones who accepted are now no longer bound by the plan they accepted. That includes the status of Jerusalem.

Clinton and Bush both spoke about moving the embassy but contingent upon negotiations between the Palestinians and Israel. Obama made a campaign speech to AIPAC making a similar statement but without the mention of the negotiations. He realized the misstep almost immediately and later clarified that it was all contingent upon negotiations between the Palestinians and Israel. That is the fact of the matter and I include a link here. The Orange Ruski moving the embassy in the absence of those negotiations which had always been a UN requirement negated decades of longstanding US foreign policy. I would note further that it is not up to the US or any other country to decide the capital of Israel or the status of Jerusalem. It is the right of any and all of the countries of the world to demand that the provisions of the agreement be upheld about the status of Jerusalem which were a part of the UN plan allowing the establishment of Israel on land under UN jurisdiction. Yes I am in disagreement about keeping the embassy in Jerusalem until the commitment to negotiate is completed and the more reasonable approach at this point would be to downgrade the status of our presence there to that of a consulate.

There is no "singling out" of Israel being done. It would be the same for any other country in a similar situation. The fact that any of the parties involved who are UN members who consistently do not abide by UN resolutions, refuse to cooperate with UN personnel duly authorized by the body to visit areas and gather information etc. is not a matter of one country alone in belligerence but a plain reading of the facts shows that some do try to stall and frustrate compliance with their commitments while they try to change the facts on the ground. It is not ethical to do so in order to make those commitments moot. But it does happen. My personal feeling is that if a member of a body doesn't want to abide by the rules of the body then they should be expelled from the body. That is for any country and not just one.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-07/what-have-past-presidents-said-about-israel-and-jerusalem/9234736

[cstanleytech]

9. Yes, they are now but that's not part of the discussion rather it's their taking over Jerusalem as their capital.

That's what I think is what's really helping fuel a lot of the hatered but moving their capital to say Tel Aviv would help take the wind out of the sails of the ones that are taking advantage of that hatred after they proclaimed it as their capital after their war.

[sarisataka]

8. I can see how that would be unpopular with the protesters

Recognition of Israel is not one of their goals.

[ClaudetteCC]

10. Is this a continuation of the Abraham Accords

or something new?

[malthaussen]

12. If true, that would be a good thing. What's the price tag? n/t

[JoseBalow]

14. Everything

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

15. That was the prime motivation behind the Oct 7 attack by Hamas

Hamas is scared shitless.