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brooklynite

(94,581 posts)
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 12:50 PM Mar 28

Project 2025 partner floats repealing the 22nd Amendment and allowing Trump to serve a third term

Source: Media Matters

The American Conservative, a right-wing blog and Project 2025 partner, published an article advocating to repeal the 22nd Amendment so that Donald Trump would be able to serve a third term.

The 22nd Amendment, ratified in 1951, limits a president to serving two terms. It was adopted after former President Franklin Delano Roosevelt was elected to a third and fourth term amid public concerns about a “long-term president.”

An article headlined “Trump 2028” published in The American Conservative advocates for the amendment’s repeal so that Trump could be eligible to serve a third term should he win the 2024 election. The American Conservative is a partner of Project 2025, the conservative movement’s comprehensive transition plan for the next Republican presidency. Project 2025 — organized and led by The Heritage Foundation, a leading right-wing think tank — is a policy and staffing initiative that threatens to weaken democracy, significantly roll back civil rights, and exacerbate climate change, among other issues.

Peter Tonguette, a contributing writer to the Washington Examiner who also regularly writes for The American Conservative, dubiously argues in his piece that the drafters of the 22nd Amendment could not have anticipated a president who would serve nonconsecutive terms, a possibility that he argues is a reflection of Trump’s supposedly unique popularity. (Polls show that the majority of Americans have an unfavorable view of the former president.) He says voters should not be “denied the freedom” to elect him to a third term.


Read more: https://www.mediamatters.org/project-2025/project-2025-partner-floats-repealing-22nd-amendment-and-allowing-trump-serve-third

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Project 2025 partner floats repealing the 22nd Amendment and allowing Trump to serve a third term (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 28 OP
Would be funny if this backfired and they got an Obama third term. All Mixed Up Mar 28 #1
" It was adopted after former President Franklin Delano Roosevelt was elected to a third and fourth term..." Grins Mar 28 #2
And ironically, the first president affected by the 22nd Amendment was.... DFW Mar 29 #31
If 2/3 of the states ratify such a thing, the country is already past the end times. eggplant Mar 28 #3
The Heritage Foundation has been planning for years to use the constitutional convention route. Eugene Mar 28 #16
Before this scenario can ever become possible in the US FakeNoose Mar 28 #19
Then what????? Donald J. Trump!!!!!!! OAITW r.2.0 Mar 29 #28
👎👎👎 No thanks FakeNoose Mar 29 #30
It takes 2/3rds to propose an amendment; 3/4ths are required to ratify. rsdsharp Mar 29 #27
my error. an even higher bar! eggplant Mar 29 #34
Repeal the 22nd in one hand, and shit in the other. Aristus Mar 28 #4
WTF EarlG Mar 28 #5
Anyone who writes for the Examiner AND the American Conservative FakeNoose Mar 28 #20
"supposedly unique popularity" - that would be losing the popular vote twice in a row muriel_volestrangler Mar 29 #35
Voters didn't want him for a 2nd term, why on earth do they think he'd get a third? Marthe48 Mar 28 #6
Can you imagine how mentally unraveled Doturd would be in a THIRD TERM?? AZ8theist Mar 28 #13
A better idea for floating liberalgunwilltravel Mar 28 #7
I have been expecting this. They're going to say something about consecutive terms, and his first term was marred etc Walleye Mar 28 #8
Doesn't surprise me. Mz Pip Mar 28 #9
Scotus doesn't get to vote on amendments added or removed. Captain Zero Mar 29 #36
There needs to be a database compiled of these creeps. LiberalFighter Mar 28 #10
Doesn't matter. Trump will lose the 2024 election so he can run again in 2028. Squaredeal Mar 28 #11
Or has shuffled off this mortal coil. nt Dulcinea Mar 28 #21
"GAME OVER" OAITW r.2.0 Mar 29 #29
There are 2 paths to accomplish this... getagrip_already Mar 28 #12
LOL! Bayard Mar 28 #14
Well then... if we are going to start reflecting on what the drafters anticipated.... IcyPeas Mar 28 #15
It's never occurred to them NanaCat Mar 28 #17
... ColinC Mar 28 #18
I was wondering how long it would take for this idea to surface. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 28 #22
A million people lost their lives to Covid FakeNoose Mar 30 #37
Obama over there like, "Yo! Michelle! You ready? Imma fuck around and do this!!" SKKY Mar 28 #23
One sentence will stop this nonsense in its tracks jmowreader Mar 28 #24
I support repealing the 22nd Amendment as well Polybius Mar 28 #25
Gag me viva la Mar 28 #26
If Trump wins this time, the word "term" will become obsolete. zanana1 Mar 29 #32
That kind of blows their argument about Biden being too old. Grins Mar 29 #33
History proves over and over Marthe48 Mar 30 #38
Sure. Aussie105 Mar 30 #39
Project 2025 clearly spells out the plan to make trump president for life LetMyPeopleVote Apr 3 #40
'In office forever': Trump's Project 2025 partner calls for ending presidential term limit LetMyPeopleVote Apr 3 #41
Partner of Trump's Project 2025 calls for abolishing the 22nd Amendment, allowing Trump to be in office forever LetMyPeopleVote Apr 3 #42
 

All Mixed Up

(597 posts)
1. Would be funny if this backfired and they got an Obama third term.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 12:52 PM
Mar 28

But there ain't no chance in hell this amendment is repealed.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
2. " It was adopted after former President Franklin Delano Roosevelt was elected to a third and fourth term..."
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:07 PM
Mar 28

Better?

“It was adopted after a DEMOCRAT was elected to a third and fourth term.”

Certainly more accurate.

DFW

(54,387 posts)
31. And ironically, the first president affected by the 22nd Amendment was....
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 10:10 AM
Mar 29

Last edited Fri Mar 29, 2024, 01:31 PM - Edit history (1)

Their very own Eisenhower, who WOULD have won a third term. Although—Eisenhower might have been the ONLY post-22 Republican president who could have. It’s barely conceivable Reagan might have, but even he knew how far his Alzheimer’s was advanced, and probably would have nixed the idea himself. Nixon fled to avoid impeachment and probable removal. Ford was tainted with Nixon’s stench. Bush I couldn’t survive the economy Reagan left him, and Bush Lite only made term two with Kenneth Blackwell and Diebold manipulating Ohio until it produced the numbers they wanted. Like Rep. Peter King said in an inadvertent moment when the cameras were rolling, “We won. It’s all over but the counting, and we’ll take care of the counting.” He should have been taken more seriously at the time, since that is exactly what they did.

Eugene

(61,899 posts)
16. The Heritage Foundation has been planning for years to use the constitutional convention route.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 03:26 PM
Mar 28

That is also part of their Project 2025 action plan.
They want to put the whole constitution on the table
and take out the parts they don't like.

They just made a renewed push in late 2023.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_to_propose_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Among other things, the proposal would overturn one-person-one-vote
in Congressional apportionment, repeal federal 16th Amendment taxing
authority and abolish the popular election of senators.

Abolish term limits for their autocrat? Of course.

This would-be authoritarian takeover does not intend to rely
on democratic means.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
19. Before this scenario can ever become possible in the US
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 05:12 PM
Mar 28

... Chump is going to croak.

Then what? They're back to square one again.

I prefer the Constitution staying the way it is right now. It should be really, really hard to ever amend it.

EarlG

(21,949 posts)
5. WTF
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:23 PM
Mar 28

"Peter Tonguette, a contributing writer to the Washington Examiner who also regularly writes for The American Conservative, dubiously argues in his piece that the drafters of the 22nd Amendment could not have anticipated a president who would serve nonconsecutive terms."

The 22nd Amendment was ratified in 1951. Prior to that we'd already had a president who served two non-consecutive terms -- Grover Cleveland, from 1885-1889, and from 1893-1897.

I mean sure, this is just more Trump cult virtue signaling, but even still, I say wtf.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
20. Anyone who writes for the Examiner AND the American Conservative
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 05:15 PM
Mar 28

... has to be an idiot, or a rank amateur.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,319 posts)
35. "supposedly unique popularity" - that would be losing the popular vote twice in a row
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 03:11 PM
Mar 29

I think he's the only one to have done that and yet become president one of those times. Not the kind of "uniqueness" that needs an amendment repealing, though.

Marthe48

(16,963 posts)
6. Voters didn't want him for a 2nd term, why on earth do they think he'd get a third?
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:24 PM
Mar 28

What planet are they on?

AZ8theist

(5,467 posts)
13. Can you imagine how mentally unraveled Doturd would be in a THIRD TERM??
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 02:03 PM
Mar 28

This would be his every day image (minus the drooling...):

7. A better idea for floating
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:28 PM
Mar 28

I have a better idea for floating. Trump's bloated body once hamberders and KFC do their jobs.

Walleye

(31,027 posts)
8. I have been expecting this. They're going to say something about consecutive terms, and his first term was marred etc
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:32 PM
Mar 28

Mz Pip

(27,445 posts)
9. Doesn't surprise me.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:43 PM
Mar 28

I figured they’d go after the 22nd Amendment. The originalists on SCOTUS would vote to repeal it.

Squaredeal

(398 posts)
11. Doesn't matter. Trump will lose the 2024 election so he can run again in 2028.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:49 PM
Mar 28

That is if he isn't completely bonkers by then or in prison.

getagrip_already

(14,752 posts)
12. There are 2 paths to accomplish this...
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 02:02 PM
Mar 28

One is to repeal it, the other is to nullify it via scotus.

They effectively nullified the 14th amendment section 3. They can find a way to allow him another term.

Maybe they will rule his first term was spoiled. They can find a way.

If he gets back in power it really won't matter. Scotus will be a rubber stamp, as will state and federal courts and legislatures.

IcyPeas

(21,876 posts)
15. Well then... if we are going to start reflecting on what the drafters anticipated....
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 03:02 PM
Mar 28
..... dubiously argues in his piece that the drafters of the 22nd Amendment could not have anticipated ....



I'm sure the drafters of the second amendment didn't predict today's guns...




22. I was wondering how long it would take for this idea to surface.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 06:08 PM
Mar 28

We can expect TFG to claim he is owed a third time because, "My first time was taken up by witch hunts."

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
37. A million people lost their lives to Covid
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 04:29 PM
Mar 30

Chump was in charge, and he could have done something on his watch to safeguard Americans.
How many are "owed" their lives back because of his incompetence?

Nope I'll never buy the argument that Chump is owed anything.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
24. One sentence will stop this nonsense in its tracks
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 09:14 PM
Mar 28

"I'm Barack Obama, and if you repeal the 22nd Amendment I'm filing to run for president that very day."

Grins

(7,217 posts)
33. That kind of blows their argument about Biden being too old.
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 01:33 PM
Mar 29

Trump is 78.

If he is elected in 2024 (Quelle horreur!) he will be 82 at the end of his 2nd term, and 86 at the end of his 3rd.

Marthe48

(16,963 posts)
38. History proves over and over
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 06:00 PM
Mar 30

that tyranny only goes further and further to usurp individual rights and corrupt power. It ends with people rebelling against the dictator and their loyalists and killing as many as they can. Maybe establishing a new kind of government that respects individual rights and limits power.

How does democracy die? It is like asking where have all the flowers gone.

What kind of governance we want depends on how much personal responsibility we will accept. That depends on our moral compass, confidence we can pilot our own ship, and determination to stay on course. If we surrender our right to make choices best for us, we are surrendering everyone's right to that determination. We must respect others as we set our course. It is possible to do what is best for yourself without harming others or usurping their rights. Tyranny doesn't get that.

Some of the monkey or ape species will have a fight between males for supremacy. If a male bests the current leader of the group, the new male mates with every female and kills any infants fathered by the former leader. There are other changes too, made to insure the new leader maintains his power. Humans are not apes, but I'll tell you, when I see the results of tyranny, I think of what happens when the monkeys or apes have a power struggle.

Aussie105

(5,397 posts)
39. Sure.
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 06:04 PM
Mar 30

If you think Trump will get a second term and do much better than his first so he deserves a third term, why not?

Total reality dislocation like this needs some reality check type intervention.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,278 posts)
41. 'In office forever': Trump's Project 2025 partner calls for ending presidential term limit
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 05:08 PM
Apr 3

TFG wants to be President for life like Putin



https://www.rawstory.com/trump-term-limits/

Conservatives are advocating to repeal the U.S. Amendment that limits presidential terms, prompting President Joe Biden's campaign to warn an election year victory for former President Donald Trump could allow him to remain "in office forever."

Biden-Harris HQ shared on X Friday an article from the American Conservative, a blog partnered with the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 policy initiative that calls for, among other actions, filling civil service jobs with Trump loyalists.

"If a man who once was president returns ... to deny him the right to run for a second consecutive term cuts against basic fair play," the argument states. "Don't let questions of Trump's age in four years fool you. Trump in 2028!"

American Conservative's argument targets the 22nd Amendment, which limits a president to two terms in the White House and was adopted in 1951 after former President Franklin Delano Roosevelt was elected to a historic four terms.
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