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Tue Feb 20, 2024, 06:04 PM Feb 20

Ruby Franke: Parenting advice YouTuber given maximum sentence for child abuse

Source: BBC

A Utah woman whose harsh parenting advice built her a massive YouTube following has been sentenced to four to 60 years in prison.

Ruby Franke, 42, previously pleaded guilty to accusations of starving and abusing her children.

She appeared in court on Tuesday along with her former business partner Jodi Hildebrandt, 54, who received an identical sentence.
"The children were regularly denied food, water, beds to sleep in, and virtually all forms of entertainment," Mr Clarke said.

Read more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68353302

She seems to be blaming someone else for "leading her astray", but who?

"I was led to believe that this world was an evil place, filled with cops who control, hospitals that injure, government agencies that brainwash, church leaders who lie and lust, husbands who refuse to protect and children who need abuse."
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6. In states that use ranges like that, rather than a single number, there is a specific reason
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 09:11 PM
Feb 20

The sentence is the whole 60 years, the lower number is their first parole eligibility. Their parole will continue until the end of that 60 years, if and when they are granted parole.


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9. What a total shit show. Don't they still have firing squad as an execution method or some other weird fucking method?
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 11:57 PM
Feb 20

viva la

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2. 'children who need abuse'?
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 06:08 PM
Feb 20

"I was led to believe that this world was an evil place, filled with cops who control, hospitals that injure, government agencies that brainwash, church leaders who lie and lust, husbands who refuse to protect and children who need abuse."

She's such a scoundrel, really. I remember the video of her grinning and laughing as she talked about how she punished her children repeatedly for minor mistakes. She took pleasure in hurting them. She was completely rational when she did it-- she chose to hurt them. No one led her to it.

But thousands of parents eagerly watched her Youtube channel and supported her methods. Scary.


(66,549 posts)
3. "Children who need abuse".
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 06:15 PM
Feb 20


We're coming up on the bit in the dystopian film when many of the major characters commit suicide en masse because the world is just too horrible to go on living.


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5. 4 years is not enough for either of those evil witches. They tortured those kids in extreme ways for months.
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 07:12 PM
Feb 20

While telling the world how righteous they were as they did it.

Vile creatures.


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11. They also got four 15 year sentences though so unless the parole board decides to be more
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 01:38 AM
Feb 21

merciful to them than they were to the children they are going to not be out of prison anytime soon.


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12. They got four "one to fifteen year" sentences to be served consecutively.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:44 AM
Feb 21

The fifteen year sentences are not additional to the one year ones. They are the same sentences.

So while you are right that they probably will serve more than four years, I bet it won't be much more.


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16. The descriptions of what they did to those kids are heartbreaking.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:01 AM
Feb 21

But Franke was abusing her kids for years before, though not as severely. But it was in full view of her MILLIONS of followers on her Youtube channel.


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14. More lunatic prepper Mormons. Jodi Hildebrandt served on panels with Thomas Harrison,
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:57 AM
Feb 21

the guy who dictated the book Visions of Glory which is the Mormon prepper bible. It tells of "the end times" which of course are right around the corner. And of course when the end times come, only the holy ones will survive. The book has spawned a movement and has quietly sold hundreds of thousands of copies. The movement is affecting our politics, it foments the gun culture, and it legitimizes ultra-conservative political views.

And here we see how the kind of thinking the movement inspires can easily shove people over the cliff to where they believe anything that occurs to them comes from God and they are right to do it. Hidebrandt and Franke were only torturing the kids. Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow were big fans of the book, heavily affected by it, and they were murdering everyone around them, including her two children. Tim Ballard is a big fan and a friend of Thomas Harrison because Harrison told him he would be President. Ballard was assaulting women and scamming people of millions of dollars.

And instead of coming out against the book or quashing it, the Mormon church made Harrison a bishop.

This episode of Mormon Stories Podcast explains it. It's long, but worth the while of anyone who wants to understand some of the insanity we are seeing around us.

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