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HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:15 PM Nov 2012

Motivational Speaker Zig Ziglar Dies at Age 86

Source: ABC News

Motivational speaker and author Zig Ziglar has died in Texas. He was 86.

Ziglar's executive assistant Laurie Magers says Ziglar died Wednesday at a hospital in the Dallas suburb of Plano.

According to his Plano-based company's website, Ziglar was a World War II veteran who grew up in Yazoo City, Miss., and then went to work in sales for a series of companies, where his interest in motivational speaking grew.

Ziglar was known for corporate training and motivational speeches that aimed to improve people's personal lives and careers. His company includes more than a dozen other speakers who advocate "The Ziglar Way."

Ziglar wrote more than 30 books, including "See You at the Top" and "Over the Top."

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/motivational-speaker-zig-ziglar-dies-age-86-17828432



R.I.P., I guess. Kind of seemed like a con-man who took a lot of right-wing pals on cash-and-carry brightsiding seminars. They jammed up traffic a couple of years back when it came to the Q.
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Motivational Speaker Zig Ziglar Dies at Age 86 (Original Post) HughBeaumont Nov 2012 OP
R.I.P. livetohike Nov 2012 #1
He was mostly harmless BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #2
Yup. Your last sentence says it all. russspeakeasy Nov 2012 #3
His last words............. thelordofhell Nov 2012 #4
Can't say this is a great loss. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #5
I don't think I've ever read any peer-reviewed scientific data that motivational speaking Aristus Nov 2012 #6
Hated his ads. Good riddance to bad rubbish Panasonic Nov 2012 #7
I'm sure newspapers didn't. AngryOldDem Nov 2012 #22
He was just running one not more than two or three months ago - for days straight. Panasonic Nov 2012 #23
He told good stories that temporarily boosted the The Second Stone Nov 2012 #8
a) his association with (and contributions to) the most loathsome of wing-dings. HughBeaumont Nov 2012 #13
Glad to see a lot of people see through the bullshit. Prometheus Bound Nov 2012 #21
Never bought his books. Never heard him speak. davsand Nov 2012 #9
He'll be buried "In his van down by the river" byeya Nov 2012 #10
Religious Right Winger SoCalMusicLover Nov 2012 #11
saw him a few years back--i always preferred Brian Tracy dembotoz Nov 2012 #12
Forced to sit through his bullshit by my employer jaysunb Nov 2012 #14
RIP Zig AAO Nov 2012 #15
RIP to Zig. Beartracks Nov 2012 #16
At least he never delivered that horseshit from a pulpit Tom Ripley Nov 2012 #17
Zig Zigler had a very positive influence on a lot of lives, including mine BadGimp Nov 2012 #18
I have a question: Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2012 #19
eventually we all do BadGimp Nov 2012 #20

livetohike

(22,140 posts)
1. R.I.P.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:19 PM
Nov 2012

I saw Zig Ziglar at a corporate management seminar back in 1983. It was a rather small venue and I thought he was terrific.

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
2. He was mostly harmless
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:20 PM
Nov 2012

And his personal story was the stuff of his talks, even if he didn't mention it much. Lost his father when he was very young and made good. An American force of commericial nature. Not deep.

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
6. I don't think I've ever read any peer-reviewed scientific data that motivational speaking
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:05 PM
Nov 2012

improves productivity in workers, or morale in the workforce, for that matter.

It has always seemed like a bit of a con to me...

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
22. I'm sure newspapers didn't.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:47 AM
Nov 2012

I remember him back in the day purchasing full-pagers for a couple of days running.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
23. He was just running one not more than two or three months ago - for days straight.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:49 AM
Nov 2012

Ugggghhh..

I've had enough of seeing two-bit Republican demovational bores..


 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
8. He told good stories that temporarily boosted the
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:28 PM
Nov 2012

morale of salespersons, which is a truly depressing job. I read one of his books on Audio CD and found it entertaining. I don't get the hate on this site for him.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
13. a) his association with (and contributions to) the most loathsome of wing-dings.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:57 PM
Nov 2012

b) "Brightsiding" is just another load of corporate crapola which consists mainly of higher-ups contracting motivatorists to blow rainbows up the worker's asses in the hopes that they'll be inspired while getting their real-dollar wages slashed and their benefits taken away and their jobs third-worlded.

So many millions fall victim to this garbage and sorry to say, it's pretty much contributed to ZERO revolt against corporate malfeasance and chicanery in this country. So many millions are too in love with the Horatio Alger Fantasy drug to do anything against their "betters". We now have "divide and conquer" Palpatines purchasing our government and running our corporations . . . "Yes, fight your government, fight that poor person, fight each other . . . while I steal your money." Workers should be in the streets DAILY with the high iron fist they've been getting for 4-5 decades running.

Prometheus Bound

(3,489 posts)
21. Glad to see a lot of people see through the bullshit.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 05:41 AM
Nov 2012

I've listened to motivational speakers at dealer seminars, and love predicting and analyzing the stages of their talks, perhaps using the wise, now dead father to get the tears flowing, then quickly motivating the audience to laughter, then hilarity, and closing with the sales pitch, building enthusiasm to a fever pitch, as the district salesmen set up in their order-taking booths and the dealers line up to place their season's orders, hopefully before the enthusiasm wears off (about an hour, I'd guess).

I always marvel at how well it works. You'd thing you'd hear a few dealers mumbling, "Not this shit again."

davsand

(13,421 posts)
9. Never bought his books. Never heard him speak.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:37 PM
Nov 2012

Somebody loved him, I'm sure, and I do offer my sympathy to them.



Laura

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
11. Religious Right Winger
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:56 PM
Nov 2012

Whenever his seminars came around, he always had the cream of the crap of conservative guests. Guys like Bob Dole, Bush Sr., Colin Powell, Oliver North, among others.

Not dancing on his grave or anything, but he was a Republican through and through.

dembotoz

(16,802 posts)
12. saw him a few years back--i always preferred Brian Tracy
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:56 PM
Nov 2012

but he helped a lot of sales folks

some folks really got a lot out of what he said

think he helped a bunch of people
later found out he was sort of a right wing dick wad

but the sum total of his life was i think way positive.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
16. RIP to Zig.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:01 AM
Nov 2012

My brother used to talk about his influence when he was doing Amway a number of years back. The Amway folks attended a lot of motivational stuff, if I recall, so any experience with Zig Ziglar or his books must have been a natural fit.

I only ever heard good things about him. RIP.

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BadGimp

(4,015 posts)
18. Zig Zigler had a very positive influence on a lot of lives, including mine
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:20 AM
Nov 2012

He was a great man imo and he will be missed, certainly by me.

As to the ZZ haters in the house, the man is dead for heavens sake, please show some respect.. I think the giant of a man and another great motivational speaker Les Brown said it best: paraphrasing "..ya hear all the time about thousands of people dying every day cause of what they been eatin. But I am here to tell you that thousands more are dying cause of what's been eatin them".

Zig like so many of his kind have been and continue to the well of publicly available insight and learning from which people like myself have been able to turn to to learn to think differently when we lacked the guidance and leadership influence in our lives needed to help us make the choices to take control of our lives and our futures.


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