Rep. Rashida Tlaib urges Michigan Democrats to vote against Biden in the primary

[Jose Garcia]

Source: NBC News

Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., is urging Democrats in Dearborn, Michigan, to vote against President Joe Biden in the state's upcoming Democratic primary.

“If you want us to be louder, then come here and vote uncommitted,” Tlaib said in a new video posted to social media on Saturday while standing outside an early voting location.

She joined growing calls from progressive activists in Michigan to vote “uncommitted” in the state's Democratic presidential primary on Feb. 27 instead of voting for Biden.

The video of Tlaib was posted to the X account of “Listen to Michigan,” a group urging voters to vote “uncommitted” in the primary.

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[Talitha]

1. Shame...

[Kennah]

2. Party might not give ya any money for re-election

[Rebl2]

31. Hope not

[Rebl2]

53. Hope not

[betsuni]

3. Why? What's the goal here?

[Mr.Bill]

4. Protesting Biden's support for Israel.

It's a fine line for Biden to walk, but if we stopped supporting Israel, we would have no leverage over them. She's entitled to her opinion, and many of her constituents may think the same way she does, but this is not a smart political stunt.

[betsuni]

17. It's U.S. foreign policy, not Biden's personal opinion as if he has control over foreign governments

depending on his whims. Making it about Biden personally, same way Obama and Hillary were fictionalized as bloodthirsty warmongers so don't vote. This is my problem understanding.

Tlaib says, "Right now, we feel completely neglected, just unseen by our own government." As if the Biden administration and all Democratic administrations aren't doing all they can to resolve this and other situations. Both sides. Feelings aren't facts. It's protesting something that doesn't exist.

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that the Biden administration will negotiate some sort of ceasefire but it won't make any difference. There will still be "Genocide Joe" protests and urges not to vote for him because "feelings." As usual. It's a swing state.

[SqueakyWheel.363]

7. To send the message

that the current stance towards Israel is not acceptable. Biden will get the nomination anyway, there's no candidate that will pose a serious challenge.

[betsuni]

18. What do they think is the "current stance towards Israel"?

[yardwork]

25. Biden's current stance is to pressure Netanyahu to stop bombing.

What's the problem with that?

[GreenWave]

35. But in my area which voted for a Democrat President for the 1st time since JFK,

Elaine Luria walked the anti-Biden line to her own peril allowing lying Jen Kiggans to win and join the Magats.

[radical noodle]

5. This is so wrong-headed

Democrats should support Democrats.

[keithbvadu2]

6. I was all for her as part of the squad but now she is pro-Trump by default. Ideological purity.

[SqueakyWheel.363]

8. Its the primary,

it's not going to derail Biden's campaign

[keithbvadu2]

9. Even in this primary, it's Biden and a few bozos.

Maybe I'm stuck with my own idea of ideological purity.

[stopdiggin]

13. this isn't going to hurt Biden

and I'm going to save my venom for people that are actually refusing to vote Biden in the general.

I might think this is a little dippy - but it remains more a gesture than anything else. Nothing near like the the third party and "probably won't vote" crapola. That's some real damage - and some major league ignorance.

[yardwork]

26. It does hurt Biden.

Saying negative things about Biden will turn off some voters and they won't support him in the fall.

This approach helps Trump.

[badhair77]

55. Exactly.

This will carry over to the general election.

[Lovie777]

27. Corporate media will make sure it does..........................

[paleotn]

54. Until they feel ignored and sit home in Nov.

Thus potentially jeopardizing....American Fucking Democracy! Jebus, I hate ideologues of ANY kind. Idiots.

[AZLD4Candidate]

10. I am officially done with this person.

We don't need gadflies.

[PatSeg]

23. I had finally gotten over

her booing Hillary Clinton a few years back, but this is too much. I understand the concept of sending a message, but this is a politically dumb move. Yeah, I think I'm done as well. I don't find her behavior becoming for a Democratic United States Congresswoman.

[Rebl2]

32. Wish a democrat

would run against her or is there.

[PatSeg]

33. Same here

I am pretty much done with the political show-boating. We need serious Democrats in congress who know how legislating works and want to get things done.

[LakeArenal]

11. One issue voters are spoilers. She should know that.

It’s the primary. She better vote for him in the election.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

12. Yawn

Did she just fart?

[stopdiggin]

14. for those that didn't catch it the first time - PRIMARY - being a key word here

(doesn't mean I'm on board with it - but it's not quite the betrayal that some are letting on )

[Igel]

15. And not the act of loyalty that some would like. n/t

[SouthernDem4ever]

16. It's stupidity.

Protesting in a two party system these days just gets the other one elected. She can still advocate her position without publicly screwing the pooch.

[stopdiggin]

40. I've kind of gone beyond looking for 'loyalty' in certain corners

Tlaib would be exhibit A
This representative has 'disappointed' time and time again. I just don't think this little stunt has much punch to it - or will have any real impact on Biden's candidacy or campaign. Others will probably disagree.

[padah513]

21. Everybody gets that it's the Primary

The question is how many of these same people will change their minds and then vote for him in the General? Some maybe but I bet a lot won't thanks to Rep. Tlaib's bull-horning power grab.

[PortTack]

39. Yes it is! Just like the point you made key word primary...many don't know the difference or didn't hear it

All they heard was don’t vote for President Biden

[iluvtennis]

19. To what end?? I'm disgusted. n/t

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

20. This is only the first primary in MI this year

There's another, I think it's in August, where we choose which Dem will run for the MI-12 congressional seat.

[Novara]

22. Too late, honey. I already voted Biden.

I truly understand pressuring him regarding Israel's genocidal war in Gaza, I do. But not by risking the U.S. Because if Felonious Fuckface gets his hands on power, America is OVER. We are in an existential crisis.

[IronLionZion]

24. I wouldn't want to be in Biden's position

More Americans are sympathetic to what's happening to the Palestinians now than in most of history. So supporting Netanyahu's war is not a reliable way to win over many in our party. Dems know Trump is going to screw them hard but want to stand on principle against what they feel is an unnecessary and brutal punishment.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

49. Netanyahu didn't start the war

But you know that.

[TexasDem69]

52. So no mention of Hamas?

[Srkdqltr]

28. No honey just no. Biden is your best candidate. Trump is not your friend.

Besides, who else?

[JustAnotherGen]

29. Third post about this

She should go sit down and speak with Netanyahu. That's the person in charge in Israel.

She knows better than everyone else. If she thinks she knows it all - she should share her knowledge with that asshole Netanyahu.

[PortTack]

30. Indeed...sick of her childish shenanigans!

[lapucelle]

34. For some, the goal may be to publicly reject and embarrass President Biden.

From the group organizing the 'vote uncommitted" campaign Listen to Michigan.

What is the history of voting uncommitted?

The Michigan Democratic presidential primary is an important venue to demonstrate a large rejection of President Biden’s backing and financing of the Israeli government’s war in Gaza. In 2008, Obama did not make the ballot in the Michigan primaries but his campaign mobilized young and Black voters to vote “uncommitted” as a symbolic (and real) rejection of Hillary Clinton. It embarrassed Clinton.

https://www.listentomichigan.com/faqs

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Listen to Michigan is sponsored by the dark money group Arab Americans for Progress. Listen to Michigan is seriously wrong on the actual facts concerning the Michigan primary in 2008.

Either the organization is irresponsibly spreading misinformation or it's engaged in a disinformation campaign.

Michigan 2008 Presidential Primary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Michigan_Democratic_presidential_primary

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And, of course, voting "uncommitted" does set up the possibility of divisive antics by potential "Never Biden" delegates chaos agents at our national convention.

What does an “uncommitted” vote mean for the Presidential Primary?

Each party ballot has a vote position for “uncommitted.” When a voter selects “uncommitted”, this indicates the voter is exercising a vote for that political party, but is not committed to any of the candidates listed on the ballot.

If enough voters cast “uncommitted” votes, the party may send delegates to the national nominating convention who are not committed to a specific candidate.

https://www.portagemi.gov/FAQ.aspx?QID=411

[brer cat]

36. Heaven help us if they start that divisive crap at the convention.

Good post, lapucelle.

[stopdiggin]

41. seriously suggesting that Biden will not (handily)

'roll' the Democratic convention and nomination?
Find that - - very difficult to envision

[paleotn]

56. Stranger things have happened.

And since, ya know, Fucking American Democracy is at stake this go around, I don't think we need to be taking chances. Even if we find that difficult to envision. I bet a number of 1930's Germans found it ...very hard to envision...that the Austrian corporal would become Chancellor.

[onetexan]

38. The F is wrong w this loose cannon?

[Pathwalker]

42. NO! Wait...

No just no, but HELL NO!

[jgmiller]

43. She doesn't see the forest for the trees

It's not just her, there are plenty of other liberals that would withhold a vote for Biden because he didn't ban all oil drilling, or try to repeal the 2nd amendment, etc. It's not different that conservatives that withhold a vote because of abortion. They fail to see that the world is filled with shades of grey instead of black and white. AOC was like this at the start but learned quickly.

I think it's very sad for both ends of the political spectrum, you need to understand that there is a greater good and sometimes the greater good doesn't give you what you want most.

[Oopsie Daisy]

45. Disgusting! Absolutely disgusting!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

46. Only 1 member of Congress refused to condemn the sexual violence of Hamas & that was Rashida Tlaib

Link to tweet

[The Third Doctor]

47. Damn. With friends like these?

[BigmanPigman]

48. Shut the fuck up!!!!!

Is she a Dem in name only? She acts like she is not. With reps like this, who needs the GQP to sink Biden?!? She is no friend of the Dems and has proven this many times. If you can't support Dems then change parties or just SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! Who the Hell does she represent besides herself?

Boo hiss

[LetMyPeopleVote]

50. MSNBC calls Tlaib out

Link to tweet

[betsuni]

51. That was great!

[BlueKota]

57. To quote Voltaire

"Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good."

Trump is bad for Palestinians and Israel. He's bad for America. He's poison for the entire freaking world with the exception of his dictator pals.

Even if she thinks, "it's only the primary, it can't hurt to ask people to cast a protest vote against Biden for it," to me I see it as someone who doesn't get the bigger picture. We need to stand united behind our candidate, until his re-election is actually accomplished. This is just my opinion, and people can accuse me of over reacting, but I feel the threat to not only our democracy but our lives, if anything is not being taken as seriously by many as it should be.

[JohnSJ]

58. Typical

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/rep-tlaib-boos-hillary-clinton-s-name-encourages-sanders-supporters-n1128191

[Delphinus]

59. I don't think

this is the wisest choice for her.