Mike Johnson's Wife Takes Down Website That Compared Being Gay To Bestiality, Incest

[riversedge]

Source: huff Post




HuffPost first reported on Kelly Johnson's counseling service that likens LGBTQ+ people to people who have sex with animals and family members.

Jennifer Bendery Oct 30, 2023, 05:45 PM EDT
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HuffPost reported Friday that Kelly Johnson, the wife of the Louisiana Republican and newly elected speaker, is owner and CEO of Onward Christian Counseling Services, which promotes Bible-based pastoral counseling. Her website featured a link to its 2017 operating agreement, which lays out the company’s corporate bylaws ― and states that the business is grounded in the belief that sex is offensive to God if it is not between a man and a woman married to each other.


It specifically puts gay, bisexual and transgender people in the same category as people who have sex with animals or family members, citing all of them as examples of “sexual immorality.”

“We believe and the Bible teaches that any form of sexual immorality, such as adultery, fornication, homosexuality, bisexual conduct, bestiality, incest, pornography or any attempt to change one’s sex, or disagreement with one’s biological sex, is sinful and offensive to God,” reads a passage from the eight-page business document....................

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-johnson-wife-website-homosexuality-bestiality-incest_n_653fd7a9e4b0ae2dc0b49d17

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I read earlier that the Speaker has taken down over 60 of his podcasts also.

Link to tweet

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[AllaN01Bear]

1. snort.

there they go pointing fingers at themselves again. something to hide?

[peppertree]

67. +1

[Ocelot II]

2. Which makes me wonder whether MAGA Mike

has sex either with family members, or with farm animals, or both? I'm sure he has some kinky secret that will come out eventually (has he ever been a youth pastor?); as they say in the South, that boy ain't right.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

46. IF MAGA Mike had sex with any farm animals, I'm sure they were FEMALE farm animals; ...

... 'cause there's nothing *ahem" "odd" about Dear Speaker.

Just kidding. There is plenty "odd" about Dear Speaker.

[Ocelot II]

49. Yeah, *gay* bestiality would be a bridge too far, right?

[erronis]

57. But the Lord said "Two wrongs make a right!"

And disciple Mikey took that to mount the nearest ram.

[Dave Bowman]

64. "disciple Mikey took that to mount the nearest ram"

I heard that in fact he rammed the nearest mount.

[maxsolomon]

3. "Now is not the time for this conversation"

"How dare you attack my deeply held faith."

"Love the sinner, hate the sin."

Et cetera.

[ancianita]

39. lol

Only two she listed -- fornication, adultery -- are in the Bible. The rest are made up sins.

[ShazzieB]

60. "Love the sinner, hate the sin." 🙄

My sister played the "love the sinner, hate the sin" card with me when I tried to explain why her lesbian granddaughter (my great niece) unfriended her on FB and went no contact with her.

Sis had never made any secret of the fact that she considers being gay "sinful," but just couldn't understand why granddaughter cut her off, wailing "But I still love HER!"

I tried to explain that someone's sexuality is part of their identity and when you reject a part of someone's identity, you can't expect them to feel loved or respected by you. She. Did. Not. Get. It.

Her granddaughter still has no contact with her because of her narrow-minded attitude, and I'm pretty sure that's not going to change. Guess who the loser is? (Hint: not granddaughter).

[maxsolomon]

62. Everyone loses with it. Biblical literalism is a plague.

It's not a sin. The bronze-age OT doesn't really address Lesbianism.

[ShazzieB]

65. 100% agree.

[Aussie105]

4. I love these retrospective image cleanups.

Just that the internet has a cast iron memory, nothing is ever actually deleted.

[ancianita]

41. Yep, too late to cancel themselves. It'll get cherry picked all over the nets again in 2024.

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There are 26 captures on the WayBackMachine.

https://web.archive.org/web/20231025232017/https://www.mikeandkellyjohnson.com/

https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://www.mikeandkellyjohnson.com/


"Mike Johnson Once Agreed to Speak at ‘Kill the Gays’ Pastor’s Conference – Until an NCRM Report"

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2023/10/mike-johnson-once-agreed-to-speak-at-kill-the-gays-pastors-conference-until-an-ncrm-report/

[Valdosta]

5. Well OK, but keep in mind ...

This is the religious right position based on what's in Leviticus, not some Mike Johnson family peculiarly.

I'll stop short of saying it's the Republican Party line, but they agree to disagree and are OK with him leading the House.

[Skittles]

8. uh, no

repukes cherry-pick the bible and just use the useful parts to justify their sickening bigotry

there's NOTHING "Christian" about repukes, NOTHING

[bobby202]

17. Very, Very much agreed !

Keep religious beliefs out of politic's ! middle east has been doing this crap for 3000 yrs & still at it !

[Skittles]

35. you got that right

I am SO sick of them, I've been hearing about their beefs my entire life - it's a sickening thing when people hate each other more than they love their kids - they just keep passing the hatred on and on and on.....it never fucking ends.....Holy Land, riiiiiiiiiiight

[BootinUp]

19. +1

[progressoid]

23. To be fair,

liberal Christians often cherry pick the Bible too. They prefer the New Testament nice God rather than the Old Testament wrathful, vengeful, God.

Most liberal Christians ignore that the whole thing is basically sexist and male-centric.

[Skittles]

36. I'm not a fan of ANY religion

I consider it delusion and I wish they'd keep it out of politics; yes INDEED.

[ancianita]

43. That's exactly what Jesus said lol.

[JHB]

56. Of course, theologically, for Christians the Jesus stuff should supercede the OT stuff...

...what with it being a "New Covenant" and all.

[progressoid]

61. Funny story...

A family member, who is also a Republican, was talking about how in their bible study group they had just finished a year study of the Old Testament. Now they would start the new year studying the New Testament. A family friend overheard this and told her, "when you get done, you'll be a Democrat!"

She didn't respond. Either she didn't understand what he was saying or she didn't like what he was saying.

I thought it was funny and laughed.

[paleotn]

20. Yet they eat shellfish, pork and wear mix fiber clothing.

They must have just overlooked those passages in the 5 books of law. One of the neat things about being agnostic, I can eat real NC BBQ without even a tinge of guilt or unease. Bring on the coleslaw, baby!

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

32. Agnostic atheist or agnostic theist?

Agnostic isn't a religious position. It's a knowledge position. You do realize that most atheists are also agnostic...right? Even Richard Dawkins is one.

Really.

Agnosticism also isn't some wishy-washy medium between atheism and theism. You believe in the existence of deities (theism) or you lack that belief (atheism). Just like being pregnant: You can't be halfway pregnant. You are or you aren't. You believe or you don't.

So which one is it?

[TwilightZone]

68. "You believe or you don't. " -- nope.

Plenty of people are open to the possibility that there is a higher power of some kind, but neither fully believe nor fully disbelieve that that power exists or has ever existed.

I find binary assertions like that rather misguided and short-sighted.

[Aussie105]

6. Lots of info here:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/10/mike-johnson-kelly-johnson-onward-christian-counseling-services

Nothing new, just your standard business model used by some Republicans.

1. Take a specific part of the Bible literally.
2. Expand and voice implications.
3. Say how horrible that is and say you are fighting against that.
4. Ask for donations.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

33. How is any of that different from non-political religiosity?

All followers of a supposedly holy book take some part of it literally, expand and voice implications from that, and etc. Even the most benign and liberal believers take some part of the book literally. For instance, even that nice CofE grandma who bakes biscuits for the vicar every Sunday believes that the demigod being a real person is a literal fact, and expands/voices implications from that.

So how is her practice any different from that of the American Taliban traitor thugs?

[Skittles]

7. so his wife is a hateful bigot too

I'm shocked....NOT

[Dave Bowman]

66. Yeah, what a charming couple.

[keithbvadu2]

9. Deeply held religious beliefs can be so easily cast aside

for political expediency.

[Skittles]

10. deeply held delusions

yes indeed

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

34. They're casting aside nothing

They're merely hiding it from view to deflect criticism.

Have no fear: They still believe all those rotten things with every fiber of their worthless beings. Now they get the added bonus of whining to their like cretins that now they're being 'persecuted' for their beliefs, and looking for persecution at every turn is the #1 favorite sport of an astounding number of christians.

[msongs]

11. yet they worship a prostitute loving serial adulterer nt

[patphil]

12. Offensive to God?

How could God be God if the actions of Humanity could offend God?
No, we can offend other people, but not God.
The trouble with Humanity is that too many people have decided what God thinks, and what "offends" God.
Think about it. Angels are sexless beings. They live forever and don't have to reproduce to sustain their species. Down here in 3D we only live a short time and have to continue our species through sexual reproduction.
The concept of homosexual immorality is irrelevant to an Angel, since they see life as continuous.
For them, love is what drives relationships, not sex. If two people of the same sex love each other, it's simply an artifact of 3D life and is of no real consequence in Heaven.
From the point of view of your immortal Angelic existence, it has no basis for being a sin.
The sin is when we treat people badly for being homosexual.
The sin is when people who claim to be Christians condemn and punish people for things that harm no one and are of no consequence outside of 3D life.

[bedazzled]

29. I really like the way you think

Thank you

[patphil]

30. You're welcome.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

38. Well, there is no evidence for angels

And condemning and punishing is at the very core of the chrisitian religion. What do you think hell is, anyway? Worse, that punishment is forever. Do you comprehend how much rage, hate and cruelty it takes to torture someone a few minutes, never mind for an eternity?

Worst of all, the demigod made it perfectly clear that it doesn't matter what you do in this life, really. No matter how good and kind you are, if you don't believe in the demigod and follow his ways, well, it's permanent torture for you. He says it, in big red letters. Do you want me to scrounge up the verses for you?

Because I can.

[Farmer-Rick]

48. You said what I was thinking

I love this little gem she put out there : "Sex is offensive to God...."

They actually believe that.

Sooooo, if their imaginary being is so offended by sex, why did he create it?

I wonder if their super daddy in the sky gets all upset and offended over animals and fish having sex? You got to wonder why they imagine he created sex in the first place if it is so offensive? Their imaginary being really needs to be better thought out.

[patphil]

53. Books written by men with hate in their heart and claimed to be the word of God don't count.

For the most part the Christian bible is the uninspired word of men.
Condemning and punishing as the core of Christianity is a prime example of this.
The sad thing is that so many people believe this.
Jesus taught a path of love, compassion, and forgiveness. Most of that is lost on today's fundamentalists.
Hell is the deliberate, wilful choice to reject God's love. God doesn't condemn anyone to hell. It's their choice to live a loveless life that separates them from God. We have free will, and can choose to fail.
Scrounge up all the verses you want, but you should understand that these are the words that loveless people write. God has nothing to do with it.

[colorado_ufo]

50. Good stuff.

[milestogo]

13. Was she talking about her husband?

[Mawspam2]

14. Morons don't understand that the Internet is forever.

Maybe they should 'Pray the Internet away'.

[tonekat]

15. This guy is from another planet

And shouldn't be telling the residents of this one how to behave.

[SouthernDem4ever]

16. I hope she printed it out

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I would hate for her not to have story time with the children.

[vapor2]

18. Exactly!

[paleotn]

21. If there's anything offensive to God...

it's pasty white people being assholes.

[Marthe48]

22. Are they ashamed?

Do they realize that they are endorsing a stance that isn't popular with most Americans? Did they take the site down because they understand that while their nasty outlook is okay in Bibletown, it won't forward maga mike's political career? Does his wife want him on the (formerly) supreme court? Maybe kelly knows ginny thomas.

[Aussie105]

24. Just dumped that business model

because a better one came along.

The real reason why he is speaker though, is that he comes across as a blank slate or empty vessel onto which Republicans can imprint their political desires and expect him to carry them out.

Like Trump, really.
How did that work out?

[Irish_Dem]

25. So the wife is obsessed with all kinds of sexual acts just like her husband.

And accusing others of perversion if they don't measure up to her sexual standards.

Then in public her husband makes her a laughing stock by talking about her sore knees.

Something really wrong with this couple.

[azureblue]

28. except for Trump

“We believe and the Bible teaches that any form of sexual immorality, such as adultery, fornication,--"
And not a word condemning the child molester, perv, pussy grabbing, adulterer Trump.
So typical of these oh so moral types..

[Zambero]

37. It must be the Ordination Escape Clause?

As the Justice Dept won't indict a sitting president named Trump, God won't smite or hold to account a lustful predatory rapist of that name who has been chosen by him to do wonderful stuff.

[EndlessWire]

40. Oh yeah!

I forgot about those knees! I wondered about that...

[not fooled]

26. OK, but this is all OK because the way our system of gov't works

is that people vote for government and therefore get the government that reflects what they want. So, loony fake xtian views are what people want because the guy got elected.

That's per my dumbass maggot neighbor. I asked whether he had ever heard of minoritarian rule, gerrymandering, voter "suppression", voter purges, etc. etc. etc. Troll farms? Bots posting to social media? The answer was, of course, no. The guy is catastrophically ignorant, yet supremely confident that he's 100% right about everything, and that life was PERFECT under red don.

This is the level of ignorance and dumbassery we are dealing with, and why I'm now convinced this country will turn fascist, and why I'm already regretting recently buying a house in the U.S. instead of moving abroad, which was my original plan.

[bedazzled]

31. Tell your neighbor that he was never elected

The district he ran in is so gettymandered he had no opponent

[OAITW r.2.0]

27. Why would she do that?

Doesn't she and her husband stand by their claims? You hide when you can't defend,

[dlk]

42. Something to hide...

n/t

[Permanut]

44. I'm afraid there's some smitin' and rebukin'..

in store for these two

On the bright side, they'll get to spend eternity with Oral Roberts, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson

[Oopsie Daisy]

45. He has some skeletons in his closet.

They always do. It's just a matter of time.

[Javaman]

47. and so begins the wallpapering of their "image" nt

[dchill]

51. Going into Stealth Mode.

It's a shame to have to compromise your principles, I guess. But they're all over it! Now where's that airbrush/sandblaster?

[cayugafalls]

52. Courtesy of Wayback Machine...The aforementioned website.

http://web.archive.org/web/20230124052926/https://www.onwardchristiancounseling.org/

[barbtries]

54. sex obsessed freaks.

they're disgusting.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

55. These two RWNJs are scary

Mike Johnson and his wife are RWNJs who are scary

I am predicting that the podcasts from these RWNJs will be showing up in various ads if Johnson lasts until the 2024 election cycle

Link to tweet

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-johnson-wife-website-homosexuality-bestiality-incest_n_653fd7a9e4b0ae2dc0b49d17

House Speaker Mike Johnson’s wife took down the website for her company, Onward Christian Counseling Services, a day after HuffPost pointed to documents on the site that compared homosexuality to bestiality and incest.

HuffPost reported Friday that Kelly Johnson, the wife of the Louisiana Republican and newly elected speaker, is owner and CEO of Onward Christian Counseling Services, which promotes Bible-based pastoral counseling. Her website featured a link to its 2017 operating agreement, which lays out the company’s corporate bylaws ― and states that the business is grounded in the belief that sex is offensive to God if it is not between a man and a woman married to each other.

It specifically puts gay, bisexual and transgender people in the same category as people who have sex with animals or family members, citing all of them as examples of “sexual immorality.”.....

The new House speaker and his wife have long worked together in their political and business lives. In the early 1990s, they were the face of Louisiana’s new marriage covenant law when they went on national television to endorse it. In the past couple of years, they have co-hosted a podcast called “Truth Be Told,” where they discuss politics and social issues from a conservative Christian perspective. They’ve done 69 episodes so far.

[ShepKat]

58. LOL i guess they don't know what the internet wayback machine is for

nothing dies online- but it does get archived

[Bundbuster]

59. See my John Smoltz gay bestiality thread from 2 days ago

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218409136

“What’s next, marrying an animal?”

[Kennah]

63. Mike, Kelly, they're not the same. But if it's a consenting horse ...

[SleeplessinSoCal]

69. HBO's The Gilded Age has an interesting plotline re: gay character.

In 1882 he wouldn't have been identified as "gay". But he has/d a lover and still needs/wants to marry into a wealthy family via a very young girl whi has just "come out" in the traditional sense. The ball was beyond extravagant for her coming out party. But, I feel for her if she marries him. A world of hurt because of societal norms and rules.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-true-history-behind-hbos-the-gilded-age-180979415/

[CoopersDad]

70. Here is their website:

Thanks to Archive.org. Be sure to donate to keep the archive going!

https://web.archive.org/web/20231026172225/https://www.onwardchristiancounseling.org/

[Evolve Dammit]

71. Jeebus, Ginni Thomas has another worst spouse contestant to vie for the title of most deplorable

[Danascot]

72. There ought to be a law

saying that no law can be made that cites the bible as it's authority. If creepy Mike and his bonkers wife want to be governed by it, including stuff they made up that isn't in the bible, so be it. They have no right to impose their nonsensical beliefs on the rest of us.

This is #247 of the obvious that I can't believe I would ever need to state out loud.