Jordan won't seek third speaker vote, backs plan to empower interim speaker

[TeamProg]

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Source: WaPo

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) will not seek an additional speaker vote Thursday, and he will back a plan to give Rep. Patrick T. McHenry (R-N.C.), the temporary speaker, additional powers, according to multiple people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the situation. After two rounds of votes, a group of Republicans had made it clear that Jordan did not have enough support to win the speaker’s gavel. With House functions at a standstill, lawmakers can now consider a proposal to expand McHenry’s powers.

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Chaos..

[LoveMyCali]

1. I say no

To expanding his powers. Do we really want this guy to be second in line for the presidency? If they want him in the position so bad nominate him.

[TeamProg]

2. Patrick Henry is the current interim speaker. So Henry would be given the extra powers, not Gym. nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. Interim Speakers (McHenry) are not in line. Even if they are given extra powers, they are not Speaker, so not in line. Sen Prez pro tem next in line. . nt

[magicarpet]

3. Why can't they vote trDump to be the next Speaker of the House ?

Let the whole government slither down into the sewers. Burn it all to the ground,... fuck American Democracy.

[yankee87]

4. Sarcasm indeed

45 would burn the country down to save himself

[magicarpet]

5. Incidentally anyone know where the "Check Spelling',...

..... bar can be found ? Was at the very end,...
1.) Check spelling...
2.) Preview [post]....
3.) Post comment.

Can not find the "Check Spelling" mode anywhere on the new DU4 site.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. Just below Reply text box, labelled "Check spelling" before the button "Show errors", above Posting tips, above Preview. . . . nt

[maxsolomon]

6. Just elect him Speaker then.

I see no evidence he'd be worse than any other Repuke.

[deurbano]

7. From Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-inside-story-of-how-jim-jordan-broke-the-model-didnt-become-speaker-and-decided-that-was-fine

The congressional party is controlled and run by the hard right minority variously called the Tea Party or Freedom Caucus. But they are a bit too hot for national public consumption. They also rely on the idea that their far right policy agenda has broad public support but is held back by a corrupt/bureaucratic establishment. For both of these reasons a system was developed in which this far right group runs the caucus, but from the background, while it is nominally run by a mainstreamish Republican leader. Under John Boehner, Paul Ryan or Kevin McCarthy this basic dynamic remained more or less the same. It works for everybody because the Freedom Party calls the shots while the party maintains broad electoral viability via figureheadish leadership…

...By trying for the Speakership, Jordan was breaking with this model. That’s probably the best way to understand the ensuing breakdown. Just as I was writing this post, Jordan finally decided not to hold a third vote, in which he was certainly going to lose even more votes. He’ll get behind the effort to add powers to the portfolio of Speaker pro tem Patrick McHenry through the end of the calendar year.

Jordan didn’t come up with this idea. Others did and they’ve been begging them to take it for at least 48 hours. But it’s a very smart move for Jordan (which is itself pretty stunning and raises its own questions.) It accomplishes several key things. 1) He gets to stop embarrassing himself by holding vote after vote and losing more votes each time. 2) He gets to say he never lost. It’s just a delay. 3) It blocks everyone else out. What wraps one, two and three together is 4) He remains Speaker designee. The GOP caucus voted for its choice for Speaker and that guy is Jim Jordan. There’s not going to be another caucus Speaker election, at least not until January and for Jordan hopefully never. In this alternative reality, Jordan was chosen to be Speaker. It’s done. They just haven’t had the election on the floor to finalize it. In a basic sense he already is Speaker. He’s been running the caucus since late last week. He’s choosing when there’s going to be a vote or not going to be a vote.

In practice this creates an entirely novel parliamentary leadership structure. The majority has a whip, a majority leader and a Speaker designee, Jim Jordan. Then there’s a largely ministerial medium-term, super-sized but not quite full sized Speaker pro tem, Patrick McHenry, who presumably will take his cues from the head of the caucus, Jim Jordan. It really amounts to not having a Speaker for the next three months and the GOP caucus passing a rule deciding that that’s fine. Think of Jordan as viable late-term Speaker fetus, who’s just about ready to go but can’t manage to be born, at least not yet. That can totally work for him, perhaps indefinitely, if he’s really able to call the shots from the womb.

[magicarpet]

11. So Gym is an abortion of sorts ?

A dead baby that can not be evicted from the womb. Talk about someone over extending their stay and stinking up the place.

How do his constituents back home in Ohio keep sending this white trash back to Washington DC ?

[Paper Roses]

10. All part of the plan......

Jordan backs out of 3RD round to keep Jeffries from being speaker. He has the option of trying again in a couple of months. In the meantime we will have the interim speaker to keep Jordan's options open and keep Jeffries from becoming speaker. Jordan will be back again...I believe it is within 3 months and this whole boondoggle will start again.

Can you tell I'm disgusted?

[Omaha Steve]

12. After a review by forum hosts, locking........

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