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speak easy

(9,442 posts)
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 05:05 PM Jul 2023

Trump Crushing DeSantis and G.O.P. Rivals, Times/Siena Poll Finds

Last edited Mon Jul 31, 2023, 05:39 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: New York Times

Former President Donald J. Trump is dominating his rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, leading his nearest challenger, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, by a landslide 37 percentage points nationally among the likely Republican primary electorate, according to the first New York Times/Siena College poll of the 2024 campaign.

Mr. Trump held decisive advantages across almost every demographic group and region and in every ideological wing of the party, the survey found, as Republican voters waved away concerns about his escalating legal jeopardy. He led by wide margins among men and women, younger and older voters, moderates and conservatives, those who went to college and those who didn’t, and in cities, suburbs and rural areas.

The poll shows that some of Mr. DeSantis’s central campaign arguments — that he is more electable than Mr. Trump, and that he would govern more effectively — have so far failed to break through. Even Republicans motivated by the type of issues that have fueled Mr. DeSantis’s rise, such as fighting “radical woke ideology,” favored the former president.

Overall, Mr. Trump led Mr. DeSantis 54 percent to 17 percent. No other candidate topped 3 percent support in the poll.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/31/us/politics/2024-poll-nyt-siena-trump-republicans.html



"No other candidate topped 3 percent support"
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Trump Crushing DeSantis and G.O.P. Rivals, Times/Siena Poll Finds (Original Post) speak easy Jul 2023 OP
As the trump party rallies behind a sure loser. mwb970 Jul 2023 #1
Me to my wife in 2016: "There's no way in HELL trump will beat Hillary" groundloop Jul 2023 #8
Anyone running against Trump for the GOP nomination Mr.Bill Jul 2023 #2
By poisoning if need be peppertree Jul 2023 #3
But the REAL question is............... MyOwnPeace Jul 2023 #4
If You've Constantly Been Bombarded with BS modrepub Jul 2023 #6
This demonstrates without a doubt that the base of the Republican Party consists of racists, bigots, JohnSJ Jul 2023 #5
CORRECT Skittles Jul 2023 #7
Yep..... at least prior to 45* most of those racist bigots stayed hidden beneath their rocks groundloop Jul 2023 #10
honestly, it was the election of Obama Skittles Jul 2023 #11
'LOUD AND PROUD' speak easy Jul 2023 #12
Racism being #1 imho n/t hibbing Jul 2023 #9
The Only Way Trump Won't Be A Candidate in the Fall of 2024 Vogon_Glory Jul 2023 #13
A very said reflection on the Repuglican Party SouthernDem4ever Jul 2023 #14
the best con men leave their victims unaware they've been fleeced. ZonkerHarris Jul 2023 #15
Dumb and dumber. republianmushroom Jul 2023 #16
So, over 40 million registered voters are all in on a criminal, insurrectionist traitor? LudwigPastorius Jul 2023 #17
he is a mirror of their family values nt msongs Jul 2023 #18
he's crushing his republican opponents in the % of traitors, criminals and imbeciles that are in the samsingh Jul 2023 #19
Biden beat his ass the first time truthisfreedom Aug 2023 #20
Nothing Beats The Babbler czarjak Aug 2023 #21
Priming the pump to hear Trump say "How could I have lost? The polls showed the greatest lead of twodogsbarking Aug 2023 #22
Do r's realize there are many other r's to pick for their candidates? Marthe48 Aug 2023 #23

groundloop

(11,624 posts)
8. Me to my wife in 2016: "There's no way in HELL trump will beat Hillary"
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 05:54 PM
Jul 2023

Granted, Hillary had nearly 3 million more votes nationwide than trump, but thanks to our fucked up system of electing a President he slithered into the White House. I'm extremely leery of ever predicting his downfall again, we simply can't take his defeat for granted. Hopefully he'll be a convicted felon and behind bars next November, but I'll believe it when I see it.

And I'll add to my rant - what a sorry statement about those who call themselves republicans.

Mr.Bill

(24,438 posts)
2. Anyone running against Trump for the GOP nomination
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 05:16 PM
Jul 2023

are likely banking on the idea that Trump will drop dead in the next year.

peppertree

(22,085 posts)
3. By poisoning if need be
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 05:23 PM
Jul 2023

Somewhere, in some smoke-filled room, Republican bigwigs are actively discussing the feasibility of a "Wayne Morse" solution to their Trump problems.

Or a George Wallace one.

I ga'ontee.

modrepub

(3,523 posts)
6. If You've Constantly Been Bombarded with BS
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 05:50 PM
Jul 2023

that some horrible democrat in some far off city (that you've never met or seen in your life) is responsible for all of your problems, it's a hell of a lot easier just to go with that explanation than try and figure out what's really going on.

JohnSJ

(92,758 posts)
5. This demonstrates without a doubt that the base of the Republican Party consists of racists, bigots,
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 05:45 PM
Jul 2023

sexists, and insurrectionists

groundloop

(11,624 posts)
10. Yep..... at least prior to 45* most of those racist bigots stayed hidden beneath their rocks
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 05:57 PM
Jul 2023

45* made it ok to openly be a racist homophobic bigot.

Skittles

(153,936 posts)
11. honestly, it was the election of Obama
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 05:59 PM
Jul 2023

it made the racists and bigots emerge from under their rocks, and Trump became their leader and made them LOUD AND PROUD

Vogon_Glory

(9,169 posts)
13. The Only Way Trump Won't Be A Candidate in the Fall of 2024
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 06:27 PM
Jul 2023

--even if he's in prison--is if he achieves room temperature before then. Club Pachyderm is stuck with him as their candidate.

--XXX--

The end of American (US) Exceptionalism. Another sign:


Come the autumn of 2024, Donald John Trumo, beloved candidate of racists and xenophobes, will join the ranks of those other presidential candidates who ran for office from prison or from threat of prison, such as Hugo Chavez, no less than seven Peruvian Presidents, one Argentine vice-president, at least one Bolivian president, at least one Panamanian president, and others I certainly missed.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,618 posts)
14. A very said reflection on the Repuglican Party
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 06:29 PM
Jul 2023

They don't have the common sense, morals or ethics to govern. They are sickening.

LudwigPastorius

(9,500 posts)
17. So, over 40 million registered voters are all in on a criminal, insurrectionist traitor?
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 10:40 PM
Jul 2023

I bet the founding fathers never had that one on their bingo cards.

samsingh

(17,624 posts)
19. he's crushing his republican opponents in the % of traitors, criminals and imbeciles that are in the
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 11:53 PM
Jul 2023

republican party

truthisfreedom

(23,203 posts)
20. Biden beat his ass the first time
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 07:58 AM
Aug 2023

He’s the asshole to go up against this time, with the economy on the rise.

I live in a rural community and the people who voted for him last time are split this time.

twodogsbarking

(10,334 posts)
22. Priming the pump to hear Trump say "How could I have lost? The polls showed the greatest lead of
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 09:48 AM
Aug 2023

anyove ever. *Stollen election."

Trump spelllling.

Marthe48

(17,459 posts)
23. Do r's realize there are many other r's to pick for their candidates?
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 09:23 AM
Aug 2023

Rather than the current crop of lying, slimy p.o.s.? Surely to God, there are some less crooked p.o.s. r's willing to run for public office who don't stink as much, and might capture the teeny little brains, and fill the dark hole where other humans have hearts enough to let traitor wend his way to prison.

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