Chinese passenger jet to make inaugural commercial flight Sunday

[jgo]

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Source: UPI

The first large passenger jet domestically-produced in China, is set to make its inaugural commercial flight this weekend.

China Eastern Airlines is expected to fly the narrow-body Comac C919 plane from Shanghai to Beijing Sunday afternoon on what is the busiest domestic route in the country.

The company updated its schedule to reflect the aircraft being assigned to the route and said it will use a lottery system to award seats to those who applied for tickets.

Sunday's flight will mark the culmination of years of research and development by the state-run Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China, Ltd. The plane's first test flight took place almost exactly six years ago as China looks to compete with Boeing and Airbus in the commercial aviation space.


Read more: https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2023/05/26/commercial-jet-debut-shanghai-beijing/2861685113777/

[rsdsharp]

1. Maybe yes, maybe no.

CAAC used to stand for China Air Always Cancels.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

2. After you!

I've had nothing but good experiences with China Air. Never flown China Eastern.

[C Moon]

3. I hope Musk wasn't involved.

[xocetaceans]

4. "...years of research and development by Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China, Ltd." -- LOL!!

That part of the sentence seems like it probably should be adjusted to read "...years of hacking and intellectual property theft by China...." The following article has a truly nice graphic that shows from whom China stole to get various systems for "their" C919.

Home / Tech / Security

Building China's Comac C919 airplane involved a lot of hacking, report says

One of China's most brazen hacking sprees involved intelligence officers, hackers, security researchers, and company insiders.
Written by Catalin Cimpanu, Contributor on Oct. 14, 2019


A report published today shines a light on one of China's most ambitious hacking operations known to date, one that involved Ministry of State Security officers, the country's underground hacking scene, legitimate security researchers, and insiders at companies all over the world.

The aim of this hacking operation was to acquire intellectual property to narrow China's technological gap in the aviation industry, and especially to help Comac, a Chinese state-owned aerospace manufacturer, build its own airliner, the C919 airplane, to compete with industry rivals like Airbus and Boeing.

A Crowdstrike report published today shows how this coordinated multi-year hacking campaign systematically went after the foreign companies that supplied components for the C919 airplane.

The end goal, Crowdstrike claims, was to acquire the needed intellectual property to manufacture all of the C919's components inside China.

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https://www.zdnet.com/article/building-chinas-comac-c919-airplane-involved-a-lot-of-hacking-report-says/

[Major Nikon]

6. It's basically a clone of the Airbus A320

Produced with stolen tech. So essentially the Chinese managed to steal enough intellectual property that they were able to produce a 30 year old aircraft design at a cost similar to producing the Airbus A320. I just don't see anyone other than Chinese airlines using them, although Russia might be interested if they ever recover from the financial disaster Putin created.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

7. Yeah, Chinese folks have to steal everything from the West!? Nonsense..also their spacecraft?

Also all their EV companies? All the technology and amazing array of consumer goods?

China makes what the World wants to buy, isn’t that obvious?

Not just the former colonialists or white folk know stuff.

Mostly it’s all western corporate jealously and western military angst.

[xocetaceans]

9. I suppose that you did not even read the supporting article.

Yes, the Chinese hacked and stole quite a lot to make "their" airplane. (Why you would choose to paint it otherwise is a bit weird to put it mildly.)

So, yes, if one counts theft as "research", then the Chinese did superior "research". Does that statement satisfy your need to recharacterize things - if you get it?

Also, Chinese spacecraft of late also seem commonly to end up dangerously falling back to Earth in an uncontrolled manner - like their recent spy ( however, you might want to read the word "research" for "spy" ) balloon did, but not because they had been shot down. Instead, they fall back to Earth dangerously, because the Chinese cannot be bothered to care about where their lower stages crash or develop the engineering to take care of the problem - if they can. Let them put their money and engineering technology where you mouth is and I'll adjust my statements as necessary as the data comes in, but not until then.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

5. Bzzt, bzzt, Autopilot taking over, flying you to Guangdong. All your plane are belong to us. . . nt

[paleotn]

8. Flying on GE / Safran LEAP engines...

and a lot of help from the west, specifically Bombardier. Will be interesting to see how this competes with the Airbus A320neo and Boeing 737 MAX (post software glitch.)

[Omaha Steve]

10. After a review by forum hosts, locking........

Hosts feel this belongs in GD.

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