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Kennah

(14,407 posts)
Mon May 22, 2023, 11:40 AM May 2023

Putin Defectors Say They've Seized Belgorod Towns, Vow to 'Liberate Russia'

Source: Newsweek

Russian fighters serving in the Ukrainian Armed Forces say they have seized settlements in the Belgorod region, located near to the Ukrainian border.

The Freedom of Russia Legion—formed weeks after Russia's invasion of Ukraine began in February 2022—aims "to liberate Russia from Putinism," Ilya Ponomarev, an exiled Russian politician, who says he is political representative for the group of fighters, told Newsweek on Monday of the latest developments.

The Legion was declared a terrorist organization by Russia's Supreme Court in March. The group claimed on its social media channels on Monday that it had, alongside the Russian Volunteer Corps (RVC), "completely liberated" the settlement of Kozinka in Belgorod, and that its units had entered Graivoron.

Ponomarev, who was the only member of the Russian parliament to vote against Moscow's annexation of Crimea in 2014, told Newsweek that the legion and RVC had "liberated" both Kozinka and Graivoron.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/putin-defectors-freedom-russia-legion-ukraine-belgorod-war-1801786



Terrorist organization designation by the Russian Supreme Court is among the highest honors bestowed on forces fighting Putin.
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Putin Defectors Say They've Seized Belgorod Towns, Vow to 'Liberate Russia' (Original Post) Kennah May 2023 OP
K&R...... Lovie777 May 2023 #1
KNR niyad May 2023 #2
To be clear: They've liberated Russian territory? This is where this whole thing goes critical mass marble falls May 2023 #3
Russian held territory FredGarvin May 2023 #6
Russian held Ukraine or Russia. Maps and explanations would've been helpful in the article. marble falls May 2023 #8
A Newsweek article FredGarvin May 2023 #9
Welcome to DU orangecrush May 2023 #10
My understanding is that this is Russian territory Renew Deal May 2023 #11
I tried looking the area up but found nothing. Thanks. marble falls May 2023 #12
Use Google its on the internet. FredGarvin May 2023 #14
What I found ... SomewhereInTheMiddle May 2023 #16
Per wikipedia KS Toronado May 2023 #19
Newsweek is the only one reporting it as if they took Russian territory IronLionZion May 2023 #17
They seem to make clear it's Russians in Russia Kennah May 2023 #20
Interesting phrase "seem to make clear." The Russians seem to feel Bakmud is Russian territory. marble falls May 2023 #22
Well, I don't believe there's been a roster published of who went on the operation Kennah May 2023 #23
Freedom of Russia Legion is TDF AFU Kennah May 2023 #21
"Grain of salt", "fog of war" and all that but Leghorn21 May 2023 #4
Russian regional governor says Ukrainian 'sabotage group' crossed border Botany May 2023 #5
Pro-Russian forces that are behind this attack FredGarvin May 2023 #7
Most likely it was Russian citizens who are sympathetic to Ukraine IronLionZion May 2023 #18
I wish them good luck SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #13
And God speed BonnieJW May 2023 #15

marble falls

(58,793 posts)
3. To be clear: They've liberated Russian territory? This is where this whole thing goes critical mass
Mon May 22, 2023, 12:07 PM
May 2023

... I hope there are no Ukrainians directly involved.

FredGarvin

(503 posts)
9. A Newsweek article
Mon May 22, 2023, 12:45 PM
May 2023

Always garbage.

Newsweek has become a conglomeration of AI selected social media posts.

A far cry from its print days

16. What I found ...
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:15 PM
May 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgorod

Belgorod is a city and the administrative center of Belgorod Oblast, Russia, located on the Seversky Donets River, approximately 40 kilometers (25 mi) north of the border with Ukraine.

I was confused by the article as well. Mentioning the country Belgorod was in would have been useful.

KS Toronado

(17,890 posts)
19. Per wikipedia
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:42 PM
May 2023

Not that big of a Russian town

Kozinka (Russian: Козинка is a rural locality (a selo) and the administrative center of Kozinskoye Rural Settlement, Grayvoronsky District, Belgorod Oblast, Russia. The population was 1,097 as of 2010

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kozinka,_Belgorod_Oblast


Grayvoron is a little larger

Grayvoron (Russian: Гра́йворон is a town and the administrative center of Grayvoronsky District in Belgorod Oblast, Russia, located on the shores of the Vorskla (a tributary of the Dnieper) and Grayvoronka Rivers. Population: 6.179? 2021 Census);[9] 6,234? 2010 Census)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grayvoron


Don't know how the smiley faces got in there.

IronLionZion

(45,895 posts)
17. Newsweek is the only one reporting it as if they took Russian territory
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:30 PM
May 2023

all other news outlets are reporting it as Russian saboteurs damaging targets in Russian territory near the border with Ukraine.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/22/europe/belgorod-ukrainian-forces-russian-territory-intl/index.html

For folks who don't know, Belgorod is in Russia. The people there are somewhat sympathetic to Ukraine and opposed to the war.

Kennah

(14,407 posts)
21. Freedom of Russia Legion is TDF AFU
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:20 PM
May 2023

So long as it's Russians in Russia, then Russia can look at it as domestic terrorists. If there are Canadians with them, then Pooty Bear will start rattling his rattle. Ukrainian Special Forces have been operating in Russia.

Botany

(70,916 posts)
5. Russian regional governor says Ukrainian 'sabotage group' crossed border
Mon May 22, 2023, 12:08 PM
May 2023

"The governor of Russia's Belgorod region said on Monday that a Ukrainian 'sabotage group' had
entered Russian territory in the Graivoron district bordering Ukraine, and was being repelled by
Russian forces."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-regional-governor-says-ukrainian-sabotage-group-crossed-border/ar-AA1bwTH1

IronLionZion

(45,895 posts)
18. Most likely it was Russian citizens who are sympathetic to Ukraine
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:32 PM
May 2023

rather than anyone crossing the border.

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