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BumRushDaShow

(130,113 posts)
Mon May 8, 2023, 12:01 PM May 2023

Driver in deadly Texas crash charged with manslaughter

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Source: AP

BROWNSVILLE, Texas (AP) — The driver of an SUV that killed eight people when it slammed into a bus stop in Brownsville, Texas, has been charged with manslaughter, police said Monday as investigators tried to determine if the crash was intentional.

Authorities believe driver George Alvarez, 34, of Brownsville, lost control after running a red light Sunday morning, and plowed into a crowd outside a migrant center.

Police Chief Felix Sauceda said Alvarez was charged with eight counts of manslaughter and 10 counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Officials are awaiting toxicology reports to determine whether Alvarez was intoxicated, Sauceda said, adding that there was no motive that he could discuss. Asked about reports from witnesses that Alvarez was cursing at them, Sauceda said there was nothing to confirm that yet.

The SUV ran a red light, lost control, flipped on its side and struck 18 people, Sauceda said at a news conference Monday morning. Six people died on the scene and 12 people were critically injured, he said. Officials have said the death toll rose later. Alvarez tried to flee, but was held down by several people on the scene, he said. His bail was set at $3.6 million.

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BROWNSVILLE, Texas (AP) -- The driver of an SUV that killed eight people when it slammed into a bus stop in Brownsville, Texas has been charged with manslaughter, police said Monday as investigators tried to determine if the crash was intentional. Authorities believe driver George Alvarez, 34, of Brownsville, lost control after running a red light Sunday morning and plowed into a crowd of Venezuelans outside a migrant center.

Police Chief Chief Felix Sauceda said Alvarez was charged with eight counts of manslaughter and 10 counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Officials are awaiting toxicology reports to determine whether Alvarez was intoxicated, Sauceda said, adding that there was no motive that he could discuss.

The SUV ran a red light, lost control, flipped on its side and struck 18 people, Sauceda said at a news conference Monday morning. Six people died on the scene and 12 people were critically injured, he said. Officials have said the death toll later rose to eight. Alvarez tried to flee, but was held down by several people on the scene, he said. His bail was set at $3.6 million.

Victims struck by the vehicle were waiting for the bus to return to downtown Brownsville after spending the night at the overnight shelter, said Sister Norma Pimentel, executive director of Catholic Charities of the Rio Grande Valley.



BROWNSVILLE, Texas (AP) -- The driver of an SUV that crashed into a crowd of people at a bus stop in Brownsville, Texas, killing eight, has been charged with manslaughter, police said Monday. Authorities believe driver George Alvarez, 34, of Brownsville, lost control after running a red light Sunday morning and plowed into a crowd of Venezuelans outside a migrant center. Authorities were still investigating whether the crash was intentional.

Police Chief Chief Felix Sauceda said Alvarez was charged with eight counts of manslaughter and 10 counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Alvarez received bonds totalling $3.6 million. Officials are awaiting toxicology reports to determine whether Alvarez was intoxicated, Sauceda said.

The SUV ran a red light, lost control, flipped on its side and struck 18 people, Sauceda said at a news conference Monday morning. Six people died on the scene and 12 people were critically injured, he said. Officials have said the death toll later rose to eight.

Alvarez tried to flee, but was held down by several people on the scene, he said. Victims struck by the vehicle were waiting for the bus to return to downtown Brownsville after spending the night at the overnight shelter, said Sister Norma Pimentel, executive director of Catholic Charities of the Rio Grande Valley.



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BROWNSVILLE, Texas (AP) -- The driver in a deadly crash that killed 8 people in Brownsville, Texas, has been charged with manslaughter, police said Monday. Authorities believe driver George Alvarez, 34, lost control after running a red light Sunday morning and plowed into a crowd of Venezuelans outside a migrant center. The police chief said Alvarez was charged with eight counts of manslaughter and 10 counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

Shelter director Victor Maldonado said the SUV ran up the curb, flipped and continued moving for about 200 feet (60 meters). Some people walking on the sidewalk about 30 feet (9 meters) from the main group were also hit, Maldonado said. Witnesses detained the driver as he tried to run away and held him until police arrived, he said.

Before the collision, the Range Rover ran a traffic light about 100 feet (30 meters) away, said Maldonado, who reviewed the shelter's surveillance video. Victims struck by the vehicle were waiting for the bus to return to downtown Brownsville after spending the night at the overnight shelter, said Sister Norma Pimentel, executive director of Catholic Charities of the Rio Grande Valley.

Most of the victims were Venezuelan men, Maldonado said. Brownsville has seen a surge of Venezuelan migrants over the last two weeks for unclear reasons, authorities said. On Thursday, 4,000 of about 6,000 migrants in Border Patrol custody in Texas' Rio Grande Valley were Venezuelan.
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Driver in deadly Texas crash charged with manslaughter (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2023 OP
"Authorities believe driver George Alvarez, 34, lost control after running a red light ..." mahatmakanejeeves May 2023 #1
I suppose a DUI might "help" in that case BumRushDaShow May 2023 #2
Running a red light is intentional obamanut2012 May 2023 #6
Disregarding a traffic signal. That's a far cry from homicide. NT mahatmakanejeeves May 2023 #8
Not always. Igel May 2023 #15
Let me translate for you... regnaD kciN May 2023 #18
Inless you don't believe what he was shouting at the migrants. Historic NY May 2023 #3
Wow, this is just horrible. Fingers crossed these victims get justice. n/t iluvtennis May 2023 #4
I think the people were waiting in an area that was kinda LeftInTX May 2023 #11
Probably not intentional but 8 people are still dead because of him Warpy May 2023 #5
How is running a red light not intentional??? obamanut2012 May 2023 #7
Fussing with cigarettes or a cell phone or cup of coffee Warpy May 2023 #9
I've Run Red Lights RobinA May 2023 #12
Raises hand. NT mahatmakanejeeves May 2023 #14
It's not always intentional ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #13
Depends how it's run. Igel May 2023 #16
As an aside, what you're saying Igel May 2023 #17
should be murder. barbtries May 2023 #10
They would have to prove that it was intentional for that XorXor May 2023 #19

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,768 posts)
1. "Authorities believe driver George Alvarez, 34, lost control after running a red light ..."
Mon May 8, 2023, 12:04 PM
May 2023
Authorities believe driver George Alvarez, 34, lost control after running a red light Sunday morning ...

So, not intentional?

BumRushDaShow

(130,113 posts)
2. I suppose a DUI might "help" in that case
Mon May 8, 2023, 12:15 PM
May 2023

but will have to see. It was a Sunday morning and he was apparently going somewhere "fast".

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
18. Let me translate for you...
Mon May 8, 2023, 10:50 PM
May 2023

"Yes, we have evidence that he's an immigrant-hating wingnut, but we can't have two straight massacres carried out by right-wing extremists within two days here in Texas, so we'll just claim it was alcohol or 'mental illness'."

Historic NY

(37,462 posts)
3. Inless you don't believe what he was shouting at the migrants.
Mon May 8, 2023, 12:38 PM
May 2023

[link:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/brownsville-texas-car-crash-video-latest-b2334655.html|]

[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/07/brownsville-texas-car-crash-deaths/|]

“He crossed the street and he hit the gas and he drove by my legs, and hurt my arm,” he said in Spanish. “The others, he killed almost all of them.”

He recalled the driver yelling: “You’re invading my property!”

LeftInTX

(25,817 posts)
11. I think the people were waiting in an area that was kinda
Mon May 8, 2023, 02:37 PM
May 2023

In the street.

The bus stop was kinda weird and there wasn't a good waiting area.

Was he targeting them because they were immigrants?
Was he targeting them because they were annoying people on the street?
Was he drunk?

Warpy

(111,475 posts)
5. Probably not intentional but 8 people are still dead because of him
Mon May 8, 2023, 01:14 PM
May 2023

That really high bail is appropriate. Range Rovers aren't cheap, even used. New, they're $100,000+. The guy likely has money.


Warpy

(111,475 posts)
9. Fussing with cigarettes or a cell phone or cup of coffee
Mon May 8, 2023, 01:55 PM
May 2023

and late for work would do it.

Until we make cars that stop automatically for stop signs and red lights, this will happen. It usually results in honking and raised fists and middle fingers. This time, it was tragic.

That's if the tox screen is negative. It might not be.

The cops didn't think it was intentional, it's why he's charged with manslaughter instead of murder.

RobinA

(9,911 posts)
12. I've Run Red Lights
Mon May 8, 2023, 03:47 PM
May 2023

twice in my life. I'm 65. Neither one was intentional, they were brain farts. The second one the guy in front of me made a right on red, which my brain read as that guy is moving, the light must be green. The other one I stared right at the light but didn't read it at all, just kept going. Neither time was I impaired in any way except for my brain taking a nap when it shouldn't have been.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
13. It's not always intentional
Mon May 8, 2023, 04:09 PM
May 2023

Back in the 60s, my mother had a Karmann Ghia convertible. She also never went anywhere without some kind of hairpiece attached to her head. You can imagine the disaster math that results from convertible + fake hair attachment.

So there we were motoring just into the city, and her hairpiece got loose and fell in front of her face, barely attached and flopping around like a dead otter on a string. She freaked out and didn't notice--Mum--the light--Mum--MUM THE LIGHT!

She ran it while trying to get the hairpiece off her face. She hates it when I tell that story, but I love it! Even though, yes, it was rather terrifying at the time to have all those horns and screeching brakes serenading us.

I was also in the car when an uncle saw my brother playing with a Zippo in the back seat. Uncle Joe got focused on that, and forgot the light as he reached back to try to take away the lighter.

And then there was the friend who was so busy telling me about her great date the night before that she lost track of the fact that she was, you know, driving, and ran a light.

I'm lucky to be alive...

Igel

(35,390 posts)
16. Depends how it's run.
Mon May 8, 2023, 08:05 PM
May 2023

I've missed getting in under the yellow or ran a red light because I was distracted. It's like the time I slipped going around a cloverleaf too fast and lost control, or when the driver of the car I was in lost control in the snow and wound up in a ditch. Obviously, I was intentionally going too fast (as was the driver that landed her car in the ditch)--except that "too fast" is a judgment call and not always intentional. Any more than the driver of the car that did cartwheels down the freeway decided go get a 10 in the "car gymnastics."

Then again, I've seen people stopped at a red light and rev their engines and accelerate on through light--and then through the red light 80 feet farther along.

They're different kinds of things.

Igel

(35,390 posts)
17. As an aside, what you're saying
Mon May 8, 2023, 08:06 PM
May 2023

is he flipped his SUV and might have died, all intentionally.

Perhaps. But it's to be proven and not assumed.

barbtries

(28,824 posts)
10. should be murder.
Mon May 8, 2023, 02:31 PM
May 2023

eight humans killed? 18 people total critically injured?

i hope they're looking at upgrading the charge. unfortunately prosecutors don't actually go for justice as much as they go for the win. manslaughter would be a gimme with this kind of carnage. but murder would be closer to the truth.

XorXor

(632 posts)
19. They would have to prove that it was intentional for that
Tue May 9, 2023, 12:32 PM
May 2023

I've heard of a single witness who said the person yelled something that could point toward it being intentional. I'm not sure if that was an official statement to the police, though. If that's all there is, is that enough to prove it was intentional?

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