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AZLD4Candidate

(5,854 posts)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 06:32 AM Mar 2023

Ron DeSantis says protecting Ukraine is not a 'vital' U.S. interest

Source: NBC via AOL

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a potential Republican presidential candidate, broke with many in his party Monday and told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that protecting Ukraine is not a "vital" national interest for the U.S.

“While the U.S. has many vital national interests — securing our borders, addressing the crisis of readiness within our military, achieving energy security and independence, and checking the economic, cultural, and military power of the Chinese Communist Party — becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them," DeSantis wrote in a questionnaire response Carlson posted on his Twitter feed.

"The Biden administration’s virtual 'blank check' funding of this conflict for 'as long as it takes,' without any defined objectives or accountability, distracts from our country’s most pressing challenges," DeSantis continued.

He argued that "peace should be the objective" for the U.S. and expressed his opposition to sending "F-16s and long-range missiles" to help Ukraine defend itself against Russian President Vladimir Putin's war.

Read more: https://www.aol.com/news/ron-desantis-says-protecting-ukraine-030911355.html



Go piss up a rope. Defending democracy IS in our national interest.
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Ron DeSantis says protecting Ukraine is not a 'vital' U.S. interest (Original Post) AZLD4Candidate Mar 2023 OP
"Territorial dispute". I guess thats how the idiots will phrase it now. oldsoftie Mar 2023 #1
"Why defend democracy there when I and Republicans are destroying it here?", he might say. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #5
Yup--he's got his hands full turning Florida fascist. Timeflyer Mar 2023 #22
You nailed it +1000000 DemocraticPatriot Mar 2023 #47
Guess what? Aussie105 Mar 2023 #2
DeSantis Neville Chamberlain moment. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #3
Funny how things change, eh? Grokenstein Mar 2023 #9
1930s Rs resisted combatting Germany (Lindberg) while Ds supported UK Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #12
Funny how they also stay the same... DemocraticPatriot Mar 2023 #49
Don't forget Snoopy 7 Mar 2023 #56
Oh, so now the moronic governor of FL is an expert on international relationships, etc. SWBTATTReg Mar 2023 #4
He Delphinus Mar 2023 #42
Ron d SANTIS why fight them now on the cheap by proxy gibraltar72 Mar 2023 #6
Shut the hell up Ron! tornado34jh Mar 2023 #7
DeSantis is holding out the basket toward Putin. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2023 #43
Same with Orban tornado34jh Mar 2023 #52
Ron DeSantis says Democracy is not a vital US interest. CousinIT Mar 2023 #8
No Republican believes anymore that democracy is a vital interest. Authoritarianism is their Lonestarblue Mar 2023 #10
Well... Mike Nelson Mar 2023 #11
Then when it finally affects their rights they whine like a bunch of babies SouthernDem4ever Mar 2023 #17
That's the essence of it all ... they really don't like giving everyone KPN Mar 2023 #20
DeSatan is NOT BlueMTexpat Mar 2023 #13
wonder at what point it becomes 'vital' to the US? rurallib Mar 2023 #14
G.O.P.'s Sleepy Surrender Weasels like Tiny D are eager... Achilleaze Mar 2023 #15
He's trying to be a better russian asset than trump SouthernDem4ever Mar 2023 #16
Yup! He is now Fox News' new golden boy and in doing so he will get Russian "help" in ... Botany Mar 2023 #18
Republicans love russia! The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #19
Yes the GOP wants total permanent power, control, wealth like Putin has in Russia. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #29
They Should Move to Russia. Cha Mar 2023 #40
I am gonna use that it is a good line. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #57
Protecting America from "woke" is vital apparently IronLionZion Mar 2023 #21
Because he thinks Democracy is not vital to the US. lark Mar 2023 #23
Ron "Vlad, can you give me hand like you did Donald?" ..nt Jarqui Mar 2023 #24
Exactly, DeSantis is asking China and Russia to install him into the WH. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #28
These idiots don't realize if Russia loses, that's the end of Russia's economy... brush Mar 2023 #25
DeSantis doesn't care about any of it. He cares about pulling in the Trump fascists. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2023 #44
DeSantis is appealing to two anti-American forces in his bid for the US Presidency - 70sEraVet Mar 2023 #26
Defending democracy is not a vital interest for DeSantis. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #27
Hey Ron!, Say you don't know anything about foreign policy without saying Gore1FL Mar 2023 #30
What do you expect from a Governor of Fl who thinks his own State's priorities Freethinker65 Mar 2023 #31
DeSantis is human garbage Mysterian Mar 2023 #32
Good to get him on the wrong side of this issue from a patriotism POV andym Mar 2023 #33
DeSatan is #2 on my list of people who need to be yeeted into the sun. ShazzieB Mar 2023 #34
Since When Did Repubs RobinA Mar 2023 #35
Ugh! Dustin The Wind Mar 2023 #36
Obviously he doesn't know history kimbutgar Mar 2023 #37
DeSantis has his head up his rectum. republianmushroom Mar 2023 #38
Oh YES it is, deStupid. Cha Mar 2023 #39
It's the border of the free world, you twit! Marcuse Mar 2023 #41
This is why schoolbooks are made in Texas! nt BidenRocks Mar 2023 #45
Follow the money.... Biglinda 52 Mar 2023 #46
So how many rubles has DeSatan taken in? sakabatou Mar 2023 #48
Protecting Florida is not a "vital" U.S. Interest. Give it back to Spain. Build a Wall, Biden! Wonder Why Mar 2023 #50
Putin is cutting that campaign donation check as we speak. n/t Yavin4 Mar 2023 #51
Even PUTIN doesn't call it a "territorial dispute." Grins Mar 2023 #53
DeSantis Putin's New Golden Boy/Agent of Chaos LudwigPastorius Mar 2023 #54
Begging Pooty for election help? moondust Mar 2023 #55
Ron DeSantis is not a 'vital' U.S. interest. dchill Mar 2023 #58
I saw him singing a different tune tonekat Mar 2023 #59

oldsoftie

(12,665 posts)
1. "Territorial dispute". I guess thats how the idiots will phrase it now.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 06:42 AM
Mar 2023

That implies Ukraine isnt a country.

Aussie105

(5,485 posts)
2. Guess what?
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 06:42 AM
Mar 2023

Listening to Ron DeSantis is not a 'vital' U.S. interest either.

The objectives?

Push Russia back behind its border.
Rebuild Ukraine.
Strengthen NATO so this doesn't happen again.

If Putin disappears in the process, so much the better.

Grokenstein

(5,730 posts)
9. Funny how things change, eh?
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 07:33 AM
Mar 2023

Republicans used to accuse us of capitulation, now GQP cretins call us warmongers because we're helping an independent nation resist a Russian invasion. What a world, what a world.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,069 posts)
12. 1930s Rs resisted combatting Germany (Lindberg) while Ds supported UK
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 07:50 AM
Mar 2023

FDR and the Democratic Party were proven right then.

JRB and the Democratic Party are right now.

Snoopy 7

(530 posts)
56. Don't forget
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 08:20 AM
Mar 2023

de santis is only trying to get what russia's old political ally, trump, was getting- a lot of RUSSIAN MONEY. trump is doing his best to stay in the russian money line while de santis is elbowing his way into the line.

gibraltar72

(7,517 posts)
6. Ron d SANTIS why fight them now on the cheap by proxy
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 07:01 AM
Mar 2023

when we can pay the big price later. God that man is stupid. Ukraine is destroying 3 million dollar Russian tanks with 1 hundred thousand dollar missiles.

tornado34jh

(973 posts)
7. Shut the hell up Ron!
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 07:06 AM
Mar 2023

You probably have never been outside the US. How much Russian money did you receive? What do you know about Ukraine? I dare you to go to Ukraine and say that to Zelensky, coward! They are fighting more for democracy than you ever will! What about Taiwan? Is that a US interest? I swear, people like this drive me crazy. They have no idea what they are talking about, probably have never even left the US but think they know everything.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,440 posts)
43. DeSantis is holding out the basket toward Putin.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 05:47 PM
Mar 2023

"How about some cash, Vlad?"

DeSantis would gladly disgrace the Constitution for a bag of money. That's who he is.

You want him, Florida? You can have him.

Lonestarblue

(10,156 posts)
10. No Republican believes anymore that democracy is a vital interest. Authoritarianism is their
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 07:42 AM
Mar 2023

new vial interest, under which they can establish the s as a theocracy governed for the beliefs of white evangelicals.

Mike Nelson

(9,984 posts)
11. Well...
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 07:45 AM
Mar 2023

... they've always had this secret, but I guess it's not in the open. There was a pro-Hitler group and a "conservative" anti-War group in the US. I think it was Bob Dole who once let the "Democrat Wars" comment slip... World War I being Woodrow Wilson's and World War II being FDR's war. They really don't like Democracy, I think, giving everyone a fair life.

KPN

(15,677 posts)
20. That's the essence of it all ... they really don't like giving everyone
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 08:38 AM
Mar 2023

a fair life. They see no differences in life opportunities among races, genders, sexual orientations, etc. But by golly, only straight white male Christians can be in charge.

rurallib

(62,478 posts)
14. wonder at what point it becomes 'vital' to the US?
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 08:05 AM
Mar 2023

Poland? Finland? The Baltic. states? East Germany? The Czech Republic?

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
15. G.O.P.'s Sleepy Surrender Weasels like Tiny D are eager...
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 08:13 AM
Mar 2023

to weasel out and thereby open the Ukrainian door to the raging tanks of yang-perverted XristoFascism, Inc. and allied wholesale slaughter of non-compliant entities. The repugs manifestly intend to bring facism home, wrapped in a hideous black flag and brandishing a Bible they do not actually honor.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
16. He's trying to be a better russian asset than trump
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 08:18 AM
Mar 2023

Desatan must need the campaign money and social media support from a terrorist state. What an asshole.

Botany

(70,639 posts)
18. Yup! He is now Fox News' new golden boy and in doing so he will get Russian "help" in ...
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 08:26 AM
Mar 2023

.... the election. He can talk all he wants about made up stuff CRT, Woke, and Fauci with his
"biomedical woke social control" but at the end of the day he is just like Trump and is pushing
the Christo Fascist right wing state.

DeSantis is an evil mother fucker.

lark

(23,191 posts)
23. Because he thinks Democracy is not vital to the US.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:14 AM
Mar 2023

He thinks christofascism is the way to go, democracy is so yesterday to him and his ilk.

brush

(53,971 posts)
25. These idiots don't realize if Russia loses, that's the end of Russia's economy...
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:25 AM
Mar 2023

for decades, as well as it being a military threat to the US, NATO and Europe, perhaps for decades, not to mention the end of Putin.

We will therefore be able to concentrate on China as out prime military adversary. You'd think DeSantis, wanting to run for president, would have at least a rudimentary grasp on the US and our allies role in geopolitics.

Guess DeSantis and the rest of the anti-Ukraine boobs are more enamored with Putin than waning to render him a loser who the Kremlin insiders will dispose of quickly when the war is lost.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,440 posts)
44. DeSantis doesn't care about any of it. He cares about pulling in the Trump fascists.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 05:52 PM
Mar 2023

So he's making overtures to Putin. He doesn't care about Ukraine. He never did. He cares about money and he knows that Putin will pour money into his shirt if DeSantis says the right words. So DeSantis DID say the right words, and NO ONE will be able to keep track of the tens of millions in dark money that will be cascading into the DeSantis coffers. It will come from Russia.

Irish_Dem

(47,833 posts)
27. Defending democracy is not a vital interest for DeSantis.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:42 AM
Mar 2023

He is an autocrat and sides with China and Russia.

Gore1FL

(21,165 posts)
30. Hey Ron!, Say you don't know anything about foreign policy without saying
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:48 AM
Mar 2023

you don't know anything about foreign policy.

Freethinker65

(10,105 posts)
31. What do you expect from a Governor of Fl who thinks his own State's priorities
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:56 AM
Mar 2023

are battling history classes in school, books with gay and minority characters from school shelves, denying medical care to a subset of the population, Disney, mask wearers, reporters and bloggers that disagree with him, etc.

Mysterian

(4,601 posts)
32. DeSantis is human garbage
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:37 AM
Mar 2023

Nothing he says could increase my contempt for him.

How sad that people voted for such a depraved person to be their governor. But the fact is there are tens of millions of depraved people in the USA who would throw away their freedom to install a hateful, fascist dictatorship.

andym

(5,446 posts)
33. Good to get him on the wrong side of this issue from a patriotism POV
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:51 AM
Mar 2023

Would be able to tag him as soft on Russia-- anti-American in debates. Argument comes down to not stopping Russian aggression now, means possibly American boys and girls will have to fight them later.

ShazzieB

(16,636 posts)
34. DeSatan is #2 on my list of people who need to be yeeted into the sun.
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:56 AM
Mar 2023

Right after the Orange Hellbeast.



RobinA

(9,903 posts)
35. Since When Did Repubs
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:59 AM
Mar 2023

decide that Russia isn't a threat? Weren't a bunch of presidents mired in Vietnam because they didn't want Repubs to call them soft on Communism? Do these people have any actual ideas that they stick with?

kimbutgar

(21,270 posts)
37. Obviously he doesn't know history
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 12:32 PM
Mar 2023

I seem to remember a similar demagogue invading Poland.

Stfu defascist.

Wonder Why

(3,336 posts)
50. Protecting Florida is not a "vital" U.S. Interest. Give it back to Spain. Build a Wall, Biden!
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 08:31 PM
Mar 2023

Or give it to the Hurricanes or the Seminoles. Hey, if the U.S. Government gives the central part including the Orlando area to the remaining Seminole people with full rights to administer it as an independent nation, they would own DisneyWorld and could collect tolls from all Floridians going beck and forth.

In our area, we spray for Floridians and other invasive insects every summer but they keep returning.

LudwigPastorius

(9,257 posts)
54. DeSantis Putin's New Golden Boy/Agent of Chaos
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:57 PM
Mar 2023

Somebody needs to see if Ron's got an offshore account being stuffed with money.

moondust

(20,025 posts)
55. Begging Pooty for election help?
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 12:36 AM
Mar 2023

Gotta wonder if these GZPers against aid to Ukraine are pandering for Putin's interference in their coming elections.

tonekat

(1,834 posts)
59. I saw him singing a different tune
Wed Mar 15, 2023, 12:09 PM
Mar 2023

MSNBC showed some videos of him absolutely making pro-Ukraine statements in the not too distant past. It would be nice if they were more widely shown to illustrate his hypocrisy.

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