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Sun Feb 5, 2023, 10:37 PM

Star Member BeyondGeography (38,561 posts)

Magnitude 7.8 earthquake hits Turkey

Source: CNN

CNN
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A magnitude 7.8 earthquake has hit southern Turkey, the United States Geological Survey (USGS) said Monday.

The quake’s depth is 24.1 kilometers (14.9 miles), located 23 kilometers (14.2 miles) east of Nurdagi, Gaziantep province, according to the USGS.

Strong aftershocks have been felt in central Turkey, where another earthquake of 6.7 magnitude struck at a depth of 9.9 kilometers about 11 minutes after the first quake, the USGS said.





Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/05/europe/earthquake-hits-turkey-intl-hnk/index.html

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Reply Magnitude 7.8 earthquake hits Turkey (Original post)
 BeyondGeography Feb 5 OP
LineReply This message was self-deleted by its author
 Chin music Feb 5 #1
LineLineReply Seems to just be a guy reading online reports.
 brooklynite Feb 5 #4
LineReply I'm scheduled to travel to Gaziantep at the end of March.
 brooklynite Feb 5 #2
LineLineReply What's there? Full disclosure I'm Armenian
 LeftInTX Feb 6 #17
LineLineLineReply Scheduled for a history and culture tour in Eastern Turkey
 brooklynite Feb 6 #32
LineReply This is bad.
 milestogo Feb 5 #3
LineLineReply amazing the power is still on nt
 msongs Feb 6 #16
LineReply 1 hour to daylight. Temperature 30-35 F
 Tetrachloride Feb 5 #5
LineReply Huge.
 James48 Feb 5 #6
LineReply Egypt has been seismically active this past month:
 Tetrachloride Feb 5 #7
LineReply that's big. both of them
 ZonkerHarris Feb 5 #8
LineReply For reference, the Loma Prieta in '89 was "only" a 6.9, Northridge "only" a 6.7
 NullTuples Feb 5 #9
LineReply I look at the depth even if is strong on the magnitude scale and there are other factors
 yaesu Feb 5 #10
LineReply That's a monster ......
 Lovie777 Feb 5 #11
LineReply There are two faults that run through Turkey
 tornado34jh Feb 6 #12
LineLineNew Reply It's all mountains
 LeftInTX Feb 6 #44
LineLineLineNew Reply Indeed
 tornado34jh Feb 6 #46
LineReply Stage 4 alert by Turkey..........
 Lovie777 Feb 6 #13
LineReply It's still rockin' and rollin'...
 2naSalit Feb 6 #14
LineReply Potentially the biggest quake to ever hit that region
 Marius25 Feb 6 #15
LineReply So far 76 dead, 440 injured
 Warpy Feb 6 #18
LineLineReply I think it is now over 500-600 dead as of now
 tornado34jh Feb 6 #19
LineLineLineReply It's going to go much higher
 Warpy Feb 6 #36
LineLineLineLineNew Reply Certain countries seem to have the deadliest earthquakes
 tornado34jh Feb 6 #41
LineReply That is a very strong, catastrophic quake.
 ananda Feb 6 #20
LineReply Latest CNN headline - "More than 1,000 dead as powerful quake hits southern Turkey and Syria"
 BumRushDaShow Feb 6 #21
LineLineReply This one is truly bad.
 herding cats Feb 6 #22
LineReply Another 7.8...
 SuperCoder Feb 6 #23
LineReply We know people on both sides of that region. Haven't gotten thru to them as yet.
 FailureToCommunicate Feb 6 #24
LineLineReply Might be a long time before you can reach them
 wnylib Feb 6 #25
LineLineLineReply Thanks!
 FailureToCommunicate Feb 6 #31
LineReply From the Guardian
 wnylib Feb 6 #26
LineLineReply Combined death toll from Turkey and Syria quakes passes 1,400
 muriel_volestrangler Feb 6 #27
LineReply Photos from The Guardian
 wnylib Feb 6 #28
LineReply Video shows collapsing buildings
 wnylib Feb 6 #29
LineReply BREAKING NEWS - a 7.5 aftershock hit along with a more recent 6
 BumRushDaShow Feb 6 #30
LineReply Death toll rises over 2,000
 brooklynite Feb 6 #33
LineReply An update from CBS News
 Marthe48 Feb 6 #34
LineReply Watching TV and they say they hear people screaming for help
 Emile Feb 6 #35
LineReply Saw a TV clip
 homegirl Feb 6 #37
LineLineNew Reply Reprobate comment of the day
 FredGarvin Feb 6 #40
LineLineLineNew Reply Reality..
 homegirl Feb 6 #47
LineLineNew Reply No. Just no.
 MissB Feb 6 #45
LineNew Reply Wow, IT'S BAD ! nt
 TeamProg Feb 6 #38
LineNew Reply UPDATE: Death toll now 2,600
 brooklynite Feb 6 #39
LineLineNew Reply Sadly
 Ananda62 Feb 6 #43
LineNew Reply And the aftershock was just as bad, 7.7, only 12 hours later.
 ananda Feb 6 #42

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Sun Feb 5, 2023, 10:47 PM

Star Member brooklynite (85,605 posts)

4. Seems to just be a guy reading online reports.

CNNTURK.com has video of conditions.

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Sun Feb 5, 2023, 10:44 PM

Star Member brooklynite (85,605 posts)

2. I'm scheduled to travel to Gaziantep at the end of March.

Last edited Mon Feb 6, 2023, 09:34 AM - Edit history (1)

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 02:30 AM

Star Member LeftInTX (21,776 posts)

17. What's there? Full disclosure I'm Armenian

However, it seems like an out of the way place.
My great grandfather used to lie and say he was from Adana. We were.from Tomarza near Kayseri.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 09:34 AM

Star Member brooklynite (85,605 posts)

32. Scheduled for a history and culture tour in Eastern Turkey

Supposed to fly in to Gazientep and out of Diyarbakir (both sustained serious damage).

During our 2 days in Gaziantep, we will visit several important museums, including the wonderful new Roman Mosaic Museum (the largest in the world), the Archaeological Museum, the War Museum, located in an Ottoman house, which illustrates the resistance of the residents to the French Colonial forces between April 1920 and February 1921. We’ll also visit the castle, explore the Ottoman bazaar, including the famous coppersmith bazaar. And since Gaziantep is regarded as having the richest cuisine in Turkey, designated as a City of Gastronomy by UNESCO in 2015, we’ll have a food tour, sample the delicious katmer (crisp filo pastry with pistachios and clotted cream, often eaten at breakfast), lunch in the Culinary Arts Center, and visit the Cuisine Museum, located in the historic Göğüş Mansion.


Diyarbakir is the world’s largest Kurdish-speaking city. It has the widest and longest city walls in the world, second only to the Great Wall of China. Though the oldest walls date back to 6th century BC, the actual ones are from Roman times. The emperor Constantinos II commissioned them in 4th century AD. Since then, they have been rebuilt many times using stone, black basalt, and adobe.

Over our 2 days here we will visit these walls, the impressive Archaeology Museum, Keldani Church, Ulu Cami (12th c. Seljuk mosque), 16th c. caravanserais, Dicle bridge over the Tigris, and Hevsel gardens. We will also have time to explore the old city and wander in the backstreets which are full of cafes, bookshops and restaurants.

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Sun Feb 5, 2023, 10:45 PM

Star Member milestogo (14,556 posts)

3. This is bad.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 01:40 AM

Star Member msongs (65,371 posts)

16. amazing the power is still on nt

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Sun Feb 5, 2023, 10:52 PM

Tetrachloride (5,599 posts)

5. 1 hour to daylight. Temperature 30-35 F

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Sun Feb 5, 2023, 10:54 PM

Star Member James48 (4,070 posts)

6. Huge.

That level quake in that area- and the losses could be huge. That’s a big quake.

“ John Yoon, New York Times”
Updated
Feb. 5, 2023, 9:24 p.m.
John Yoon

Here’s what you need to know about the earthquake.

A magnitude 7.8 earthquake struck Turkey early Monday and was followed by a powerful aftershock that was felt across the region in Syria and Lebanon.

The earthquake hit at 4:17 a.m. near the city of Nurdagi, according to the United States Geological Survey. It had a depth of about 10 miles. An aftershock measured 6.7.”

Also felt in Israel. More:


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/02/05/world/turkey-earthquake/turkey-earthquake?smid=url-share

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Sun Feb 5, 2023, 10:56 PM

Tetrachloride (5,599 posts)

7. Egypt has been seismically active this past month:

after more than 2 years of relative quiet. Small stuff. 4.0. .. just saying

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Sun Feb 5, 2023, 11:00 PM

Star Member ZonkerHarris (22,417 posts)

8. that's big. both of them

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Sun Feb 5, 2023, 11:02 PM

NullTuples (5,193 posts)

9. For reference, the Loma Prieta in '89 was "only" a 6.9, Northridge "only" a 6.7

A magnitude 7.8 is:

7.943 times (so almost 8x ) "bigger" than a 6.9

but releases 22.387 times more energy.

(if you want to play with the numbers: https://earthquake.usgs.gov/education/calculator.php )


The Richter scale is base 10 logarithmic: A 4 is practically nothing. Anything below a 5, I've sometimes barely noticed. A 6 is concerning; I've run to doorways for 6.1-6.3. Loma Prieta had me run for and push open the basement emergency exit of the building I was in while yelling "earthquake" to everyone else in the archives. But a magnitude 7.8...that would be *terrifying*.

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Sun Feb 5, 2023, 11:25 PM

yaesu (7,786 posts)

10. I look at the depth even if is strong on the magnitude scale and there are other factors

This one was about 5 miles deep which is pretty shallow for quakes so yes, damage could be significant.

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Sun Feb 5, 2023, 11:59 PM

Star Member Lovie777 (7,769 posts)

11. That's a monster ......

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 12:39 AM

tornado34jh (426 posts)

12. There are two faults that run through Turkey

The North Anatolian Fault, which runs basically the northern part of Turkey, including just south of Istanbul, and the East Anatolian Fault, which runs through eastern Turkey as it clashes with the Arabian plate and also an area called the Bitlis-Zagros Fold and Thrust Belt. While neither fault are a subduction zone, which are where the biggest earthquakes there, both faults are known to have very strong earthquakes, including one in 1999 in Izmit, and a similar strength earthquake in 1939. But the strongest was an earthquake in 1669, with a magnitude 7.8-8.0, so Turkey is an active seismic area.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 04:51 PM

Star Member LeftInTX (21,776 posts)

44. It's all mountains

And the Arabian plate pushes north

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 05:44 PM

tornado34jh (426 posts)

46. Indeed

Some of those mountains are more than 13,000 feet, with Mount Ararat being 16,854 feet (5,137 m). Mount Ararat is a dormant volcano as well, and it last erupted in 1840, and that was possibly associated with a 7.4 earthquake as well.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 12:43 AM

Star Member Lovie777 (7,769 posts)

13. Stage 4 alert by Turkey..........

help from worldwide requested. I'm pretty sure California will comply.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 01:09 AM

Star Member 2naSalit (70,550 posts)

14. It's still rockin' and rollin'...

Pretty hard over there. A large area was impacted with land slides and liquefaction probable.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 01:26 AM

Marius25 (1,728 posts)

15. Potentially the biggest quake to ever hit that region

It was felt in Cyprus, Lebanon, and Israel. USGS expecting thousands, if not tens of thousands dead and numerous billions of dollars in damage.

Video coming out so far shows entire city blocks flattened.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 02:34 AM

Star Member Warpy (106,542 posts)

18. So far 76 dead, 440 injured

but it looks like several high rise apartment buildings have collapsed.

At least it's light now, they can see what they're doing. Heavy equipment is arriving, I hope not prematurely.

This is awful.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 04:52 AM

tornado34jh (426 posts)

19. I think it is now over 500-600 dead as of now

There is a saying that earthquakes don't kill people, buildings do. I'm not a building engineer, but I do wonder how well structured these buildings are built. I don't think they are as seismically sturdy as they are in say Japan or Taiwan. Also, depending on what soil they were built on, you can get something called soil liquefaction, where the ground basically acts like a liquid.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 01:06 PM

Star Member Warpy (106,542 posts)

36. It's going to go much higher

Turkey isn't noted for strict building codes and Syria is just beginning to recover from war.

Also, central and south central Turkey has quite a few sleeping volcanoes and this is the kind of quake that might wake one up.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 03:01 PM

tornado34jh (426 posts)

41. Certain countries seem to have the deadliest earthquakes

Turkey, Iran, China, Haiti, parts of South America, specifically Chile and the Andean countries, Indonesia, the Indian subcontinent (specifically Nepal), and others. Whilst Japan, Taiwan, and the United States do have earthquake standards, a lot of these countries don't have the infrastructure to do so.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 06:13 AM

Star Member ananda (27,564 posts)

20. That is a very strong, catastrophic quake.

Poor prople.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 06:36 AM

Star Member BumRushDaShow (109,999 posts)

21. Latest CNN headline - "More than 1,000 dead as powerful quake hits southern Turkey and Syria"

Have been hearing the reports on the radio (CBS news radio). And I expect the aftershocks will make it worse.

https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/?currentFeatureId=us6000jlq5&extent=26.03704,-334.55566&extent=44.02442,-292.36816

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 06:45 AM

Star Member herding cats (18,897 posts)

22. This one is truly bad.

More than 1,200 now pronounced dead in Syria and Turkey combined and the numbers just keep rising.

The totals from the rebel held northern parts of Syria are, of course, slow to be reported. Sadly, it was the hardest hit region in Syria. The loss of life there will be slow to come in.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 07:31 AM

SuperCoder (263 posts)

23. Another 7.8...

has hit...

followed by the following aftershocks:

5.5
6.0
5.8
5.6
and a bunch of 4.8s - 4.9s



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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 07:41 AM

Star Member FailureToCommunicate (13,370 posts)

24. We know people on both sides of that region. Haven't gotten thru to them as yet.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 07:55 AM

Star Member wnylib (17,339 posts)

25. Might be a long time before you can reach them

or before they can respond. Communications will be badly disrupted.

I remember following the 1999 quake in Turkey online. There was an Internet site where people who could get Internet access exchanged reports about specific people and places.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 08:45 AM

Star Member FailureToCommunicate (13,370 posts)

31. Thanks!

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 08:13 AM

Star Member wnylib (17,339 posts)

26. From the Guardian

Turkey, Syria, most affected. From another source, the quakes have been felt in Iraq, Lebanon, Israel and other nations in the area. The EU has mobilized its search and rescue operations.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/feb/06/turkey-earthquake-2023-live-updates-quake-tremor-latest-news

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 08:15 AM

muriel_volestrangler (99,240 posts)

27. Combined death toll from Turkey and Syria quakes passes 1,400

From the same live updates:

The combined death toll from the two large earthquakes that struck Turkey and Syria on Monday has reached at least 1,400 people.

Official figures from Turkey say 912 people were killed there, 5,383 were injured, and 2,818 buildings had collapsed. Syria’s health ministry said that more than 326 people had been killed and 1,042 injured.

In addition to those figures, rescue services in the north-west of Syria in areas not controlled by the government put their death toll at 221, giving a total of 1,459 confirmed dead.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/feb/06/turkey-earthquake-2023-live-updates-quake-tremor-latest-news?page=with:block-63e0ea318f08ba2ef0b71ffa#block-63e0ea318f08ba2ef0b71ffa

and then add another hundred:

Reuters has a quick snap that the official death toll in Turkey has risen by 102 to stand at 1,014 people killed.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/feb/06/turkey-earthquake-2023-live-updates-quake-tremor-latest-news?page=with:block-63e0eea78f08422c6ba0c471#block-63e0eea78f08422c6ba0c471

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 08:29 AM

Star Member wnylib (17,339 posts)

29. Video shows collapsing buildings

and one view from inside a building as the quake shakes it.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 08:40 AM

Star Member BumRushDaShow (109,999 posts)

30. BREAKING NEWS - a 7.5 aftershock hit along with a more recent 6

Feb 06, 7:02 AM EST
7.5 magnitude aftershock hits Turkey

Several hours after a 7.8 magnitude earthquake rocked southeastern Turkey early Monday, a powerful aftershock measuring 7.5 hit the country’s Kahramanmaras province around 1:30 p.m. local time, according to the United States Geological Survey.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/turkey-earthquake/?id=96913081#96917807


https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/?currentFeatureId=us6000jlqa&extent=28.61346,-340.66406&extent=46.07323,-298.47656

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 10:57 AM

Star Member brooklynite (85,605 posts)

33. Death toll rises over 2,000

Combined death toll in Turkey and Syria rises to at least 2,300

Associated Press report that the death toll from Monday’s earthquakes in Turkey and Syria has now climbed to over 2,300 people.

At least 1,498 people were killed across 10 provinces of Turkey, with another 7,600 injured, according to the country’s disaster management agency.

The death toll in government-held areas of Syria rose to more than 430 people, with 1,280 injured, according to data from the health ministry. In the country’s north-west where the government is not in control, groups that operate there said the death toll was at least 380, with many hundreds injured.

The number is expected to continue to rise rapidly, with many people believed to be trapped under rubble in collapsed buildings.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/feb/06/turkey-earthquake-2023-live-updates-quake-tremor-latest-news

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 12:10 PM

Star Member Marthe48 (12,317 posts)

34. An update from CBS News

About 25 minutes ago:

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/earthquake-turkey-syria-death-toll-rescues/

Reporting over 2000 dead in S.E. Turkey and Northern Syria. And there was another 7.5 magnitude on Monday afternoon, according to this report. Horrible news.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 01:01 PM

Star Member Emile (11,983 posts)

35. Watching TV and they say they hear people screaming for help

after being buried with rubble. Showed them digging out what looked like a cute little 3 or 4 year old little boy alive. Horrible tragedy!

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 01:10 PM

homegirl (1,244 posts)

37. Saw a TV clip

of a local demanding international assistance to rebuild. Is there some way that could be tied to admitting Sweden and Finland into NATO? Something Turkey has opposed, whose side are they on?


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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 02:37 PM

FredGarvin (324 posts)

40. Reprobate comment of the day

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 06:31 PM

homegirl (1,244 posts)

47. Reality..

reminds me too much of the red states that vote against assistance to blue states but demand assistance for their catastrophes and failure to invest in their own infrastructure! Haven't you noticed?

Turkey seems particularly earthquake prone-what have they done to strengthen building codes? California has similar situation but we are constantly strengthening building codes and even retroactive requirements.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 05:01 PM

Star Member MissB (15,507 posts)

45. No. Just no.

Folks all over the world will send help, regardless of politics and human rights and anything else going on in the world.

The first step to rebuilding is to find all the folks still alive trapped underneath.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 01:32 PM

Star Member TeamProg (3,439 posts)

38. Wow, IT'S BAD ! nt

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 01:59 PM

Star Member brooklynite (85,605 posts)

39. UPDATE: Death toll now 2,600

Earthquake kills more than 2,600 in Turkey, Syria; second massive quake follows

ISTANBUL — A 7.8-magnitude earthquake in southern Turkey early Monday killed more than 2,600 people across the country and in neighboring Syria, officials said, as rescuers searched flattened buildings in frigid weather for survivors. The earthquake — felt as far away as Lebanon, Jordan, Israel and Egypt — occurred in Kahramanmaras province, north of Gaziantep, near the Syrian border.
Rescue efforts are ongoing, and the number of people killed, injured and displaced is set to climb.

Twas followed by dozens of powerful aftershocks, including a 7.5-magnitude earthquake in the same fault zone of south-central Turkey on Monday afternoon. Most of the damage is in southern Turkey and northern and central Syria.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/02/05/turkey-earthquake-istanbul-death-toll

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 03:42 PM

Ananda62 (252 posts)

43. Sadly

Sky News reports that the death toll is over 3,000.

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Mon Feb 6, 2023, 03:01 PM

Star Member ananda (27,564 posts)

42. And the aftershock was just as bad, 7.7, only 12 hours later.

Those poor people.

Sigh

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