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BumRushDaShow

(129,498 posts)
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 04:54 PM Dec 2022

Trump Organization convicted in New York criminal tax fraud case

Source: CNBC

Two subsidiaries of the Trump Organization were convicted Tuesday by a jury in New York City of multiple crimes, including tax fraud, falsifying business records and conspiracy. The guilty verdicts on all 17 counts come weeks after the company’s owner, Republican former President Donald Trump, declared his candidacy for the White House in the 2024 election.

Trump was not personally a defendant in the case, which was related to a scheme by his company to avoid taxes on compensation in the form of perks including free apartments and luxury cars to its then-chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg and other executives since 2005. But a prosecutor in closing arguments said that Trump “knew exactly what was going on.” A jury in Manhattan Supreme Court began deliberations in the case on Monday after a trial that featured testimony by Weisselberg.

Defense lawyers had argued that Weisselberg — who earlier pleaded guilty to 15 felony charges — was solely responsible for the scheme, not the Trump Organization. Trump’s company faces fines of up to $1.6 million at sentencing in the case. The guilty verdicts also could harm the firm’s ability to obtain loans for its various real estate holdings and other business ventures,

Trump, three of his adult children, and the Trump Organization also still face a pending civil lawsuit by New York Attorney General Letitia James that alleges widespread fraud involving years of false financial statements related to the company. James is seeking at least $250 million in damages in that case. One of the subsidiaries charged in the criminal case, the Trump Corporation, was convicted of nine counts. The other defendant, the Trump Payroll Corporation, was convicted of the remaining seven counts.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/06/trump-organization-convicted-in-new-york-criminal-tax-fraud-case.html



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Two subsidiaries of the Trump Organization were convicted Tuesday of multiple crimes, including tax fraud, falsifying business records and conspiracy by a jury in New York City.

The convictions on all 17 counts come weeks after the company's owner, Republican former President Donald Trump, declared his candidacy for the White House in the 2024 election.

Trump was not personally a defendant in the case, which related to a scheme by his company to avoid taxes on compensation in the form of perks to its then-chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg and other executives since 2005. But a prosecutor in closing arguments said that Trump "knew exactly what was going on."

A jury in Manhattan Supreme Court began deliberations in the case this week after a trial that featured testimony by Weisselberg, who earlier pleaded guilty. The Trump Organization faces fines of up to $1.6 million at sentencing in the case. The guilty verdicts also could harm the company's ability to obtain loans.

This is breaking news. Please check back for updates.


Two subsidiaries of the Trump Organization were convicted Tuesday of multiple crimes, including tax fraud, falsifying business records and conspiracy by a jury in New York City.

The convictions come weeks after the company's owner, former President Donald Trump, declared his candidacy for the White House in the 2024 election.

Trump was not personally a defendant in the case, which related to a scheme by his company to avoid taxes on compensation to its then-chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg and other executives since 2005.

A jury in Manhattan Supreme Court began deliberations in the case this week after a trial that featured testimony by Weisselberg, who earlier pleaded guilty. The Trump Organization faces fines of up to $1.6 million at sentencing in the case.

This is breaking news. Please check back for updates.


The Trump Organization was convicted Tuesday of multiple crimes, including tax fraud, falsifying business records and conspiracy after a trial in New York City.

The convictions come weeks after the company's owner, former President Donald Trump, declared his candidacy for the White House in the 2024 election.

A jury in Manhattan Supreme Court began deliberations in the case this week.

This is breaking news. Please check back for updates.



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b]Verdict reached in Trump Organization's criminal tax fraud trial

A Manhattan jury has reached a verdict in the criminal tax fraud trial of President Donald Trump's namesake real estate company.

Two entities of the Trump Organization -- the Trump Corporation and the Trump Payroll Corporation -- are accused of paying the personal expenses of some executives without reporting them as income, and for compensating them as independent contractors instead of full-time employees. Each entity was charged with scheme to defraud, conspiracy, criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records.

Prosecutors believed the Trump Organization was culpable because the conduct of CFO Allen Weisselberg benefitted the company and because his position as CFO meant he was entrusted to act on the company's behalf. Weisselberg, who testified as part of a plea deal, pleaded guilty in August to charges that he skirted taxes on nearly $2 million in company-provided perks that included the rent on his Manhattan apartment, the leases on cars for himself and his wife and tuition for his grandchildren.

Weisselberg testified at trial that he reduced his reported salary by the total amount of the personal expenses that the company covered, and that the company benefitted by paying less in payroll taxes. He also testified that his primary motive was greed.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/verdict-reached-trump-organizations-criminal-tax-fraud-trial/story?id94508551
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Trump Organization convicted in New York criminal tax fraud case (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 OP
Guilty on all counts! Cattledog Dec 2022 #1
So, what is it? ananda Dec 2022 #2
Bazinga!!! 👍 electric_blue68 Dec 2022 #3
Guilty!!! honest.abe Dec 2022 #4
They will announce verdict when they go back to court. louis-t Dec 2022 #5
Verdict announced (updated the article) BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #7
By the time I hit the post button, it was updated louis-t Dec 2022 #13
My poor little fingers are trying BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #17
K&R Blue Owl Dec 2022 #6
Trump Organization found guilty on multiple counts of criminal tax fraud LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #8
Since it's a first time offense Kennah Dec 2022 #9
"Boss of criminal organization running for president!" (nt) muriel_volestrangler Dec 2022 #10
Midnight flight to anywhere Sanity Claws Dec 2022 #11
NYT article irisblue Dec 2022 #12
NY Times has been doing those "live updates" on this BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #22
I can see that. irisblue Dec 2022 #23
disband the company moonshinegnomie Dec 2022 #14
That's just paperwork. I say fine it & force it to liquidate assets he sees as "his". NullTuples Dec 2022 #45
And there are still people who think louis-t Dec 2022 #15
This is good. Tom Yossarian Joad Dec 2022 #16
Maybe today will become known as Marthe48 Dec 2022 #18
"Trump Organization found guilty on multiple counts of criminal tax fraud" Botany Dec 2022 #19
thank you Manhattan jury. IcyPeas Dec 2022 #20
Sentencing in Jan. brooklynite Dec 2022 #21
Fines of up to $1.6 million .... KPN Dec 2022 #24
GMTA niyad Dec 2022 #26
TY KPN Dec 2022 #29
The NY AG's civil case's potential fines will be more along the much higher amounts BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #28
Defense lawyers probably cost more than that Diraven Dec 2022 #36
That was my thoughts, also there just has to be at least as much prosecuting the case msfiddlestix Dec 2022 #40
Am I the only person thinking that a 1.6 million fine is barely a tap on the wrist? niyad Dec 2022 #25
That's nice CanonRay Dec 2022 #27
The RWNJs need a few dozen whaaaaambulances MissMillie Dec 2022 #30
GUILTY!!! orangecrush Dec 2022 #31
... BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #32
" Here come the judge, here come the judge" Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #42
... orangecrush Dec 2022 #47
If Corporations are people, James48 Dec 2022 #33
The RWNJs need a few dozen whaaaaambulances MissMillie Dec 2022 #34
Seems like a relative slap on the wrist in terms of consequences Jarqui Dec 2022 #35
Can the corporate veil be pierced to actually sentence officers of the corporation is my question? Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #37
Allen Weisselberg (CEO) and Matthew "The Squid" Calamari (COO) may face some consequences, but... LudwigPastorius Dec 2022 #38
So Orange Julius was not an officer in the corporation? Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #43
Trump "resigned" from the org. just after he was sworn in. LudwigPastorius Dec 2022 #46
Hope they flip Weisselberg Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #48
... Sky Jewels Dec 2022 #39
like it republianmushroom Dec 2022 #41
Lock him up!!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 #44

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,567 posts)
8. Trump Organization found guilty on multiple counts of criminal tax fraud
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 05:03 PM
Dec 2022

This makes me smile



https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/06/politics/trump-organization-fraud-trial-verdict/index.html

A Manhattan jury has found two Trump Organization companies guilty on multiple charges of criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records connected to a 15-year scheme to defraud tax authorities by failing to report and pay taxes on compensation for top executives.

The Trump Corp. and Trump Payroll Corp. were found guilty on all charges they faced.

Donald Trump and his family have not been charged in this case.

This story is breaking and will be updated.

Marthe48

(17,027 posts)
18. Maybe today will become known as
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 05:15 PM
Dec 2022

The St. Nicholas Day Massacre.

Because today is St. Nicholas Day. And that verdict is no walk in the park.

Botany

(70,585 posts)
19. "Trump Organization found guilty on multiple counts of criminal tax fraud"
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 05:21 PM
Dec 2022

A Manhattan jury has found two Trump Organization companies guilty on multiple charges of criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records connected to a 15-year scheme to defraud tax authorities by failing to report and pay taxes on compensation for top executives.

The Trump Corp. and Trump Payroll Corp. were found guilty on all charges they faced.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217438290

And this is just the start.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017788216

And he faces criminal charges from the N.Y. DA's office, Georgia, the IRS, the Dept. of Justice, and whatever the J-6 committee passes
on to the DoJ.

BumRushDaShow

(129,498 posts)
28. The NY AG's civil case's potential fines will be more along the much higher amounts
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:38 PM
Dec 2022

(potentially tens to hundreds of millions)

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
40. That was my thoughts, also there just has to be at least as much prosecuting the case
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 08:30 PM
Dec 2022

I'm thiinking along the terms of everythng related to invesigations, and otherr processes leading up to trial, etc et .

at least as much if not much more

Wondered if coutt fees and other costs would be levied separately.



niyad

(113,576 posts)
25. Am I the only person thinking that a 1.6 million fine is barely a tap on the wrist?
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:30 PM
Dec 2022

1.6 BILLION, maybe.

CanonRay

(14,118 posts)
27. That's nice
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:33 PM
Dec 2022

but as usual nobody is going to jail. Because corporations are NOT people. Seriously, what's the penalty? A big fine? Trump plays the bankruptcy courts like a symphony.

MissMillie

(38,580 posts)
30. The RWNJs need a few dozen whaaaaambulances
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:45 PM
Dec 2022

"there's no law in this country any more"

"banana republic"

"no justice"

"when will the persecution stop?"




They'll never look at him w/o their rose-colored spectacles.

MissMillie

(38,580 posts)
34. The RWNJs need a few dozen whaaaaambulances
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:58 PM
Dec 2022

"there's no law in this country any more"

"banana republic"

"no justice"

"when will the persecution stop?"




They'll never look at him w/o their rose-colored spectacles.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
35. Seems like a relative slap on the wrist in terms of consequences
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 07:07 PM
Dec 2022

He'll pay the fine by telling his MAGAts another lie to solicit campaign donations.

LudwigPastorius

(9,177 posts)
38. Allen Weisselberg (CEO) and Matthew "The Squid" Calamari (COO) may face some consequences, but...
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 07:56 PM
Dec 2022

Trump?

Not in this case. Alvin Bragg had the opportunity to indict Trump for these charges and passed.

LudwigPastorius

(9,177 posts)
46. Trump "resigned" from the org. just after he was sworn in.
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 10:42 PM
Dec 2022

Title and management of the company was transferred to a trust overseen by Alan Weissberg.

This was not a blind trust, so you can bet Trump was still calling all the shots and directing the tax evasion scheme, but without testimony or incriminating documents, it's a tough prove for prosecutors.

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