Federal judge orders former top lawyers in Trump's White House to testify in criminal grand jury

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: CNN Politics

CNN — A federal judge has ordered former top Trump White House lawyers to provide additional grand jury testimony, rejecting former President Donald Trump’s privilege claims in the Justice Department’s criminal investigation of his effort to overturn the 2020 election, people briefed on the matter said.

Pat Cipollone, the Trump White House counsel, and his deputy, Patrick Philbin, appeared in September before the grand jury in Washington, DC, as part of the Justice Department probe, which is now being overseen by newly appointed special counsel Jack Smith.

Cipollone and Philbin declined to answer some questions at that time, citing Trump’s claims of executive and attorney-client privilege. Cipollone and Philbin didn’t respond to CNN’s request for comment.

Trump is expected to appeal. CNN has reached out to his representatives. The Justice Department did not respond to a request for comment.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/01/politics/cipollone-philbin-trump-lawyers-testify/index.html

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[emulatorloo]

1. Excellent. I get the feeling Cipollone has been wanting to tell all for a while.

[BumRushDaShow]

2. I was thinking the same thing

[ShazzieB]

19. What leads you to think that?

I mean, I really, really hope you're right about this! I'm just interested to hear your reasoning.

I don't know what to think myself and would love to know why you think Cipollone wants to spill!

[BumRushDaShow]

20. The testimony that was aired of him from the J6 committee

and even his previous involvement in the defense for the first impeachment. Like a fish out of water although he did his due diligence to represent his client. In fact right now on Chris Hayes they are just discussing how he and Philbin want to "tell their story".

Oddly enough, he's not a loon like the Ghouliani or Jenna Ellis or Sidney Powell. There's a good background article on him here - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-cipollone/white-house-lawyer-in-trump-trial-is-both-defender-and-key-witness-to-events-idUSKBN1ZK1DD

[sheshe2]

3. Shake that tree and let them all fall out.

[onetexan]

11. +1 -K&R!!

[sheshe2]

15. They are dropping at an accelerated rate now.

No wonder the MAGA's are losing their collective sh*t right now.

[Botany]

4. Good. The walls are closing in on Trump!

"A federal judge has ordered former top Trump White House lawyers to provide additional
grand jury testimony, .... "

[maxsolomon]

5. "Trump is expected to appeal."

those walls are closing at a glacial pace.

[Mr. Ected]

6. "Trump is expected to appeal"

By the time our justice system finally clears Trump's multitudinal appeals and allows these cases to go forward, Don Jr. will be recounting his own 12 years in office while defiantly hoovering a line of coke on Tucker, Jr.'s show.

Sorry. Due process takes time but when the criminals can crime faster and more plentifully, it seems like we can never peg an apt and timely penalty to a serious and public crime.

[BumRushDaShow]

7. But wait...

there's this - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143001552

[emulatorloo]

10. Wow, Trump's week just gets worse and worse!

I was expecting 11th circuit to rule against him, but didn’t know they got it done today.

Thanks for the link!

[Mr. Ected]

12. One down...

And to be honest, in my book, I would have wanted justice served before he had a chance to throw his damned red hat back in the ring. It's not the criminal process that's an issue, it's the political shitshow that surrounds him and masquerades as news. That's what may end up tipping the balance, and for due process to breathe life into that is problematic.

Count me as one of the whiners. I haven't a clue what could be done, if anything, to truly combat the Trump effect.

[emulatorloo]

8. FWIWSupreme Court has already ruled against a ton of his bullshit appeals. And pretty quickly too.

[Mr. Ected]

13. Oh, for sure. There's a myriad of suits against him, and one by one, through the court system

Appeals are made, adjudicated, ruled upon, appealed, adjudicated, ruled upon, appealed, all the way up to the Supremes. Rinse. Repeat.

I know there are no better legal alternatives, but that in itself is a crying shame.

[Evolve Dammit]

9. The criminal Orange Mob Boss is still in control. He has played it his whole life. "Glacial is right

[TomSlick]

14. There has been a raft of bad rulings for TFG recently.

This ruling should stand-up on appeal.

[Eyeball_Kid]

16. Will the Courts ever recognize that Trump is mocking all of them?

Judges should give these appeals top priority just to thwart Trump's tactics. Make decisions in days, not weeks.

[Justice matters.]

17. That appeal was from the DoJ wanting to get lawfully rid of the Qannon stooge's

Special Master ruling entirely. No choice but to get these ruled one by one.

Hair furhair's lawyers have 7 days to appeal it up the the Supremely corrupt (6) court.

[republianmushroom]

18. judge orders former top lawyers, why not just comply

You can always plead the 5th amendment.