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Polybius

(15,597 posts)
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 03:36 AM Oct 2022

Schumer: Georgia Senate race 'going downhill' but Pennsylvania debate 'didn't hurt us too much'

Source: CNN

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer expressed some concern Thursday over Democratic prospects in Georgia in the final weeks before the midterm elections, but he remained hopeful about Pennsylvania after the their nominee’s recent debate performance.

“The state where we’re going downhill is Georgia. It’s hard to believe that they will go for Herschel Walker,” the Democratic leader said of the Republican Senate nominee, adding later, “But our vote, our early turnout in Georgia is huge, huge.”

Of Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman’s high-stakes debate performance against Republican Mehmet Oz, Schumer said: “It looks like the debate didn’t hurt us too much in Pennsylvania … so that’s good.”

The overheard comments came during a conversation among Schumer, President Joe Biden and New York Gov. Kathy Hochul on the tarmac of Hancock Field Air National Guard Base in Syracuse, New York. Biden gave a speech in the state Thursday as part of his midterm closing message in which he painted Republicans as a threat to Americans’ pocketbooks.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/27/politics/schumer-georgia-pennsylvania-democrats-senate-midterms/index.html

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Schumer: Georgia Senate race 'going downhill' but Pennsylvania debate 'didn't hurt us too much' (Original Post) Polybius Oct 2022 OP
The Republican voting base is as much of a piece of shit as Walker and Trump are. cstanleytech Oct 2022 #1
I don't see how Georgia could be going downhill. Chicago1980 Oct 2022 #2
maybe an internal poll indicates it? pstokely Oct 2022 #3
Why would Shumer say this three days before election day SouthernDem4ever Oct 2022 #30
From what I gather, he meant his conversation to be private Polybius Oct 2022 #32
BULLSHIT!!!..and old news agingdem Oct 2022 #4
Probably based on internal polling. Kaleva Oct 2022 #5
You still don't broadcast it SouthernDem4ever Oct 2022 #31
CNN is right leaning now nowforever Oct 2022 #6
I watched the video of this and took it as Schumer being very positive underpants Oct 2022 #7
Early voting turnout is huge...that's the story.. agingdem Oct 2022 #8
Me too USAFRetired_Liberal Oct 2022 #12
Right. To me downhill is better than uphill underpants Oct 2022 #25
Yup.. Going uphill isn't pretty Roetdoe Oct 2022 #33
Oz's campaign should have ended with the 300 dead dogs Orrex Oct 2022 #9
like my mom used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say yaesu Oct 2022 #10
JFC Ferrets are Cool Oct 2022 #11
He meant in as a good thing USAFRetired_Liberal Oct 2022 #17
Well, if I can misinterpret it, how the hell are others going to hear this. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2022 #22
I am with you USAFRetired_Liberal Oct 2022 #24
JFC. Jersey fried chicken? twodogsbarking Oct 2022 #23
Why can't Schumer just stop about his election predictions if he can't say anything positive JohnSJ Oct 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author USAFRetired_Liberal Oct 2022 #14
He was actually being positive about Georgia USAFRetired_Liberal Oct 2022 #15
How the media previews/frames something is important. Fox is great at this. underpants Oct 2022 #26
Yep USAFRetired_Liberal Oct 2022 #28
So we should only tell the President "happy" news? All is well? brooklynite Oct 2022 #16
He actually meant Georgia was happy news USAFRetired_Liberal Oct 2022 #18
First of all, that was an "over heard conversation, which may not be accurate unless confirmed JohnSJ Oct 2022 #20
This was an overheard conversation which you can listen to personally... brooklynite Oct 2022 #27
Going downhill for Walker..... Chakaconcarne Oct 2022 #19
Democrats have an honest conversation Icanthinkformyself Oct 2022 #21
And, in fact, Walker's polling has inexplicably being going up this month William Seger Oct 2022 #29
I don't trust 538 nor most of these polls. LenaBaby61 Oct 2022 #34

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
2. I don't see how Georgia could be going downhill.
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 04:26 AM
Oct 2022

Shit talk like this is so annoying.

Dems can be their own worst enemy sometimes.

Polybius

(15,597 posts)
32. From what I gather, he meant his conversation to be private
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 12:23 PM
Oct 2022

However, he said it close enough to reporter that it was heard.

agingdem

(7,897 posts)
4. BULLSHIT!!!..and old news
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 05:38 AM
Oct 2022

I like Chuck but he is forever the voice of doom...he reminds me of my mother....BEWARE THE EVIL EYE!!!...

nowforever

(327 posts)
6. CNN is right leaning now
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 05:57 AM
Oct 2022

GOP talking points seem to be the starting point for most of their political talk. Now Republican mouthpieces out number Democrats when their round table discussions occur. Democratic politicians are immediately asked questions that seem right out of the GOP playbook. Neutral to them is highlighting Democratic missteps while allowing Republicans to spew their talking points without any pushback. It's quite sickening.

underpants

(183,265 posts)
7. I watched the video of this and took it as Schumer being very positive
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 06:11 AM
Oct 2022

Now Jen Psaki is on Morning Joe repeating the same theme as this article.
Schumer looked like he was reporting good news to Biden from my take.

agingdem

(7,897 posts)
8. Early voting turnout is huge...that's the story..
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 06:18 AM
Oct 2022

and that's the positive...Biden and Harris are going to Georgia next week..another boost..kinda looking forward to Chuck backtracking..

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
12. Me too
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 07:58 AM
Oct 2022

Downhill could be a negative or positive saying. And in this instance I think Schumer was saying it as a positive thing. Especially because of the body language and what was said after. He meant downhill as in it’s going to get easier the rest of the way due to early voting. Of course the media took it meaning the negative saying of downhill and ran with it.

Edit - the whole article is bad and the media really sucks and are bad at their job. Even the part about a seat being in danger. The writer states that it was unclear what state they were referring to. I heard the video and they are clearly talking about Arizona.

underpants

(183,265 posts)
25. Right. To me downhill is better than uphill
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 08:47 AM
Oct 2022

The closed caption on MSNBC said “down” but I heard downhill.

Orrex

(63,338 posts)
9. Oz's campaign should have ended with the 300 dead dogs
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 07:00 AM
Oct 2022

If Fetterman had done that, the media would be running it 24/7, until the party itself forced him to drop out for fear of damaging other races.

But with Oz? "Meh," says the press.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
10. like my mom used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 07:37 AM
Oct 2022

don't say anything at all, well, when it comes to your own party Chuck, & this close to the election.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
17. He meant in as a good thing
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 08:12 AM
Oct 2022

Downhill as in spending less energy and exertion, and becoming easier. Like when you are running and you can see victory and the finish line, people say it’s all downhill from here.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
24. I am with you
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 08:46 AM
Oct 2022

I think most are going to interpret it the way you did, especially the way the media initially framed it, heck I did too until I watched the video a few times. I honestly think he meant it as a positive, but he wasn’t that articulate. And even if he comes and and says “no, no that’s not what I meant” no one is going to believe him. Because now it’s ingrained in everyone’s head.

JohnSJ

(92,618 posts)
13. Why can't Schumer just stop about his election predictions if he can't say anything positive
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 07:59 AM
Oct 2022

What is the point?

Whenever a republican is being interviewed they go out of their way to bash the Democrats when asked about the midterms. Why can’t Schumer and some other Democrats respond the same way when asked about the midterms?

Response to JohnSJ (Reply #13)

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
15. He was actually being positive about Georgia
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 08:08 AM
Oct 2022

Maybe he could have more articulate, but I gather he meant downhill as things are going to get easier from here due to early voting. The media heard what they wanted and went the with the negative spin.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/be-all-downhill

underpants

(183,265 posts)
26. How the media previews/frames something is important. Fox is great at this.
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 08:52 AM
Oct 2022

Since you and I appear to be the only ones who read and heard what actually happened

Fox and talk radio TELL the audience what they are about to see or hear. That cements it in the consumers mind. It usually is completely opposite of what happened and serves to support their already established theme.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
28. Yep
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 09:00 AM
Oct 2022

Everyone always talks about how we are losing our democracy, I think the media (specifically the MSM) is a big reason why it’s happening.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
18. He actually meant Georgia was happy news
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 08:15 AM
Oct 2022

He essentially said that things are going bad in Arizona and it looks like it’s a uphill battle, things are getting better in Pennsylvania and Nevada and the line is flat, but things are great in Georgia and we are on cruise control….not in those words but that was what he was trying to get across on the video, the media interpreted it and spinned it the other way and ran with it

JohnSJ

(92,618 posts)
20. First of all, that was an "over heard conversation, which may not be accurate unless confirmed
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 08:33 AM
Oct 2022

by Schumer directly by himself, and being on the tarmac of the airport, makes it even more questionable regarding its accuracy or content

Second, Schumer is not an expert on Georgia politics, and the only thing the polls are indicating in Georgia is it will be close

The headline from CNN is also a misrepresentation

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217293242

brooklynite

(95,303 posts)
27. This was an overheard conversation which you can listen to personally...
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 08:59 AM
Oct 2022

And Schumer IS an expert on Senate campaign politics and has been for decades, back to when he won the Senate for Obama in 2008.


Icanthinkformyself

(224 posts)
21. Democrats have an honest conversation
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 08:39 AM
Oct 2022

rather than a Republican string of lies, misinformation and derogatory comments about their 'political enemy'. Schumer is being too cautious. Dems are going to sweep the GQP into the dustbin of history.

LenaBaby61

(6,982 posts)
34. I don't trust 538 nor most of these polls.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 02:18 AM
Oct 2022

Last edited Sat Oct 29, 2022, 02:50 AM - Edit history (1)

They have right-leaning rasmussen and trafalgar thrown in there into those polls. MOST of these news papers are right-winged, corporate, greedy for ad dollars and clicks that they got from the fat tReasonous one.

WHAT left-leaning big newspaper or media outlet is owned by liberals? Horse races, drams, slinging mess and anti-Dem sentiment is all these right-winged newspapers and television outlets are all about. Well, that ad buys, clicks and making those big ad dollars they miss with Pres. Biden, because he is not tReasonous tRump, thank God.

I live here in California, and would laugh my ass off when I saw articles here in California with some of these right-winged newspapers, and especially laughed out loud when I read where one off these right-winged news rags would say Newsom is in big trouble, and I forget which newspaper it was, but one called Uncle Larry "articulate, well-spoken, and can match Newsom's rhetoric." Other newspapers from outside states were talking bs as well, during last year's bogus recall vs Gavin Newsom:


538:


Gavin Newsom Has Reason To Worry.

Recent polls show the race is tightening and Republican voters are more energized.


It’s official: For only the fourth time in U.S. history, a state will hold an election on whether to recall its governor midterm. The long-expected gubernatorial recall election in California is set for Sept. 14, and 46 candidates (not including the governor himself, Democrat Gavin Newsom) have officially qualified to run. But perhaps the most intriguing development in the race has come in recent polling. After the recall looked uncompetitive for months, evidence has emerged that the race is tightening.

Until last week, there had been no new polls of the recall election in about a month. But since then, we’ve gotten two — and both showed Newsom in danger of being recalled. First, an Emerson College/Nexstar Media survey found that 48 percent of registered voters in California wanted to keep Newsom in office, while 43 percent wanted to recall him. Then, a poll from the University of California, Berkeley, Institute of Governmental Studies co-sponsored by the Los Angeles Times found that 50 percent of likely recall voters wanted to keep Newsom and 47 percent wanted to oust him. These fresh polls — both within the margin of error — differed markedly from a handful of surveys released in May and June that found the recall effort trailing by at least 10 percentage points.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/gavin-newsom-has-reason-to-worry/


Not that this article has anything to do with this year's mid-terms.

I'm just putting this out there as food for thought.

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