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BumRushDaShow

(129,106 posts)
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 11:49 AM Jul 2022

Jury begins deliberations in Steve Bannon contempt trial

Source: Washington Post

A jury in D.C. federal court has begun deliberating the contempt of Congress charges against former Trump adviser Stephen K. Bannon, who is accused of ignoring a subpoena from the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6. 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

“This case is not complicated, but it is important,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Molly Gaston told jurors in closing arguments Friday. “It is important because our government only works if people show up. It only works if people play by the rules.”

Bannon’s defense lawyer countered that the subpoena was illegitimate and politically motivated, and that the deadlines for Bannon to comply were merely “placeholders” for further negotiation. Bannon “didn’t intentionally refuse to comply with a subpoena. Absolutely not. He didn’t intentionally refuse to comply with anything,” defense lawyer M. Evan Corcoran said.

Prosecutors said Bannon just refused to speak to the committee, akin to a person who received a parking ticket deciding not to pay or fight it, but just ignore it. “He did not want to answer its questions,” Gaston said. "And when it really comes down to it, he did not want to recognize Congress’s authority or play by the government’s rules.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/07/22/bannon-january-6-trial-friday/

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Jury begins deliberations in Steve Bannon contempt trial (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 OP
Should take about an hour to convict. calguy Jul 2022 #1
And, if it takes over two hours, expect a hung jury. Chainfire Jul 2022 #13
I hope judge gived max penalties TODAY SheltieLover Jul 2022 #2
It doesn't work that way. Ocelot II Jul 2022 #4
Ty for explaining. SheltieLover Jul 2022 #7
I understand, but it all just goes to "show" grumpyduck Jul 2022 #10
The law is supposed to apply equally to everyone, so if the law says Ocelot II Jul 2022 #12
If he gets convicted, they usually schedule a separate date for sentencing BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #5
Oh I'm sure he will appeal. SheltieLover Jul 2022 #8
He'll be appealing and unappealing simultaneously. n/t Harker Jul 2022 #14
True SheltieLover Jul 2022 #15
... Harker Jul 2022 #16
"...he did not want to recognize Congress's authority or play by the government's rules." grumpyduck Jul 2022 #3
+++ agree. n/t iluvtennis Jul 2022 #6
If the jury is out for an extended period, gab13by13 Jul 2022 #9
Or it just means that the jury is conscientiously considering all the evidence. Ocelot II Jul 2022 #11
I was on a jury that on our initial vote Raftergirl Jul 2022 #17
It's been three hours Aviation Pro Jul 2022 #18
There is one possibility BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #21
BOOM BOOM CONVICTED ON BOTH CHARGES BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #22
Glad to admit my wrongness and pessimism Aviation Pro Jul 2022 #24
He needs more than that! BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #25
Evidently not, since he was convicted on all counts. Ocelot II Jul 2022 #23
Reminds me of a title of the Clint Eastwood movie..... what was it? .................... 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #19
At least the liar -- sorry, lawyer fees will be heavy. 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #20

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
2. I hope judge gived max penalties TODAY
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 11:53 AM
Jul 2022

Judge has had plenty of time go consider it.

Delouse him & throw him in gen population.

Ocelot II

(115,735 posts)
4. It doesn't work that way.
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 12:02 PM
Jul 2022

The contempt of Congress statute carries a range of penalties, so the judge is likely to request a presentence investigation and hearing, and he will apply the federal sentencing guidelines. Usually a sentencing hearing takes place some weeks following a verdict, and if convicted Bannon is certain to appeal during that time.

grumpyduck

(6,240 posts)
10. I understand, but it all just goes to "show"
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 12:33 PM
Jul 2022

that refusing a subpoena doesn't mean all that much, therefore subpoenas don't mean all that much. Kinda makes the whole thing look like a joke to magat assholes.

As far as appealing, I would expect anyone found guilty of anything to appeal. It's part of the process.

Ocelot II

(115,735 posts)
12. The law is supposed to apply equally to everyone, so if the law says
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 12:52 PM
Jul 2022

he's entitled to a presentence investigation and a sentencing hearing, then that's what will happen, and it's what should happen.

BumRushDaShow

(129,106 posts)
5. If he gets convicted, they usually schedule a separate date for sentencing
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 12:07 PM
Jul 2022

and I expect he would appeal in any case.

grumpyduck

(6,240 posts)
3. "...he did not want to recognize Congress's authority or play by the government's rules."
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 11:54 AM
Jul 2022

Not being a lawyer, I'd say that pretty much covers it.

Ocelot II

(115,735 posts)
11. Or it just means that the jury is conscientiously considering all the evidence.
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 12:50 PM
Jul 2022

But there isn't much evidence beyond what the prosecution presented; it's Friday and they'd probably rather be done with it before the weekend.

Raftergirl

(1,287 posts)
17. I was on a jury that on our initial vote
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 01:45 PM
Jul 2022

we all agreed defendant was guilty. This was before any deliberation. But, we didn’t notify the Judge we had reached a verdict for another hour at least. We decided to have lunch on the county, too.

After we gave our verdict and we were excused all the prosecutors and the police who testified told us how grateful they were for our verdict and that they weren’t allowed to bring in all the defendants previous bad deeds and he was a really bad guy.

BumRushDaShow

(129,106 posts)
21. There is one possibility
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jul 2022

and that is since there were 2 charges - I think one to "appear" and the other "to produce documents", it's obvious that he produced no documents so that would be an easier one to solve.

But the "appear" one might be muddied because he suddenly offered to "show up" just days before the trial, and that could be a bone of contention regarding whether that was sincere and "responsive" (we know it was not) or just a bullshit move (which it was but they might give him the benefit of the doubt).

Ocelot II

(115,735 posts)
23. Evidently not, since he was convicted on all counts.
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 03:20 PM
Jul 2022

The thing about juries is that if they're sent out for deliberations before lunch, they'll want their free lunch on the government. Another thing that takes time is the administrative stuff - selecting a foreperson and reviewing the instructions. Three hours isn't long at all.

3Hotdogs

(12,391 posts)
19. Reminds me of a title of the Clint Eastwood movie..... what was it? ....................
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 02:43 PM
Jul 2022

Oh, yeah. "Hang 'em High."

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