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brooklynite

(95,076 posts)
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:21 PM Jul 2022

Flights halted as runways melt and temperatures exceed 38C in parts of England

Source: The Guardian


Luton airport has been temporarily shut to flights following a runway defect – believed to be due to the record temperatures. Flights that took off earlier today destined for Luton have been diverted to alternative airports such as Stansted. Passengers on an EasyJet flight from Catania in Sicily were told by the captain that they were unable to land at Luton because parts of the runway had effectively melted.


Flying activity was also halted at RAF Brize Norton, with Sky News reporting that part of the runway had melted.


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2022/jul/18/uk-weather-heatwave-met-office-warning-forecast-temperature-london-schools-latest-updates
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Flights halted as runways melt and temperatures exceed 38C in parts of England (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2022 OP
Denialists: "Runways have ALWAYS melted at Luton!" Grokenstein Jul 2022 #1
+1 dalton99a Jul 2022 #3
Talk to Manchin efhmc Jul 2022 #2
38C... isn't that just 100.5F? truthisfreedom Jul 2022 #4
Asphalt in a country where the record, set 3 years ago, is 101.7F muriel_volestrangler Jul 2022 #5
Asphalt that is formulated for lower expected temperatures. NullTuples Jul 2022 #12
What they said above + paleotn Jul 2022 #13
Melting or buckling? There's a difference... Model35mech Jul 2022 #6
There is some irony in this. first of all, England has historically enjoyed mild temperatures. Their Martin68 Jul 2022 #7
If the Gulf Stream and North Atlantic currents shut down, they are goners FakeNoose Jul 2022 #9
Climate change reality strikes a conservative-led country. ananda Jul 2022 #8
Meanwhile, Ireland records it's highest temperature in over a century sheepfarm Jul 2022 #10
Not so hot screamcheese Jul 2022 #11
But it's the UK, much farther North and classically a mild Maritime Climate in the Kppen system. NutmegYankee Jul 2022 #14
Wow. It's almost hot enough in England to actually cook their "bacon". LudwigPastorius Jul 2022 #15
How about a warning Casady1 Jul 2022 #16
Imagine being 21 years old, on tour in the UK with a band, and horribly hungover, when... LudwigPastorius Jul 2022 #17
When tea and toast with jam just won't do the job IronLionZion Jul 2022 #18
What are those black circle shape things ? JI7 Jul 2022 #19
Probably black pudding, though it might be haggis muriel_volestrangler Jul 2022 #20
They're not Oreos, that's for sure. LudwigPastorius Jul 2022 #21

Grokenstein

(5,731 posts)
1. Denialists: "Runways have ALWAYS melted at Luton!"
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 02:17 PM
Jul 2022

"This is completely normal! Just relax and have some ice cream!"

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
12. Asphalt that is formulated for lower expected temperatures.
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 05:35 PM
Jul 2022

Also, the asphalt gets a bit hotter than the air temperature.

paleotn

(18,015 posts)
13. What they said above +
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 06:29 PM
Jul 2022

Design parameters. The conditions when the asphalt is laid (temp), plus conditions expected during its lifetime are taking into account with respect to asphalt binder viscosity. Some of these roads, tarmacs etc. were laid in the 70's / 80's and before. 100+ F in the UK wasn't even an extreme possibility back then. Trying making taffy in a freezer. You'll want something with such low viscosity at freezer temps, it will be a puddle at room temperature. Extreme, but the same concept.

Model35mech

(1,602 posts)
6. Melting or buckling? There's a difference...
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 03:36 PM
Jul 2022

CNN says the runway 'lifted', which sounds like buckling to me. Buckling occurs when heat causes roadways/runways to expand, the result of sections pushing against each other is to lift/buckle segments of the roadway/runway

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/uk-airport-suspends-flights-amid-melting-runway-reports/index.html

When I was a kid in the 60's this was a common problem on Chicago expressways. The buckled/popped uproadway damaged cars and impeded traffic.

It is also possible for 'hot air' to become a problem with planes ability to develop lifting forces, not a problem with runways at all, but rather a problem with heated and 'thinned' air not creating the usual lift at speeds for take-off.

I'm not sure what's going on, but it isn't good for British air-travel.

Martin68

(22,986 posts)
7. There is some irony in this. first of all, England has historically enjoyed mild temperatures. Their
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 03:42 PM
Jul 2022

houses and usually not air conditioned, and they've been built to conserve heat, not keep them cool. Secondly, if global warming proceeds to disrupt the ocean currents that warm Britain, as some scientists have hypothesized, England could subsequently turn into a very cold place. Like, "out of the frying pan and into the icy crevasse."

FakeNoose

(32,917 posts)
9. If the Gulf Stream and North Atlantic currents shut down, they are goners
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:04 PM
Jul 2022

The UK, the Scandinavian countries, and much of northern Europe depend on those warm currents to keep their temps moderate. Without the warming currents, middle and northern Europe would freeze up in a matter of hours. It would bring on an instant Ice Age.

ananda

(28,926 posts)
8. Climate change reality strikes a conservative-led country.
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 03:51 PM
Jul 2022

And btw, climate change has never been a matter of belief.

It's always been a cold, hard reality since the 70's.

But conservatives and fossil fuel companies have been
managing the message and owning the politicians and
courts that have kept mitigation in check.

They even kept mass transit in check here in the USA.

I remember that Humble Oil bought up all the tire
manufacturing that they would only allow on cars
and not buses.

Tom Delay kept mass transit from happening in Texas
too.

sheepfarm

(38 posts)
10. Meanwhile, Ireland records it's highest temperature in over a century
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:32 PM
Jul 2022

...at 33.0C (91.4F) and only 0.3C below the all time record.

Highest temp in over a century as mercury hits 33C in Dublin

A temperature of 33C was reported from the weather station at Phoenix Park in Dublin at 1pm today, Met Éireann has said.

This is a provisional report but, if confirmed, it will be the highest temperature ever recorded in Ireland in July and breaks the high temperature records for the 21st and 20th century.

The highest temperature ever reported in Ireland was 33.3C at Kilkenny Castle in 1887. Met Éireann said this record stands but some have called in recent years for it be reassessed.

Meanwhile, many Met Éireann weather stations have recorded temperatures of over 30C today including in Mullingar, Co Westmeath, Oak Park in Co Carlow and Dunsany in Co Meath.


https://www.rte.ie/news/weather/2022/0718/1310766-weather/

NutmegYankee

(16,207 posts)
14. But it's the UK, much farther North and classically a mild Maritime Climate in the Kppen system.
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 06:46 PM
Jul 2022

These are extremely unusual temps for them.

On Edit: Apparently the title block hates umlauts. Kppen = Köppen climate classification system.

LudwigPastorius

(9,277 posts)
17. Imagine being 21 years old, on tour in the UK with a band, and horribly hungover, when...
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 10:54 PM
Jul 2022

that comes out to greet you for breakfast.

I can. (good times...)

IronLionZion

(45,682 posts)
18. When tea and toast with jam just won't do the job
Tue Jul 19, 2022, 09:48 AM
Jul 2022

ugh, I don't think I could eat a full English fry up without being horribly hungover

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