Screams, threats as New Mexico counties try to certify vote

[Omaha Steve]

Source: AP

By SUSAN MONTOYA BRYAN and MORGAN LEE

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — Deep-seated conspiracy theories about the security of voting machines erupted into heated, angry and at times threatening outbursts Friday as New Mexico counties decided whether to certify results from their recent primary, underscoring the depths of an election crisis that officials fear is foreshadowing darker times ahead for the nation’s democracy.

In one politically conservative county, angry residents greeted their three commissioners with screams and vitriol as they met to consider certification. As the visibly frustrated Torrance County commissioners indicated they were going to vote to certify their election, the audience shouted “Shame on you,” “cowards and traitors,” and “Who elected you?”

The commissioners pleaded with the audience for patience and said concerns about alleged election vulnerabilities eventually would be addressed.

“The time and place to fight this battle is not by canvassing this election,” Chairman Ryan Schwebach told the crowd.



FILE - Otero County, N.M., Commissioner Couy Griffin stands outside the federal court after receiving a verdict in his trial on March 22, 2022 in Washington. New Mexico’s secretary of state asked the state's Supreme Court on Tuesday, June 14, 2022, to order the Republican-led commission of rural Otero County to certify primary election results after it refused to do so over distrust of Dominion vote-tallying machines. (AP Photo/Gemunu Amarasinghe, File)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-new-mexico-government-and-politics-donald-trump-fa26178d77b421ff7317d1a6ae83e0c4

[Lovie777]

1. My gawd . . .

these people are nuts.

[Rebl2]

2. Why would

there be an audience and seems they should have called police there ahead of time if there was going to be an audience.

[NullTuples]

34. The CSPOA police?

[smb]

52. The Gazpacho Police? nt

[onecaliberal]

3. Can we drop all of these people in Siberia to govern themselves?

[Rebl2]

38. Fine by me

[Xolodno]

65. Siberia is a "nice" place.

The "frozen wasteland" moniker is misleading. Its one of the most bio-diverse areas of the world and rich in resources, nor is it fully explored. They would ruin all of it.

And we shouldn't export our problems, send them to Centralia, PA instead...it is basically a product of their views.

But if that won't do and we have to export...then I vote for Wittenoom, Australia.

[LiberalFighter]

4. If it is rural and conservative county...

wouldn't that mean most if not all winners are Republican?

[localroger]

14. It's over a Republican primary

None of these contests are even between Republicans and Democrats. This is what happens when the monster you created bursts out of your control.

[C Moon]

29. Yes

[Frostlight]

44. It is well-deserved too.

They never seem to understand that they can't have their cake and eat it too. They never consider the ramifications of the twisted precedents they set or how they could backfire.

I have zero sympathy for them.

[NJCher]

50. yes, because they are short-term thinkers

Whatever they do supplies immediate gratification (in this case, trump got people to believe the election was fraudulent and he did so without any backup whatsoever. He then parlayed that into $250 million). They never think it through; they never consider what the ramifications of their actions might be.

I think it does take a bit of imagination to understand how this might turn on you, but not much. Apparently even a little imagination is beyond them.

[SergeStorms]

54. Except when it comes to a woman's choice....

of having control over her own body.

They've been working on that for 40+ years.

[newdayneeded]

59. Yes, but even with that...

Blacks and other minorities will not be able to afford an out of state trip for an abortion like most white women. So their short thinking will greatly increase minority populations. This is their greatest fear, and they'll play right into it because of their stupidity.

[Frostlight]

56. That's exactly correct...

Due to their neural architecture, conservatives are wired for pre-civilization survival. Back when fear was our greatest tool for survival, imagination was something of a hinderance. Abstract concepts or knowing the orbital mechanics of planets didn't put 'food on the family', so they weren't only superfluous, but spending even a minute thinking of such things was a liability.

We've found that this results in 'low effort thinking'. So much so that anything more complex than a kitchen table budget is completely beyond them.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167212439213

"The ends justify the means" is their idea of an 'expedient solution', but they can't wrap their heads around the concept that 'the ends are the offspring of the means'.

They literally can't understand HOW to think beyond 2 dimensions.
https://bsbuzzsaw.com/2021/12/04/science-faith-why-conservatives-cant-tell-the-difference/

[Srkdqltr]

5. Who names their kid Couy?

[Efilroft Sul]

6. Somebody who had a bouy.

[dchill]

11. And not a gouyirl. Definitely not a gouyirl!

[Efilroft Sul]

13. LOL. Cowbuoys for Trump think gouyirls are icky.

[dchill]

19. That seems likely.

[erronis]

39. Keeping with the motif (now called meme): cowguys think cowgirls are Licky.

Actually, since most of these "guy" types are actual or wannabe incels, they probably reserve their lickiness to other cowguys.

And that's totally ok with me! Just don't look for any sugar-daddy round here. You'll get a load of rock salt at high velocity.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. ...

I'm glad I wasn't sipping my coffee for real when I saw this....

[Captain Zero]

43. you win DU this week

[VGNonly]

17. Even cowgouls

get the blouls.

[Srkdqltr]

26. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

[C_U_L8R]

7. What dorks.

How did we become so dumb.

[bottomofthehill]

12. Home schooling

[NullTuples]

36. They're not "dumb", they're entitled. The GOP released all their shackles.

What possible shackles could white, American Christians have, you ask?

A: Being expected to act like adults who are a functional part of a larger society.

Quite a drug for some, not having to rein themselves in for the good of everyone.

[dai13sy]

49. Dorks

My husband and I ask ourselves that question all the time. Our version "How do you get to be that old and still be that stupid?" Both your question and mine demand an answer. I'm still waiting. You?

[onetexan]

61. You mean ORCS, as in those vile creatures in Lord of the Rings?

The riled up aggressive behavior of thos RW crowd is what they remind me of - the orcs.

[C_U_L8R]

62. D'orcs.

[onetexan]

63. 😄

good one

[Stuart G]

8. K & R

[ancianita]

9. Screaming threats should be charged as assault, and the citizen removed from a public venue.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

45. +1

[patphil]

10. Just another piece of the Trump legacy...distrust and hate.

[JohnnyRingo]

15. Dominion will be using this against Rudy....

...Pillow Guy, and probably Trump.
Just ammo for those billion dollar lawsuits.

[2Gingersnaps]

25. Dominion is about to own a YUGE hunk of OAN.

My heart breaks for them.

[OrangeJoe]

37. My thoughts exactly

Does anyone know the timeline of the Dominion suits against the various individuals and news networks which defamed them?

[TheRealNorth]

16. Republicans are doing a "Test run"

For nullifying elections. If Republicans accept nullification for Republican primaries, they will surly accept nullifying Democratic wins in general elections.

[sagetea]

22. yup.

my first thought.

sage

[hadEnuf]

23. If Republicans start nullifying elections

the we are defacto at war and they are the enemy.

[alwaysinasnit]

40. +1000

[duhneece]

20. It's a nightmare here right now

Couy voted not to certify. The other two commissioners voted to certify. One gave as her reason: she could be removed and replaced by Governor and she is here for the ranchers.
My friend was just thrown out (forcibly removed by Sheriff) for voicing his opinion… as the minority opinion.
We have a Democratic candidate for County Commissioner. More about Stephanie DuBois in near future.

[SharonClark]

27. "She's there for the ranchers"?

Was is that suppose to mean?

[womanofthehills]

64. The ranchers graze cattle on federal land - so regulations come into play

Local government vs state and federal decisions.

[Quixote1818]

28. Which candidate / election are they upset about? Just one or everything? nt

[duhneece]

30. All. They were sold a lie that our Nov 2020 election was full of fraudulent votes

It was really about a grifter making $300,000 on the ‘Christian go fund me’ site by convincing them not to certify (in the end, two out of three DID certify)

[paleotn]

21. Need to crack down on these people....

Make some high profile convictions with long sentences. That will give the lunatics a moment of pause.

[moose65]

24. Jesus Effin Christ

What did these people think had happened? I've read several articles about this and I still have no idea what they alleged had happened. What about the candidates? Did someone concede? Or are they just throwing stuff against the wall hoping it will stick??

As many have said: these people are NUTS.

[Mblaze]

31. I wonder

If that C4T on his collar means Couy for Trump? It seems elementary level enough to be true.

[ShazzieB]

42. I think it means "Cowboys for Trump."

He's the founder of that. Whatever it is.

[Mblaze]

60. I'm sure you're right.

[QED]

32. Sentenced to 14 days and a $3000 fine

"At Griffin’s sentencing Friday, McFadden noted the “tension” between Griffin’s professed remorse in the courtroom and his numerous public statements after his conviction. But the judge said very few people who didn’t enter the Capitol on Jan. 6 were charged, and sentenced Griffin to 14 days in jail and a $3,000 fine. Griffin already served 20 days in jail upon his arrest last year, so he was released Friday.

After his sentencing, Griffin implored reporters to follow up on discredited conspiracy theories about the Capitol doors mysteriously opening on Jan. 6, an Arizona man falsely accused of being an FBI agitator in the crowd, and the possibility that voting machines in New Mexico might be electronically hacked. He said he would participate in an Otero County commission meeting later Friday by phone to refuse to certify a recent election until the voting machines are inspected.

Federal prosecutors had pointed out that the secretary of state in New Mexico has asked for a criminal investigation into Griffin’s actions in refusing to certify the primary election there. An online fundraiser for Griffin has also raised nearly $50,000."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/06/17/couy-griffin-sentenced/

[TomSlick]

33. What's with the C4T on his shirt collar?

My guess is Cowboys for Trump.

[ornotna]

35. Maybe this

https://www.texasagriculture.gov/GrantsServices/GrantsandServices/CapitalforTexasC4T.aspx

The Texas Department of Agriculture (TDA) is working with Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFI), to lend and manage funds allocated to TDA for its Capital for Texas Program (C4T).

[LetMyPeopleVote]

41. For this thread

Link to tweet

[ejbr]

46. What brats

Children. They're children.

[KS Toronado]

47. Kinda fun watching Rs battle the monster they created

The writings on the wall what we can expect in all future elections because of voting machines vulnerabilities.
And in this day and age of computers hackers it's only going to get worse.

Time we had a national mail-in ballot system country wide. Plus it would help our side more,IMHO.

[LiberalFighter]

48. If they don't certify don't they admit their own approved machines are rigged?

[TrogL]

51. All hat no saddle

[NJCher]

53. and WTH

is that "prosecute Fauci" cap doing there? As if these people needed any further credentials that they are certifiable.

BTW, thank you duhneece, for the local input.

[duhneece]

55. They are, indeed, certifiable but powerful

I’m grateful for DU support and recognizing the danger here. It feels like ground zero.
We recruited a good Democratic candidate for County Commissioner. I’m giving her campaign all I’ve got..along with trying to get rid of M Greene’s buddy, our Congresswoman Yvette Herrell.

[brooklynite]

57. Am I to assume the people ranting didn't vote?

If they don't trust Dominion machines, why would they?

[BootinUp]

58. Their town has turned into shit. Watch