Family: 5 shot during funeral at Graceland Cemetery in Racine
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Source: WTMJ - Milwaukee, WI
Family: 5 shot during funeral at Graceland Cemetery in Racine
TMJ4 Web Staff
RACINE, Wis. A suspect shot and injured five people during a funeral at Graceland Cemetery in Racine Thursday afternoon, family tells TMJ4 News. Racine police described the shooting as a "critical" incident and urged people to stay away. Police said multiple shots were fired, that there are victims but their conditions are unknown. The scene is still active and being investigated, police said.
The Draeger-Langendorf Funeral Home and Crematory confirms to TMJ4 News that a funeral during that time was for Da'Shontay L. King Sr. The worker at the funeral home said King's family members were hit. All funeral home staff are OK, they said.
Family previously identified Da'Shontay King Sr. as the man who a Racine police officer shot and killed near 12th and Schiller on March 20. Police said then that an officer attempted a traffic stop for a firearms investigation. Police said King got out of the vehicle armed with a firearm. The officer ordered the suspect to stop and comply with commands, but he refused, police said. The officer opened fire. King was pronounced dead at the scene.
Read more: https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/critical-incident-at-graceland-cemetery-large-police-presence
secondwind
(16,903 posts)rurallib
(62,483 posts)what "safe" place would be next. My guess was gay pride parades this weekend.
Funerals - holy crap!
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Family members with grudges and emotions.
rurallib
(62,483 posts)electric_blue68
(15,031 posts)it's not...
stranger danger which is what Buffalo, and Uvalde were.
Irish_Dem
(48,097 posts)If we continue on this trajectory, where does it take us?
elias7
(4,037 posts)Irish_Dem
(48,097 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)It may be easy to lose sight of the fact that with some 330M people, there is a high probability that a large number of them are going to do horrible things on any given day.
"News" reports the unusual, noteworthy and dramatic interactions among those 330M people, and gives us a distorted idea of what is "normal" to the overwhelming majority of them on any given day.
Catastrophizing from these unusual incidents to moan the imminent collapse of society has been a popular human pastime for literally thousands of years.
Irish_Dem
(48,097 posts)So do public health officials.
Gun violence is the leading cause of death in young people now.
Where does this take us in the future?
It is a legitimate question.
I didn't bring up societal collapse, but it is interesting that it was mentioned in your post. Perhaps that is something to consider as a possibility.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Gun violence in the US surpassed car accidents as the leading cause of death.
That is against the backdrop of an overall drop in mortality from all causes since 1950.
This is an "all cause" study of youth mortality from different global regions (some of which have been in armed conflict for a while) from which you might consider different trajectories:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01546-4/fulltext
Global, regional, and national mortality among young people aged 1024 years, 19502019: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2019
Globally, 32·7% of deaths in young people aged 1024 years in 2019 were due to transport injuries, unintentional injuries, or interpersonal violence or conflict; 32·1% were due to communicable, nutritional, or maternal causes; 27·0% were due to non-communicable diseases; and 8·2% were due to self-harm. However, there was large variation in the leading causes of adolescent death by GBD super-region, sex, and age. In males aged 1014 years, the most common cause of death was unintentional injury in all GBD super-regions except high income, where neoplasms were the leading cause of death, and south Asia and sub-Saharan Africa, where enteric infections were the leading cause of death, and North Africa and Middle East where this was transport injuries. In males aged 1524 years, the most common cause of death was transport injury in all GBD super-regions except Latin America and the Caribbean, where the leading cause of death was interpersonal violence and conflict, and central Europe, eastern Europe and central Asia, where the leading cause of death was self-harm (appendix 1, figures S50S112).
So, if you are looking for a model where interpersonal violence and conflict remains the leading cause of death for a long time among young people, then you want to look at Latin America and the Caribbean.
First, all-cause mortality has been on a decline since 1950 in all regions:
Genocidal wars, like the Rwandan conflict, stick out dramatically in those graphs. Rwanda was one of the most violent places on earth during that period, and is now a place you can visit and be safer than in most US cities.
In places with sustained conditions where interpersonal violence remains, again with overall declining mortality, the leading cause of death, there is a huge difference in "what kills young men" versus "what kills young women" reflected in these two charts:
Again, looking at Latin America and the Caribbean, you can see that interpersonal violence is responsible for what looks like around 50% of deaths of young males, and only around 10% of deaths of young females.
So, maybe one consequence of the trajectory is that one winds up with more adult females than adult males, if other causes of death continue to decline.
Once that happens to a great enough extent, it could be that a lopsided female majority population enacts social control measures in which violence is more effectively controlled, and the system self-regulates. Who knows.
NickB79
(19,301 posts)Don't be so quick to discount it. Even if not nationwide, large swathes of this country will be unliveable in 40 years, and refugees will be moving by the tens of millions
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)HuskyOffset
(892 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)There are some other numbers and charts in the paper, along with an explanation of how they divvied it up.
Zeitghost
(3,896 posts)It's horrible. But it's now #1 in large part because cars got much, much safer in the last 50 years.
There has been a recent uptick in violent crime the last 2 years, but the general trend for the past few decades has been down.
msongs
(67,502 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Score-settling at funerals is not limited to the United States.
While the rate of gun deaths in the US is outstandingly high compared to other countries of comparable wealth, there are countries with higher rates of death from gun violence. The US does not rank in the top ten.
If you mean firearm homicides generally, we don't come close to some other countries:
Also, those gun deaths in the US are not evenly distributed:
There is a dramatic difference in one's risk of gun violence between living below the Mason-Dixon Line and living above it.
electric_blue68
(15,031 posts)Woah look at those mostly Deep South States, except DC.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)I wouldnt have thought there was a 10x difference from top to bottom.
As usual with damn near anything - red states.
barbtries
(28,824 posts)but with technology.
i often dream of getting out of this country, but i'm old, my kids aren't ready to do it yet. so i'll stay. what i hate is they will be left with the worst of it. love, debbie downer (they're also the ones who will fix it if it is to be fixed, and it grieves me that my generation has done such a shit job)
japple
(9,850 posts)keep count anymore.
Hekate
(91,042 posts)oldsoftie
(12,674 posts)Not random at all at first glance; but we'll see what they come up with hopefully sooner than later
barbtries
(28,824 posts)perhaps it was unjustified. makes me wonder who might have wanted to knock off his loved ones.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)...is an association of people who did not choose to be associated, in contrast to "friends".
That is why holiday gatherings, weddings and funerals drive a lot of conflict.
Have you ever read postings on DU around Thanksgiving time? First, there is the dread of having to get together with the despised in-law, cousin or what-have you. Then, there are the after-action reports of all the dreadful things that people did or said to one another. Awful stuff.
Farmer-Rick
(10,242 posts)South American juntas have been doing it since Kissinger seated Pinochet in Chile.
They murder a charismatic and successful liberal politician then start shooting/killing the funeral attendees. That way they get to murder not only the opposition leader but a lot of the liberal leader's followers and second lieutenants. It's a win-win tactic for the right wing, especially when they get the right wing controlled media to make the funeral shootings sound like angry family having a feud.
jimfields33
(16,145 posts)Somethings going on.
hack89
(39,171 posts)who was shot by the cops. Why would the right wing want to then kill his family? Isn't it more likely it was a gang or family feud?
Farmer-Rick
(10,242 posts)Funeral shootings have also been a gang activity in the past.
And sometimes the right wing hires the gangs.
It's hard to tell.
Archae
(46,377 posts)Racine is a "drug stop" between Milwaukee and Chicago, so gang activity is pretty common there.
There's been more gang activity lately here in Sheboygan, and Manitowoc, since the two towns are between Milwaukee and Green Bay.
LeftInTX
(25,812 posts)But this guy did not seem like Mafia-level to me...
Just another day in America...
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)There's one cemetery which has had quite a few, and neighbors stay indoors when one is going on.
sanatanadharma
(3,761 posts)The story is being carried by one of the Montevideo evening TV news shows.
As were also the Buffalo and Uvalde insanity. The US news makes the local death by gun problem seem smaller.
Swede
(33,323 posts)As the GOP might say.
lostnfound
(16,203 posts)As the GOP might say.
Evolve Dammit
(16,818 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,818 posts)Jimbo S
(2,961 posts)Racine is going the way of Milwaukee, unfortunately.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)wnylib
(21,797 posts)is just being held in June?
Even if the ground is too frozen for burial, the funeral is usually held within a few days of the death and the body is buried privately later when it's possible. Maybe a week delay for forensics and autopsy since the death involved a cop. But a 2 or 3 month delay?
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,501 posts)From Racine newspaper:
See: https://journaltimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/update-two-people-were-shot-at-graceland-cemetery-in-broad-daylight-thursday/article_e48bee06-e2d3-11ec-b634-03d04d0f2846.html
KY
wnylib
(21,797 posts)Response to PSPS (Original post)
JudyM This message was self-deleted by its author.
Title and facts no longer match: 2 people shot, no fatalities. Okay to repost, updated, in GD if youd like.