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Jose Garcia

(2,595 posts)
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 11:23 AM Apr 2022

Supreme Court rules Congress can deny federal disability benefits to residents of Puerto Rico

Source: CNBC

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Congress is not required to extend a federal disability benefits program to residents of Puerto Rico.

The court ruled 8-1 that because Congress treats Puerto Rico residents differently from those residing in the states when it comes to tax laws, it can do the same when it comes to the Supplemental Income Security, or SSI, benefits program.

Justice Sonia Sotomayor, one of the court's three liberals whose family stems from Puerto Rico, dissented.

SSI benefits are meant to offer regular financial assistance for disabled and elderly people in need. The program is available to people living in the 50 U.S. states, but not to those living in some U.S. territories.

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/04/21/supreme-court-rules-congress-can-deny-federal-disability-benefits-to-residents-of-puerto-rico.html



Wow. Even two of the court's three liberal justices sided with the Biden Administration on this.
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Supreme Court rules Congress can deny federal disability benefits to residents of Puerto Rico (Original Post) Jose Garcia Apr 2022 OP
American Citizens? Pachamama Apr 2022 #1
They do not pay federal taxes. jimfields33 Apr 2022 #10
Do they pay social security tax? Sucha NastyWoman Apr 2022 #23
SSI money comes from the general fund. Not from SS tax Kaleva Apr 2022 #25
Yes and when they turn 67 or whatever age it will be, they'll get it. jimfields33 Apr 2022 #30
Then I don't think they should be entitled to SSI Sucha NastyWoman Apr 2022 #32
Agreed jimfields33 Apr 2022 #33
Except when there's a war and a draft. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #12
I served with a lot of soldiers from Puerto Rico and US territories AZProgressive Apr 2022 #18
They are able to vote today. Calista241 Apr 2022 #31
They cannot vote for President bluevoter4life Apr 2022 #34
You are correct. My mistake. Calista241 Apr 2022 #35
All good bluevoter4life Apr 2022 #36
Congress CAN deny disability benefits seems proper, unless they say Congress must deny benefits. Hoyt Apr 2022 #2
money. Ray Bruns Apr 2022 #8
is this fair? llashram Apr 2022 #3
SSI is not funded from the Social Security trust fund payroll tax Thunderbeast Apr 2022 #5
appreciate this llashram Apr 2022 #6
Can they get Rebl2 Apr 2022 #7
PR citizens pay FICA taxes Thunderbeast Apr 2022 #16
Thanks elleng Apr 2022 #11
Then why should Puerto Ricans pay in? LiberalFighter Apr 2022 #4
They don't. That was the point. Ray Bruns Apr 2022 #9
Maybe They Should Consider Applying For Statehood modrepub Apr 2022 #13
Maybe they should ask Canada if they're interested. Vinca Apr 2022 #15
That might just be... 2naSalit Apr 2022 #28
I'd Be Surprised If Canada Would Want Them modrepub Apr 2022 #29
GOP would fight having potentially two more democratic senators Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #27
Whenever it's an 8-1 vote, the dissenter is always either Thomas or Sotomayor Polybius Apr 2022 #14
Her parents were born in Puerto Rico AZProgressive Apr 2022 #17
One more reason to apply for statehood. nt pnwmom Apr 2022 #19
Its a simple tax issue, rather than a racial one... brooklynite Apr 2022 #20
I do not like the ruling however its probably the legally correct one so Puerto Rico cstanleytech Apr 2022 #21
IMO. we should allow all gladium et scutum Apr 2022 #22
The economy of PR would probably crash if it became independent Kaleva Apr 2022 #26
Fourth option IbogaProject Apr 2022 #24

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
1. American Citizens?
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 11:27 AM
Apr 2022

Meh….not so much.

I really ask myself at what point Puerto Ricans demand statehood - or - seek independence.

jimfields33

(15,789 posts)
30. Yes and when they turn 67 or whatever age it will be, they'll get it.
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 07:08 AM
Apr 2022

However SS disability comes from federal taxes.

Kid Berwyn

(14,897 posts)
12. Except when there's a war and a draft.
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 12:32 PM
Apr 2022
Medal of Honor for Puerto Rican Soldiers

https://www.pr51st.com/medal-of-honor-for-puerto-rican-soldiers/

Other than that, theirs is a second class back of the bus kind of citizenship.

AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
18. I served with a lot of soldiers from Puerto Rico and US territories
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 01:43 PM
Apr 2022

When I enlisted under Bush. Always felt they should be a state since they have so many in the Armed Forces and they should be able to vote.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
31. They are able to vote today.
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 08:43 AM
Apr 2022

They can vote for President, have representation in the electoral college. They also vote for governor and all local political offices.

What they don’t have is representation in the uS House or US Senate.

bluevoter4life

(787 posts)
34. They cannot vote for President
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 12:47 PM
Apr 2022

Nor do they have Electoral College representation. Nor do any of the other US territories. They can vote in a Presidential primary and can send delegates to the respective party conventions, but they cannot vote for President in the general election.

All territories do have non-voting delegates in the House of Representatives. These delegates can introduce legislation, co-sponsor legislation, and vote on bills in committee, but they cannot vote if the bill comes to the floor for a full vote.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Congress CAN deny disability benefits seems proper, unless they say Congress must deny benefits.
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 11:28 AM
Apr 2022

Point is, SC made correct decision.

Now, the question becomes why the hell would Congress deny these benefits to Puerto Ricans?

Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
5. SSI is not funded from the Social Security trust fund payroll tax
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 11:43 AM
Apr 2022

SSI is funded from other federal taxes...primarily income taxes.

This is the wilipedia post regaring federal taxation in Puerto Rico:

Not all Puerto Rican employees and corporations pay federal income taxes. Federal law requires payment of federal income tax from the following residents and corporations only: federal government employees in Puerto Rico, residents who are members of the United States military, those with income sources outside of Puerto Rico, those individuals or corporations who do business with the federal government, and those Puerto Rico-based corporations that intend to send funds to the United States.

Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
16. PR citizens pay FICA taxes
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 01:00 PM
Apr 2022

As such, they qualify for retirement, Medicare, and SSD disability assuming they have a qualifying work record.

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
13. Maybe They Should Consider Applying For Statehood
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 12:36 PM
Apr 2022

or maybe not. I'm sure tax considerations are one reason US Territories are reluctant to change their current status.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
15. Maybe they should ask Canada if they're interested.
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 12:45 PM
Apr 2022

The U.S. hasn't been treating them especially well the past few years.

2naSalit

(86,583 posts)
28. That might just be...
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 06:31 AM
Apr 2022

In their best interest. US will never let their colony go, too much military installment and unchecked polluting... can't let that go.

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
29. I'd Be Surprised If Canada Would Want Them
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 06:55 AM
Apr 2022

Seriously, it's less welcoming up there than you think. Visiting NF I was surprised to find out they force moved a lot of folks after the fishing grounds collapsed in the 80s and 90s. You could stay, but the government services were pulled out at a certain point and you were left to your own devices.

The great white north isn't as socialist as Americans think.

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
14. Whenever it's an 8-1 vote, the dissenter is always either Thomas or Sotomayor
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 12:36 PM
Apr 2022

What was her reasoning for this?

AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
17. Her parents were born in Puerto Rico
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 01:41 PM
Apr 2022

Not sure if it is the reason but it is interesting the 1 that dissented has family connections to Puerto Rico.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
20. Its a simple tax issue, rather than a racial one...
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 04:35 PM
Apr 2022

Puerto Rico residents, despite being US citizens, don't pay US tax, so don't receive US benefits.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
21. I do not like the ruling however its probably the legally correct one so Puerto Rico
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 04:44 PM
Apr 2022

has three options.
Keep things as they are, join as a state or take itself out from under the US and became a new nation.

gladium et scutum

(806 posts)
22. IMO. we should allow all
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 06:24 PM
Apr 2022

U.S. Territories to become independent nations in their own right. We as a nation should shed ourselves of the last vestiges of colonial empire.

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