After live autopsy at Portland hotel, Multnomah County will ban pay-per-view displays of human remai

[ripcord]

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Source: KGW8

Multnomah County commissioners voted unanimously Thursday to ban the public display of human remains for profit. The proposed ordinance comes after a controversial event where people paid hundreds of dollars to watch a live autopsy of a human cadaver in a hotel conference room.

The autopsy, organized by a media company called Death Science, was part of the Oddities & Curiosities Expo held in Portland in October.

According to a Facebook post advertising the Death Science class, attendees could watch a full forensic autopsy or anatomical dissection of a real human cadaver. Tickets started at $250 each, with VIP seats going for $500.

Multnomah County’s chief medicolegal death investigator, Kimberly DiLeo tried to stop the live autopsy before it happened, but police and prosecutors told DiLeo, as the law was written, there was nothing they could do.




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Wow.

[Emile]

1. Who in their right mind would pay to see that?

[JohnSJ]

7. Anyone who would pay to see that for "entertainment", has something seriously wired wrong with them.

It almost falls into the category of those who want to see a "snuff" film

Those are dangerous people in my view, and their behavior falls into the category of deviant

[catsudon]

10. when execution was public in france

it was standing room only.

i believe Saudi Arabia execution draws a crowd too. i'm sure people would paid to see that here.

[Ray Bruns]

13. I don't know about paying to see it, but I do think it was common practice in the past

Rembrandt van Rijn did a painting.

[drray23]

19. that painting is of a surgeon teaching other doctors

not a public viewing.

[snowybirdie]

2. Phew! Live Autopsy

took me aback for a minute. Though at first there was an autopsy on a live person! Anyway, still an awful thing to take place.

[Walleye]

4. Same here

[niyad]

6. Same here.

[Lucky Luciano]

12. That would be called a vivisection.

[wnylib]

3. Took a minute to realize what the

OP title was saying.

When I saw "live autopsy" I thought surely that's an oxymoron.

Then I thought, "Oh no! Not a human sacrifice of a living person!"

And finally it hit me that the autopsy performance was done before a live, paying audience.

Whew!

[Lochloosa]

5. Back in the day that was something I would have been interested in seeing.

I see nothing wrong with this.

It would be interesting to someone seeking a medical degree.

[Jetheels]

8. Maybe in an educational setting, and as part of a curriculum, rather than a hotel with vip seats

sold off like theater tickets……and also, how would you feel if a deceased loved one was being autopsied on a stage, their name revealed, for profit?

More reason not to donate your body to science.

[JohnSJ]

9. This wasn't done for science. Those who find entertainment value in this is sick and twisted.

[Jetheels]

16. Yeah, that was my point.

And who would want to stay at a hotel that does autopsies? Creepy.

[JohnSJ]

17. I know

[robbob]

11. There are at least half a dozen movies I can think of

where they show what sure looks like realistic depictions of the autopsy in progress. I can’t imagine paying 250 to see this, but I certainly don’t think it’s an early sign of abnormal psychology if someone is curious about this. Heck, there are tv shows on the science channel where you can watch a heart transplant or brain surgery.

[58Sunliner]

14. Having attended autopsies, I fail to understand the appeal.

I certainly had no "desire" to see one, but recognized the value in my training of attending them. It certainly should not be a spectator sport. Gross. I wonder if the family gave permission? I would assume they were paid and signed a waiver or someone would be getting sued.

[Mawspam2]

15. Anybody ever see an episode of Quincy?

That was on national television every week.

CSI, CSI Miami, CSI Vegas, CSI New York, and the entire NCIS family. Autopsies seem fairly popular.

Not my bag. Same with the Kardashians. Now if they were to autopsy a bunch of Kardashians... nope still wouldn't watch.

[riversedge]

18. Their reasoning reminds me of Trump/republicans--flaunt commonsence if you can get away

with it. If not an actual written law--then do it.


...........Multnomah County’s chief medicolegal death investigator, Kimberly DiLeo tried to stop the live autopsy before it happened, but police and prosecutors told DiLeo, as the law was written, there was nothing they could do.

[dalton99a]

20. This company 'Death Science' should be investigated

David Saunders

After seeing news coverage about the controversial event in Portland, a funeral director in Louisiana recognized the name of the man whose body was on display. The corpse had a wristband that read "David Saunders."

“I’m deeply hurt and frustrated that I was unable to save my husband from the violation of his remains,” said Saunders widow, Elsie. The Louisiana woman testified before the Multnomah County commission on Thursday by phone.

David Saunders was a veteran of World War II and the Korean War. After the 98-year-old died of COVID in August, his family honored Saunders’ wishes by donating his body to science. Little did they expect his corpse would end up on display in a hotel conference room, the centerpiece of a live autopsy and dissection before a paying audience.

[Ziggysmom]

22. Wonder if there was a risk to the so called audience since he died from Covid?

How horrible for this man's family to know he was butchered like that in a hotel conference room. That was not his intention when donating his body to medical science.

[flying_wahini]

21. I have seen a few and feel certain some people there will always regret it.

I have a nursing background and dated the Head of Pathology at a County hospital.

It was interesting, to say the least.

[JudyM]

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