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pstokely

(10,531 posts)
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 06:39 AM Sep 2021

Cass County residents divided over fate of sex education book

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Source: Fox 4

The book has been in the Cass County Library system for more than 25 years, however, Tuesday night many wanted that to change.

“Would your grandma or your great grandma sit down with you and say sit down I want to read you a bedtime story – would this be the book you read?” Josh Wollberg the pastor of First Baptist Church of Harrisonville said.

The author describes it as a book about changing bodies, growing up, sex, and sexual health.

“If it is obscene to teach children how to masturbate, and which objects young girls should use to masturbate with, along with images of people masturbating then this book is obscene. If this book is obscene our community has no obligation to keep this book in our children’s section,” the youth pastor of the First Baptist Church of Harrisonville said.

Read more: https://fox4kc.com/news/cass-county-residents-divided-over-fate-of-sex-education-book/

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Cass County residents divided over fate of sex education book (Original Post) pstokely Sep 2021 OP
Cass County residents should read, gab13by13 Sep 2021 #1
Oh, please . . . . AverageOldGuy Sep 2021 #2
Instead of the book, Pastor Wollberg should give demonstrations on jerking off. 3Hotdogs Sep 2021 #3
Sounds like it's his main talent. (nt) Paladin Sep 2021 #5
LOL, I heard he went out for a wank! PatrickforB Sep 2021 #6
Okay, here is what I would have a problem with PatSeg Sep 2021 #4
I looked at the link to the 'news' story and the article says the parents are PatrickforB Sep 2021 #7
Yes, moving the book sounds entirely reasonable PatSeg Sep 2021 #12
Okay, I found the book at Amazon PatSeg Sep 2021 #14
No educational textbook would be a bedtime story either IronLionZion Sep 2021 #8
His wife was probably the last one to check it out. n/t malthaussen Sep 2021 #9
I'm QUITE sure my great grandmother would never read it to her kids! 3825-87867 Sep 2021 #10
scroll the hell on by Marthe48 Sep 2021 #11
I never read my kids a sex ed book at bedtime, sarisataka Sep 2021 #13
Red Flag Lulu KC Sep 2021 #15
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Sep 2021 #16

gab13by13

(21,432 posts)
1. Cass County residents should read,
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 08:00 AM
Sep 2021

"A stranger in a strange land," now that book entangles religion and sex. Disclaimer, I still have 90 pages to go to finish the book but I can see why "god fearing people" banned this book. sarcasm.

AverageOldGuy

(1,547 posts)
2. Oh, please . . . .
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 08:19 AM
Sep 2021

. . . are we still going down that road - - banning books because kids might learn something they need to know and that they will learn on their own or from friends even if you ban the book?

3Hotdogs

(12,437 posts)
3. Instead of the book, Pastor Wollberg should give demonstrations on jerking off.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 08:24 AM
Sep 2021

On his pulpit is the biggest wanker in Cass County.

Paladin

(28,276 posts)
5. Sounds like it's his main talent. (nt)
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 09:03 AM
Sep 2021

PatrickforB

(14,593 posts)
6. LOL, I heard he went out for a wank!
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 09:31 AM
Sep 2021

I mean walk. He went out for a walk. Yes, that's it. A walk.

PatSeg

(47,629 posts)
4. Okay, here is what I would have a problem with
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 08:56 AM
Sep 2021

"It’s intended for children 10 and over but the Harrisonville Public Library has it placed in their section for children 10 and younger." I'm not sure this would be suitable for much younger children and such a decision should belong to the parents.

PatrickforB

(14,593 posts)
7. I looked at the link to the 'news' story and the article says the parents are
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 09:34 AM
Sep 2021

asking the book be moved, not banned.

You have a point - I loathe censorship with every bone in my body, but to move a book to a different section seems OK. Plus, OF COURSE, we never got to see the book in this 'news' story, or even know who the author is and what its title is. The claim is it has explicit instructions for masterbation, but we don't really know what it has in it, do we?

Might be this story is a wedge and nothing more.

PatSeg

(47,629 posts)
12. Yes, moving the book sounds entirely reasonable
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:45 AM
Sep 2021

From the description of the book's contents, it clearly sounds inappropriate for younger children. As both a mother and a grandmother, I would want the book moved. Of course, I don't see it as "obscene" as the pastor claimed, but decidedly not for younger children.

The headline appears to be click bait and I'm sure it got many hits.

PatSeg

(47,629 posts)
14. Okay, I found the book at Amazon
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:55 AM
Sep 2021

"It's Perfectly Normal: Changing Bodies, Growing Up, Sex, Gender, and Sexual Health", by Robie H. Harris.

https://www.amazon.com/Its-Perfectly-Normal-Changing-Growing/dp/1536207217/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1T43FOHSENOYT&dchild=1&keywords=it%27s+perfectly+normal+2021&qid=1632322015&s=books&sprefix=It%27s+perfe%2Caps%2C165&sr=1-1

It says for ages 10 and older, though I think it would depend on the child. Even some ten year olds might not be ready for such a book and that of course, would be up to the parent. I really cannot see any five or six year old being ready for some of the information. Of course, it appears that some grownup pastors aren't either!

IronLionZion

(45,550 posts)
8. No educational textbook would be a bedtime story either
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 09:35 AM
Sep 2021

not sure any Grandmothers are reading Physics or Math or Social Studies books to kids at bedtime. So only bedtime stories can be taught at school? It's an absurd premise.

This conservative community probably has problems with teen pregnancy and STIs that would definitely be less if students had some education on the subject.

malthaussen

(17,217 posts)
9. His wife was probably the last one to check it out. n/t
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:12 AM
Sep 2021

3825-87867

(855 posts)
10. I'm QUITE sure my great grandmother would never read it to her kids!
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:20 AM
Sep 2021

My great grandmother would dare never to show her ankles in what passed for bathing suits in her time, either.
My grandmother might have read it, but couched things a little differently.
My mother? Probably would have let me read it while she was making dinner or playing bridge in the 50s.
I, however, would read it to my great grand daughter or son with no problem. And I'd make sure she or he knew what life is all about and not just some contrived religious fantasy dreamed up to make pastors, priests, reverends, rabbis etc the wealthy hypocrites they are.

Carlin said it best. Change the fucking channel if you don't like what's on. If you don't like something, don't do it. But don't tell others they can't do it because YOU think it's bad.

Of course, I object to that piece of fiction they call the bible in children's sections (which version is the REAL one, if any?). And snowballs have a better chance existing in religion's imaginary hell than THAT tripe would be removed from almost anywhere. And I bet they don't read certain parts when they Sunday School Preach to their kids.

WWTFSM do?

Sign on the net a few years ago:

Pardon me, but your religion is NOT my law.


Marthe48

(17,044 posts)
11. scroll the hell on by
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:28 AM
Sep 2021

mr. nasty pastor. You don't have to read the book and I bet it doesn't fly off the shelf.

The 'sins of Onan' are insignificant compared to the sins of Amnon, who raped his half-sister Tamar.

sarisataka

(18,795 posts)
13. I never read my kids a sex ed book at bedtime,
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:54 AM
Sep 2021

Never read them a math text book either. My parents and grandparents never read either of those to me.

My wife and I will sometimes read each other things at bedtime that I guess could be considered sex ed

Lulu KC

(2,574 posts)
15. Red Flag
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 12:08 PM
Sep 2021

Nothing says "I prefer children" like youth pastor + sexual repression.

Omaha Steve

(99,765 posts)
16. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 12:33 PM
Sep 2021

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